Cat peeing on the floor.

I know this is a common topic. My cat, Daniel, is about 4 years old. We adopted him from a shelter a year ago. (We are his third home). He is a super nice cat, but has started peeing everywhere. Not in just one place. Took him to the vet, was told he had crystals and an infection. Given a special dry food and 10 dasy of amoxicillin/aclavunate tabs. No peeing while on meds. Shortly after the peeing started again. Back to the vet, told no crystals but still and infection. Told to keep on dry food and 14 days on orbax. No peeing while on the meds, a week after meds stopped the peeing started again, Back to the vet, still infection, given 2 more weeks of orbax and told to keep on the special dry food permanently. Now he hasn't finished the meds and the peeing on the floor is back. He still uses his litter box most of the time. I am at my wits end, tonight he peed on my hubby's comics and he said this is the last straw. Help please. Am going to go back to the vet tommorrow am, but need a miracle cure.

This cat needs a stronger medicine or a good combo of antibiotics.  Get a culture done.  This cat has associated the pain with the box and avoid it.  Also find out what the ph is running in his urine to high or low will lead to crystals for sure.  For now contain him to an easily cleaned area(bathroom)it is not his fault he is peeing other spots.
 

So are we on the right track for treatment? The dry food is Purina UR. I feed it to all my cats now, they are mostly male. Do you have a suggestion as to another antibiotic? I guess it is resistant to the orbax now. I collected a urine sample from tonights accident and will get it cultured tommorrow and will get the urine ph checked again. My house is mostly laminate, so clean up is okay, it's just when he peed on the comics. Everything else is manageable. I am also needing to go away for 5 days next week any suggestions as to what to do with him then?

I would try a wet rx diet.  I have used wet and dry Science Diet in past(c/d)

I would see vets take on best for this cat.  Maybe shots would work better along with iv fluids. You should have better idea after urine test.  I would board the cat at the vet for the trip so he gets the most detailed care available.
 

I tried the wet rx and he only eats about 1/4 of the can, that enough? Every morning, they all get their wet food. He wants to eat that food. I guess I'll have to lock him up. I've been watering down the wet to try and increase his water comsuption.

Back from the vet, still infection and crystals in the urine. Urine ph was 7. Given 14 days of amoxicillin/aclavulanate. Told he can only eat urinary food wet and dry. Bought a cat fountain. Keeping him confined to the bathroom when no one's home. He'll be going to the kennel for a week while were gone. Here's hoping we'll get this fixed this time around.

Hi
Did you run a culture? It is not done on the spot, it takes a few days do come back from the lab.... It will pinpoint the bacteria causing the problem, and that is your best bet in choosing the antibiotic.
Collecting a urine sample at home and taking to the vet is not a good way to do it - not for crystals, nor for bacteria.... The best way is collecting at the vet's office, either by expressing the bladder, or having the vet collecting it with a needle.....
Are you keeping him confined so he doesn't pee around the house? Be aware of the stress..... Can you get a feliway plug in?
Also, how are you cleaning the spots on the floor? Are you using an enzyme cleaner?
Try changing your litter to cat attract litter as well.....
Is the kitty on pain medication? You might want to consider some Buprenex for pain, that will help him out; the pain is what he relates with the litter box, causing him to avoid it.

Well, back from the trip. Picked the cat up today. He was on his antibiotics and some pain meds. He ate only med cal urinary so wet, while at the kennel. They said he didn't have any acccidents the whole week. Got him home to find a new pee spot the floor tonight. Am I on the right track with getting this fixed. I am feeding him only wet with water added, some raw meat, and whatever med cal he will eat, he really doesn't like it, tho. I am wondering if the kennel trip and coming home was stressful and aggrevated his condition. Everytime I take him to the vet, they give him more antibiotics and tell me to feed him the rx diet.Getting frusterated and feeling defeated.

Did you do a culture at the vet? How was the sample collected? In regards to my last post....
Also, how are you cleaning the spots at your home? Finally, what litter are you using?

Adding a link to this great article by our own LDG about cleaning the urine -

http://www.thecatsite.com/a/how-to-remove-cat-urine

And yes, on what Carolina said, a sample taken in sterile conditions at the vet's office should pinpoint the bacteria involved and help the vet get the right antibiotics. Stress can definitely play a role here, but since the cat obviously has a medical problem, he needs to get the all-clear on that before any behavioral modification can be attempted.

It's important that no one in your household reprimands the cat about the accidents, and to generally not stress him out.

Advice on removing cat pee in the UK is to start with a warm solution of biological (enzyme) washing power or liquid and then if it won't damage the surface to wipe over with surgical spirits.

What is the floor surface?  Laminate / wood or carpet?  It can be very hard to really clean carpet.

Also he was confined in the kennel, so if he's having problems getting to the tray fast enough that wouldn't be a problem in the kennel.  More trays maybe?

I'd try another vet. Obviously the current vet is out of ideas.

If your cat has an inflammatory condition (such as idiopathic cystitis), antibiotics are not going to do much. For instance if stress causes the urinary tract to inflame, that causes pain, which causes him anxiety, which causes him to pee on the floor.

You can start him on cosequin for cats, an arthritis supplement for cats,which has anti-inflammatory effects.

Definitely keep him on canned food only.

Often a term of anit-anxiety medication such as amitriptyline is successful. I would ask your vet about medications, or get a second opinion with a different vet and clinic.

It's wonderful you haven't given up on this boy. Obviously he doesn't do well with stress, and having 3 homes already in his short life could cause a lot of stress. I'm glad you are in it with him for the long haul.

I've been cleaning the spots with an enzymatic cleaner. All of my house is laminate or linoliem, so clean up is easy. So far we've only been testing samples from the floor. They say he has an infection because there are white blood cells in his urine. I've been giving him metacam, it was prescribed for one of my other cats. I know not the best. I'm a bad mommy. I'm going to go to the vet today to see if they can get a sample from the bladder and culture it. I use a scented litter for multiple cat households. Same litter since I got him.

Another trip to the vet. This time they collected a sample vial a needle into his bladder. Still white cells and crystals. More antibiotic/ pain meds. Says he has to be on the rx food permenantly. I'm trying to get him to eat the hill's c/d, but he's fighting it.  He only wants to eat the regular canned/ raw chicken. I have some rx dry left over and he'll eat it, but how good is that.

brillobee said:

Another trip to the vet. This time they collected a sample vial a needle into his bladder. Still white cells and crystals. More antibiotic/ pain meds. Says he has to be on the rx food permenantly. I'm trying to get him to eat the hill's c/d, but he's fighting it. He only wants to eat the regular canned/ raw chicken. I have some rx dr left over and he'll eat it, but how good is that.

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Can you feed 100% raw?

I am willing to try. I am trying to incorperate more raw into all the cats' diet now anyway. Just tell me what to do. The concept of raw kinda baffles me. I live in rural canada, so getting raw could be tough.

I think I have found a store that sells nature's valley instinct raw, is that a good one?

When a cat pees on the floor you have two problems, the first is trying to figure out the cause and fixing it. The second is eradicating the pee smell FOREVER so the kitty will not come back to that and pee on it again.

Once a cat pees out of the litter box it doesn't matter if the problem is fixed. They forget why they went there in the first place and they pee there bc it smells like pee and they think it is an ok spot to pee in.

You are working on fixing the original problem, now it is time to get some really strong odo-ban and completely saturate the pee area. Also place it off limits. Get some Ssscaat product from amazon.com http://www.petstreetmall.com/Multivet-Ssscat/7108/4627/details.html  a motion detector that emits a huge hissing noise when your kitty is in the vicinity of the pee spot. You can also use aluminum foil and/or upside down plastic carpet where the pointy side is pointed up. Or completely make the pee spot off limits- if you can close off the area, do that- anything to make him forget about it altogether. 

Also use Dr. Elsey cat attract litter to bring him back to the box. Cats will avoid the box when in pain, they associate it with the pain. Dr. Elsey's will help bring him back.

Good luck-! 

If you're able to order Wysong's Call of the Wild supplement, it makes just meat complete and balanced. That way you'd be able to just buy meat at the supermarket for him. A rotation of chicken, turkey if available, pork, maybe some beef if he likes it, or lamb or goat.... maybe rabbit is available there? This supplement makes it quite easy. I posted a link to it in your thread in the raw forum.

If he's not eating the prescription food, this is the diet most likely to help him. :heart3: It naturally acidifies the urine.

But I'm concerned that the vet still hasn't conducted a urine culture. It seems this needs to be done to figure out the right antibiotic!

Vibes for you and your boy.

brillobee said:

I am willing to try. I am trying to incorperate more raw into all the cats' diet now anyway. Just tell me what to do. The concept of raw kinda baffles me. I live in rural canada, so getting raw could be tough.

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Hi! Awesome!
Ok..... I feed raw too, and I don't feed commercial, I feed frankerprey, or prey model, and the great majority of my meats come right from the supermarket.
You can't feed all meat - that's not balanced.... You want to imitate a pray, basically. That is 80% muscle meat, 10% bones, 5% liver, and 5% other secreting organ - i.e. kidney, pancreas, brain.....
Here is what I do:
I feed a variety of muscle meats, but I do not feed bones - I supplement it with powdered eggshells for Calcium. My cats do not eat liver, so I feed them a freeze-dry liver treat a day so they get the liver amount..... and I do not feed the other organ.....
Also because the way the meat is raised (generally farmed), there is an imbalance of O6:O3 ratio in the meat - so I supplement their meat with Krill oil - some here do with fish oil..... I just puncture the soft gel cap, and put it on their meats once a day.....
And I also add Taurine once a day to be on the safe side - a LOT of people who feed chunks of meat don't - I do just to be on the safe side.

Their diets consist of chicken breast, turkey breast, pork, lamb, rabbit, venison, turkey and duck hearts.
My cat Lucky only eats three meats: Turkey and chicken breasts, and pork.
There is a lot of information here:
http://www.thecatsite.com/t/240809/raw-feeding-resource-thread
Please ask away, I think this can be great for him!