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my cat is leaking urine when he is cleaning himself

post #1 of 26
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omg! my cat is sick again and its too late to go to vets. i knew something was wrong today he doesnt seem sick however tonight he was cleaning himself and he was leaking urine anyone know what this is? this is really getting costly! i noticed a couple wet spots on the carpet yesterday and cleaned it right away. thought it was the dog. i realized it wasnt from her.
Then i thought the cat must of had an issue with me going away (change) i figured it would pass. as i went upstairs i noticed him sitting on the floor and fluid just pouring out of him!!!! never seen anything like this before in my life/ it seems he goes to the vets every few months and the price has been ranging $400-$600 each time. he is such a nice cat but i am at a standstill now!!!!!!! he was diagnoced with struvites in urine this past february. this is different this time. off to the vets i go in the am :(
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post #2 of 26
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any advice would be helpful thank you :)

Camille
 

post #3 of 26

I do not have any advice other than to get your kitty to a vet.  Perhaps a different one.  You mentioned you have made a few trips recently, maybe there is something that is being overlooked. 

 

What kind of food are you feeding you kitty  I am not an advocate of any specific diet, but this limited research may help.  It sounds like your kitty may be in a good deal of pain and a change in diet may be all that is needed:

 

 

1. Struvite crystals are also referred to as triple phosphate (magnesium ammonium phosphate), and when several crystals join together to form stones, they can become life-threatening to the cat. These stones can range in shape and size, and when they block the urinary tract, they can quickly lead to kidney failure. Immediate veterinary care is essential for diagnosis and removal.

2. Contrary to popular belief in the veterinary community, struvite crystals are not a consequence of too much magnesium in the diet.

3. Signs to watch for; very frequent litter box use, licking urethral area excessively, straining to urinate, crying in pain while urinating, urinating in various areas of the home, blood in the urine, depression, lack of appetite

4. When struvite crystals are suspected or even confirmed, a urine culture is essential, in order to identify whether a bacterial infection is present, and which anti-biotic may be most appropriate, or even whether anti-biotic treatment is necessary.

5. The incidence of struvite crystals in cats coincides exactly with the advent and widespread use of dry commercial cat foods. These diets became popular in the 1970’s, and since that time, our precious felines have been subjected to this very painful and unnecessary condition. (These ‘foods’ were not developed for the optimal health of cats, but rather for the convenience of the feline guardian, and most assuredly for the profits of the commercial pet food manufacturers.)

6. The cause of struvite crystals in cats is dry commercial pet foods. Due to the lack of moisture in the diet, the urine becomes too concentrated, and due to the use of plant-based ingredients in dry kibble, the urine becomes too alkaline. An alkaline environment in very concentrated urine predisposes struvite formation. Struvite crystals do not tend to appear in a more acidic environment and where the urine is more dilute. The cat is not a natural water drinker, as it has evolved over millions of years, in a very arid part of the planet, and derived most of its moisture from its prey. Consequently, the domestic cat which is fed a diet of dry foods is chronically dehydrated.

7. Acidifying the diet with veterinary prescription diets does not work, and most cats resist these unappetizing foods. There has been little or no progress in the treatment of struvite crystals in the traditional veterinary community.

8. The best line of defense is prevention. When the cat consumes a balanced, natural diet of raw meat, the urine can maintain a more natural pH. The water content of the food (typically 75 – 80% moisture) creates a more dilute urine, and struvite formation, does not occur.


Edited by tjcarst - 6/13/12 at 10:34pm
post #4 of 26
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My Cd at eats Hilld (rx) Canned food. i was prescribed this back in february. sometimes i will give him the friskies special diet with low magnesium. he does have access to my other cats food and this is Blue buffalo (dry) however its rare that he nibbles on this. i am having a cup of joe, shower and bringing him to vets. he seems happy this am however. i am still bringing him as i believe he has a uti. i know the symptoms of the struvite as this happened many times this past few months. he yowl and hisses when trying to go. this time urine is pouring out and he will go in litter box and also pee/poo on the rug. its so strange to see this. well i have samples to bring today on a good note

thanks,

camille

post #5 of 26

Any update?

post #6 of 26

TJ, how can you say you are not advocating any certain diet, then explain why cats should eat raw food? That looks like advocating raw food.

 

If it is all about the water, why not just feed canned commercial food with a bladder-friendly formulation?

post #7 of 26

Sorry, that wasn't me explaining.  That was copied and pasted from another site after searching on struvite crystals.  Should have put it in quotes.  Any time I post a link to another site, the post gets edited or deleted.  I was merely concerned the cat might be in pain, diet might be a factor.

 

I, myself, do not feed a raw diet, either.  Still learning the dry cat food, full of filler/grains, was bad for my last kitty.

post #8 of 26
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Avery went to the vets this am the Doc took some urine and tested it and i should be called in the am with the results. he told me to keep feeding him the rx food and he also gave him an injection for inflammation. he will prescribe antibiotics if need be.i asked about raw foods and apple cider vinegar and my vet said NO 1 step at a time and hopefully my cat doesnt have anything serious. next step may be an ultrasound to see if he has anything unusual inside wish him luck. he is the most sweetest  and loving pet in our home. i inserted 2 small videos    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRh9xzAI8FM

thank you,

camille    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw6_ZPCJqjI

post #9 of 26
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Originally Posted by tjcarst View Post

Sorry, that wasn't me explaining.  That was copied and pasted from another site after searching on struvite crystals.  Should have put it in quotes.  Any time I post a link to another site, the post gets edited or deleted.  I was merely concerned the cat might be in pain, diet might be a factor.

 

I, myself, do not feed a raw diet, either.  Still learning the dry cat food, full of filler/grains, was bad for my last kitty.

Yeah, a gray box certainly would have helped. You should ask a moderator why posting links is a problem when others can post their links.

 

Unfortunately, Emily would not even sniff anything except dry food. She also was extremely picky about water - a fountain would have been a good thing for her if only I had an outlet to plug it into. So I know firsthand there are some cats who simply can't be forced to drink more water, eat canned food, or (for those who like doing this) switch to raw food. For these cats, you can't be guilty of feeding them junk food all the time.

post #10 of 26
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Yeah, a gray box certainly would have helped. You should ask a moderator why posting links is a problem when others can post their links.

 

Unfortunately, Emily would not even sniff anything except dry food. She also was extremely picky about water - a fountain would have been a good thing for her if only I had an outlet to plug it into. So I know firsthand there are some cats who simply can't be forced to drink more water, eat canned food, or (for those who like doing this) switch to raw food. For these cats, you can't be guilty of feeding them junk food all the time.

I do blame myself.  Lost my sweet girl 4/6/11 and still can't come to terms with her loss. Someday maybe I will introduce myself and share her life.  Still too soon.

 

I am very thankful for this site, allowing cat owners to come together to share knowledge and help each other.

post #11 of 26
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Avery went to the vets this am the Doc took some urine and tested it and i should be called in the am with the results. he told me to keep feeding him the rx food and he also gave him an injection for inflammation. he will prescribe antibiotics if need be.i asked about raw foods and apple cider vinegar and my vet said NO 1 step at a time and hopefully my cat doesnt have anything serious. next step may be an ultrasound to see if he has anything unusual inside wish him luck. he is the most sweetest  and loving pet in our home. i inserted 2 small videos    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRh9xzAI8FM

thank you,

camille    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw6_ZPCJqjI


Any update on Avery?

post #12 of 26
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I do blame myself.  Lost my sweet girl 4/6/11 and still can't come to terms with her loss. Someday maybe I will introduce myself and share her life.  Still too soon.

 

I am very thankful for this site, allowing cat owners to come together to share knowledge and help each other.


what does this have to do with the original post? just curious :)

post #13 of 26

 

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what does this have to do with the original post? just curious :)

 

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Originally Posted by EmilyMayWilcha View Post

Unfortunately, Emily would not even sniff anything except dry food. She also was extremely picky about water - a fountain would have been a good thing for her if only I had an outlet to plug it into. So I know firsthand there are some cats who simply can't be forced to drink more water, eat canned food, or (for those who like doing this) switch to raw food. For these cats, you can't be guilty of feeding them junk food all the time.

 

Nothing at all.  Just replying to Emily regarding the poor quality cat food I was feeding my cat not realizing the long term effects.  Wish I would have found this site earlier.

 

If you'd rather I take it offline, via PM, not a big deal.  I've tried to do this but am limited to 5 PMs a day so this does not always work.  I would like to try and help others if they are going down the same path unknowingly.  One of the first reasons I replied to your post, hoping it was not related to food.

post #14 of 26
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Originally Posted by tjcarst View Post

 

Nothing at all.  Just replying to Emily regarding the poor quality cat food I was feeding my cat not realizing the long term effects.  Wish I would have found this site earlier.

 

If you'd rather I take it offline, via PM, not a big deal.  I've tried to do this but am limited to 5 PMs a day so this does not always work.  I would like to try and help others if they are going down the same path unknowingly.  One of the first reasons I replied to your post, hoping it was not related to food.


its fine. I was curious as i didnt see the other thread until now:) have a great night i am sorry i am new to site and didnt see it

Camille

post #15 of 26
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"  One of the first reasons I replied to your post, hoping it was not related to food."
 
 

my cat has a food issue can only eat rx wet food and he is so fussy. i have to put it away once he is done as well as keep the dry food hidden and feed our other cat separately. the vet told me today do not leave the dry food out. so now i have to take out both to feed them  separately. i hope this works. avery does have crystals again and if  this Regimen  doesnt work ii have run out of ideas as to what to do.

Camille

post #16 of 26
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its fine. I was curious as i didnt see the other thread until now:) have a great night i am sorry i am new to site and didnt see it

Camille

 

No worries.  ;-)  I am fairly new to site as well.  Some forums do not like 'hijacking'' threads.  I was not intentionally doing so, but that is sort of what it is when it is off topic from original post.  Makes it harder for others to follow.  I am not a very public person, and prefer to direct most things via PMs, but cannot do so when limited to PMs.

 

My cat was very picky too, eating only the original poor quality dry food I fed her.  I never really tried to get her to switch if she turned up her nose at a new better quality food.  At least Avery is eating the rx canned food for you.  That is definitely good.

 

So, how is Avery?   I really am concerned and hope that he is okay.

post #17 of 26

I hope no news is good news on Avery?

post #18 of 26

My cat looks just like yours.  He urinated just like your picture this morning and while he was eating.  How is your cat.  Did you find out how  to fix the kitty?chescat.gif

post #19 of 26
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My cat looks just like yours.  He urinated just like your picture this morning and while he was eating.  How is your cat.  Did you find out how  to fix the kitty?chescat.gif

Hi and welcome to the Cat Site! wavey.gif This thread is almost a year old and it is unlikely the original poster will be back to answer your question. Why don't you start a thread of your own, asking for advice? smile.gif
post #20 of 26

Thank You.  My cat is better.  acv and raw chicken did the trick

post #21 of 26

My cat has been doing this also. I've spent over $1000 to find out why this is happening. Nothing, no stones, no tumors etc. Now they aren't even calling to see how he is, nor are they returning my phone calls. I know you posted this back in August but I'm hoping to still check it. What's ACV? and who recommended a raw chicken diet? just wondering, nothing seems to be working and it's breaking my heart to keep him separated from the rest of the pride.

post #22 of 26

Hi Marie,

 

where you able to ever get an answer as to why that was happening to your kitty?

post #23 of 26

Leaking urine, take him to a vet ASAP!! His life

post #24 of 26
Catdaddy 2014, I did take him to vet, $2000 later still urinating when he grooms himself, no answers, they don't know y he can't urinate normally. And don't have money to take him to another vet frown.gif although I've spoken to many and they r stumped too
post #25 of 26

Ok 2k vet bill, got it.

Does he seem to be in any pain at any time when he's urinating or licking himself?

 

Also, what kind of cat food are you feeding him? Dry food can be bad for males and can cause them to have urinary issues. Also how old is he?

post #26 of 26
I always feed dry but now he gets both. He was also on anti spastic bladder and urethrea medication and CD can for months, no improvement. He's a 12 year old Manx. He does use liter box but isn't able to completely empty bladder. Every once in a while he seems like he's experiencing discomfort. And sure enough a lil bit later I find a spot where he had an accident. When he grooms his belly the urine just flows out. Thanks for your concern
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