could this be it?

mommylette214 · Jun 22, 2012

Eponaboo said:
Thats what i thought about kitty then at the last minute she goes and has them under my bed >_<

lol yea thats how it normally goes if she does somethin like that hopefully its under the couch

eponaboo · Jun 23, 2012

If i get a chance later ill post Dotties first wobbly steps that i took a video of last night

Daily weigh in ...

Salem 263g +13

Ginger 271g +11

Dottie 259g + 14

Patch 287g +12

orientalslave · Jun 23, 2012

I love seeing people posting weights, was feeling that if the age in days (or weeks and days) was there the information would be even more useful. What would be the most use of all is to collate them all into a scatter graph using Excel. Will have a think about how to do that one.

OK, had a go typing in weights above and this is what it looks like:

Now I need to think of how people can email me their data in a way that makes it easy for me to add to my spreadsheet - the more the better.

What you can see above is how linear the growth curve is.

eponaboo · Jun 23, 2012

Its interesting to see it drawn up that way!

I have a question about socializing the kittens. Already Dottie, salem and ginger are ok with being held (occasional mew) but Patch kinda mew/screams loudly for his mum which puts mum on edge to. They are um 11 days i think now so my question is should i wait longer to socialize patch or keep trying?

Here are Dotties first steps as promised

rafm · Jun 23, 2012

Keep handling patch, if you stop, it will become more difficult to handle him instead of easier. Some kitties are more sensitive than others about it. Our Claire, for instance, wasn't handled much in her first 7 weeks and now, at 4 years of age, we still can't handle her very well. She screams and carries on like we're killing her if we pick her up. Her brother and sister did just fine with learning to be handled.

clynn11 · Jun 23, 2012

With kittens that you've been around since birth- it's not really 'socialization' because they have been around your touch, scent, voice their entire lives (in comparison to socializing 3 - 4+ week old feral kittens who have had no human contact). Sounds like Patch is very vocal... or the mommas boy. If you are putting him down immediately every time he mews, it's likely he'll realize this and continue to scream. Try talking to him in a soothing voice while gently petting him while holding. Try holding him with another sibling touching him at the same time, or bundling him up so he feels warm and safe while holding him. You could also attempt to hold him after he's done nursing or falling into sleep which might make him a little calmer. Stay on a low level with momma and always have him visible to her so she is not as stressed- talk calmly to momma as well and let her know you're not hurting her baby. Pet momma while you're holding him to ease some tension. With every newborn litter i've had, I held every day- usually multiple times a day, and had no problems with momma or babies. You might just have a VERY loud kitty, which will only get MORE fun as he gets older

lol

mommylette214 · Jun 23, 2012

that is so cute are u keepin all the kittens are givin them away?

catspaw66 · Jun 23, 2012

lindz2785 said:
I would say all boys except for #2! That one looks female to me.

I agree that all except #2 are males, it looks to me.

eponaboo · Jun 23, 2012

mommylette214 said:
that is so cute are u keepin all the kittens are givin them away?

Ginger is supposed to be going to my daughters friend, their dad possibly has cat allergies though so it depends if he has.

Another friend is having Dottie we think.

We are keeping Salem.

No home for patch as yet.

We did have homes for all but people always say they want one then muck you about changing their minds which is kinda annoying. Until i see the babies off to their new homes nothing is set in stone i guess :/

RAFM said:
Keep handling patch, if you stop, it will become more difficult to handle him instead of easier. Some kitties are more sensitive than others about it. Our Claire, for instance, wasn't handled much in her first 7 weeks and now, at 4 years of age, we still can't handle her very well. She screams and carries on like we're killing her if we pick her up. Her brother and sister did just fine with learning to be handled.

Thanks ill keep at it

clynn11 said:
With kittens that you've been around since birth- it's not really 'socialization' because they have been around your touch, scent, voice their entire lives (in comparison to socializing 3 - 4+ week old feral kittens who have had no human contact). Sounds like Patch is very vocal... or the mommas boy. If you are putting him down immediately every time he mews, it's likely he'll realize this and continue to scream. Try talking to him in a soothing voice while gently petting him while holding. Try holding him with another sibling touching him at the same time, or bundling him up so he feels warm and safe while holding him. You could also attempt to hold him after he's done nursing or falling into sleep which might make him a little calmer. Stay on a low level with momma and always have him visible to her so she is not as stressed- talk calmly to momma as well and let her know you're not hurting her baby. Pet momma while you're holding him to ease some tension. With every newborn litter i've had, I held every day- usually multiple times a day, and had no problems with momma or babies. You might just have a VERY loud kitty, which will only get MORE fun as he gets older

lol

He is a complete mummys boy, when he does get bk with her he snuggles around her neck lol! I don't put him down when he screams I try to keep it to around 5 minutes for him atm. I also hold him at mums level so she can see him, and i try to pet her to reasure her which isnt that easy as he is SO wriggly lol. Never thought about holding him with a sibling so i might try and hold him with Dottie as she is the most laid back of them all lol! I did try when he was fed and sleepy though it seems to make no difference, its like he has mum radar and knows the minute he is more than 5 inches from her lol!

eponaboo · Jun 24, 2012

Daily weigh in ....

Salem 276g +13

Ginger 284g +13

Dottie 277g +18

Patch 302g +15

Had lots of cuddles with the kittens today, Salem actually slept against me for couple of hours until he woke hungry lol! Patch still screams when held although he did quieten down for a few seconds i guess thats some progress lol!

eponaboo · Jun 25, 2012

Bit of a breakthrough with Patch, he likes to be swaddled like a human baby when your holding him and he doesnt make half as much noise

Daily weigh in....

salem 294g +18
Ginger 302g +18g
Dottie 300g +23g
patch 324g +23

Babies had a piggy day it seems lol!

eponaboo · Jun 26, 2012

The kittens got a lovely new fleecy blacket today, I only ordered it yesterday so i was suprised it came so soon lol!

Daily weigh in....

Salem 315g +21g

Ginger 316g +14g

Dottie 313g +13g

Patch 338g +13g

mommylette214 · Jun 26, 2012

nice my cat had 4 kittens already

eponaboo · Jun 27, 2012

Today I heard loud mewing and went to look thinking kitty had sat on a baby. What i actually found was Patch and Salem play fighting it was SOOO cute lol. I did take some video of them all today so ill hash together a vid sometime tommorow when i have some free time

Daily weigh in......

Salem 323g +8
Ginger 329 +13
Dottie 336g +23
Patch 356g +18

Anyone remember they used to have this game in the newspaper called spot the ball? Well for those that dont.. basically they would post a pic of a football game and photoshop out the football and you had to mark a little x marks the spot where u thought it was. Anyway getting to my point hehe, the bed I bought for kitty is a dalmation print igloo. We put the kittens and kitty in there to see how she liked it lol. Well we laughed so hard when we saw the two black and white ones in there, its like spot the kitten hehe!

Here's a pic of Kitty with kittens in her new bed (its actually a place for her to chill when she wants a break from the babies and for when they go to their new homes it will be her new bed)!

oreocookie · Jun 27, 2012

OMG, that is just too cute!!!!!!!! What cool pattern they have!

eponaboo · Jun 28, 2012

oreocookie said:
OMG, that is just too cute!!!!!!!! What cool pattern they have!

yeah it was only like £12 on amazon, bargain!!

Daily weigh in...

Salem 339g +16
Ginger 345g +16
Dottie 352g +16
Patch 373g +17

orientalslave · Jun 28, 2012

Nice bed!

When I last saw 'spot the ball' is was airbrushed out as it was pre-digital photography!

eponaboo · Jun 28, 2012

OrientalSlave said:
Nice bed!

When I last saw 'spot the ball' is was airbrushed out as it was pre-digital photography!

LMAO yeah airbrushed that was the word i was looking for, it ended up being put as photoshopped because i couldnt remember the correct words at the time, in my defence it was late last night when i edited it (my excuse and im sticking to it) hehe!

eponaboo · Jun 28, 2012

Vid as promised

eponaboo · Jun 29, 2012

Hmm weight gain not so great today, guess we will see how it goes tommorow.

salem 354g +15
Ginger 353g +8
Dottie 362g +10
Patch 380g +7

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