How do I tell the breed of my cat?

dani elliott

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I got a kitten for me and my kids. we don't know what breed she is or how old  ?

can u please help! Im  new to this whole kitten thing  
 

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Unless you got the kitten from a registered breeder then it's a domestic or moggie.  Looks 2-3 months old, but it's hard to tell from photos.  Where did he come from that they didn't even tell you his age?
 
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Sweet looking kitten, but no particular breed.  Strongly suggest she should have a vet check, vaccinations and worming plus a check for fleas.  Also ask when she should be neutered.
 

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Is the kitten shy? she seems to be hiding somewhere, although also comfortable in her hideout.
 
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no she not shy just like to sleep under the chair 

we got her from wal-mart an old man gave her to my kids

realy good kitten loves kids and dogs

cry's  a lot
 

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Eee! She's a cutie!

Most cats are not a breed or even a mix of a breed. Cats are cats :D. You can call her a domestic longhair or a moggie (although "moggie" is a rare term in the U.S. so don't expect anyone to know what you're talking about! :tongue2:).

I'd say she's about 2 1/2-3 months old. She should go to the vet for her shots and de-worming very soon. While you're there, make an appointment to have her spayed--cats can go into heat as young as 4 months. Enjoy your new kitty!
 

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She's a real cutie, it might become clearer if she is a pedigree when she's a bit older.
No,, without papers nor good proofs it can never be a pedigree.  What he can be is possibly more or less a look alike....

With cats it is not the looks, but the ancestry which is most important.  And the "papers" is the pedigree certificate, and thus being written up in the appropriate registry.   Although being pedigree, it is important to have suitable looks, otherwise you count as pet quality, and are not used in Shows nor normally not used in breeding either.

Although, a stunning look alike exemplar, apparently being an excellent addition to said breed, may be sometimes accepted by two show judges as "novice" in said breed.

This cat counts as purebred but gets a provisorical pedigree document, and in four generations its children must be deemed at shows, and get their at least the grade excellent, to renew their pedigree... Firstly the fifth excellent generation gets a fully normal pedigree-certificate...

So you see, it is no fancy - "oh this moggy is a pedigree cat".  A pedigree, a pure bred, is a hard won thing.  It is MUCH easier to get US citizenship for an illegally immigrated mexican, than get a pedigree paper for a moggie.  Even if said moggie is somewhat a look alike.   :)    (Although it does happen at least once a century  :)   )

That salvo said, this new picture IS much better then the first, and little Jynx although domestic  is perhaps a little alike either a Maine coon, or possibly - a Siberian.

Maine coon are of two common types; one the wild-look variation, and one - the sweet-look variation, right?

Jynx is maybe a little alike this sweet variation.   Or what do you think?

Nice to fancy about!    :)
 
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Thank you I think that she is a Maine coon, too  yes going to see the vet soon 

thank u all ! She a sweet heart. How do I put weight on her she really thin
  • Been giving her kitten formula with kibble
little wet food too once a day .  whats the best for her
 

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....going to see the vet soon ...
She a sweet heart. How do I put weight on her she really thin
  • Been giving her kitten formula with kibble
little wet food too once a day .  whats the best for her
Please do start a new tread on your kitten in the Preg and Kitten care...   :)

With this question and all similiar "how to care about my kitten"

But a short answer to your question your food looks OK.   Wet food as such is usually good, so keep on with it, and even increase.
 

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Although, a stunning look alike exemplar, apparently being an excellent addition to said breed, may be sometimes accepted by two show judges as "novice" in said breed.

This cat counts as purebred but gets a provisorical pedigree document, and in four generations its children must be deemed at shows, and get their at least the grade excellent, to renew their pedigree... Firstly the fifth excellent generation gets a fully normal pedigree-certificate...
Not in the GCCF in the UK.  Domestic shorthair are an acceptable outcross for a tiny number of breeds, but that's as far as it goes.  The outcross cats do not get a provisional pedigree, nor can they be shown.  I'm not even sure how many generations are required for the offspring to be on the full register, and have a feeling it might vary by breed.

Way back in the 70s domestic cats that looked like British Shorthairs were taken into the register, but that is way back...

Of course it might be different with different countries, registries and breeds.
 

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Of course it might be different with different countries, registries and breeds.
My described procedure is what is in the big european association FIFE where Im fostered.  I suppose some Indenpendent Clubs also use something similiar.

As you say, it may vary with associations (registries) and breeds.  Many breeds are nowadays closed for novices, even in associations who theoretically do use this novice - cathegory.

Outcrosses with nice looking moggies you mention may be another way in, but that is a different story, I think.

I did wrote up this about novices as it is a very good pedagogical example of the long and difficult way to become a pedigree cat, even for a really nice look alike.   Even that first novice, the ANCESTOR to be, must be accepted and admitted by two experienced show judges, specialists on that breed. 

Thus, these somewhat perhaps look alikes are look alikes.
 

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According to the National Geographic's world-wide research, all domostic cats are genetically the Little African Wildcat, a cat that was native to Egypt, among other places.  All our current breeds are developed from that species, usually from spontaneous mutations.

Your kitten looks like he has a real personality. 

There is lots of information here about care, feeding, health, etc., and we're more than willing to answer any questions you might possibly have.
 
 

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Found what StefanZ is refering to - see paragraph 9.2:

http://www1.fifeweb.org/dnld/rules/br_reg_en.zip

But 'novice cats' are not allowed for a great many breeds (or have restrictions on their origins) and even where they are I suspect very, very few would actually get past the judging panel - at least two International judges and must be judged 'Excellent' by both or all.  The cat is only allowed one shot at this as well. 

I would like to know how many 'novice cats' actually made the grade in recent years, other than for new breeds or imports from geographical areas, for example Korats from Thailand.  My feeling is the answer is 'amost none'.  Certainly none in the Felis Britanica (UK FiFe Member) results for 2010, 2009 and part of 2008.

These days where a breed has colour and/or pattern and/or coat length restrictions (for example chocolate / lilac  / cinammon / fawn / pointed are not allowed in Norway Forest Cats) it would be in my view reckless to take a 'novice cat' in without genetically testing it first to make sure it doesn't carry any of these.  If it does they will, eventually, surface.
 

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I kinda don't think old guys are handing out pedigreed purebred kittens in the Wal-Mart parking lot :lol3: :tongue2:.

She does look to be of the Maine Coon type (they were developed from large shaggy-haired farm cats) but it really can't be said that she IS a Maine Coon, since that would mean that she has pedigree papers.
 

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I would like to know how many 'novice cats' actually made the grade in recent years, other than for new breeds or imports from geographical areas, for example Korats from Thailand.  My feeling is the answer is 'amost none'.  Certainly none in the Felis Britanica (UK FiFe Member) results for 2010, 2009 and part of 2008.

These days where a breed has colour and/or pattern and/or coat length restrictions (for example chocolate / lilac  / cinammon / fawn / pointed are not allowed in Norway Forest Cats) it would be in my view reckless to take a 'novice cat' in without genetically testing it first to make sure it doesn't carry any of these.  If it does they will, eventually, surface.
I think StefanZ brings this up every now and then because in Sweden it's still possible and probably not that uncommon either to bring novices to breeds. I checked our local cat associations (FIFé) rules and in Finland you can bring new cats (with Finnish heritage) to European Shorthair, Manx and Cymric. Earlier also Norwegian Forest Cat, Siberian and Russian Blue were on that list too but now they have closed the breeds or restricted them to smaller areas (i.e. Siberians only from old Soviet Union countries are accepted etc.).

Kuura's breeder breeds (or used to breed) also Europeans and Manx/Cymric. She has a registered novice Manx. I also have met few novice Europeans.

I'd say novices a brought to shows several times each year. They have just added new rule about them this year to make it easier because the amount of "wannabe" Europeans is quite high (and of course not all of them make it into the breed).

Completely OT now but I find it a bit odd that Norwegians have the amber color.. Where did it come from? They have also added a new test for NFO this year, every breeding cat has to be now tested genetically for GSD IV which is a mutation only found from Norwegians.
 
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I just want to know what breed she looked like and not if she was a pedigree 

she not going to be in any shows she just are house cat and my kids was wondering what she looked like ?

 
 

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And that was answered, no breed "just" a domestic as the majority of cats are
 
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