I belive Masquerade to have worms now...

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When she first came into our home, my kitten, whom i've named Masquerade, had a terrible flea infestation. Much to her disliking i had to wash her off every other night and do whatever i could to get rid of the fleas. The vet said she was too young for a flea bath and is still too young for any worm medication, so i am at a loss of what to do, her belly is bloated incredibly, she looks almost pregnant but she is only 7 weeks old, however, she retains the hyper playfulness and has a healthy appetite. other, than bad gas, and the bloated belly, she seemed fine. i'm uncertain whether i should wait it out and see if it goes down when she gets older or if i should tackle any issue now, my family is tight on funds at the moment as well, so waiting unless she exhibits signs of pain or lack of energy or anything like that seem to be my only options...
 

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If she had fleas, she is definitely going to have tapeworms.  She might even have round worms and parasites.  I'd talk to the vet again, or seek a second opinion.  I'm sorry I can't help more, but hopefully someone with more knowledge will come along who can help.

As for getting rid of the fleas, you can dip a flea comb in some Dawn (the blue kind) water and comb the kitty.  That will kill the fleas.
 
 

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I agree that de-wormers can be toxic for very small kittens. I lost a kitten that way and it was horrible and heartbreaking. If your kitten has a healthy appetite and seems otherwise fine, you can and should wait until the kitten is old enough before doing any treatment. If you have adult healthy cats around however, you need to keep your kitten separate. 

It sounds as if she has roundworms, especially with a bloated belly and gas. It is possible that she can have tapeworms too, especially with fleas. Tapeworms look like white rice. Roundworms are more common and look like curly spaghetti.

With roundworms, they can be dormant inside a cat, until the cat is pregnant and then they become active again. This is how kittens get them. 

You will need to wait until your kitten is older before doing anything. I highly recommend using an experienced vet and following their advice since kittens can die so easily from medicines.  Here is a link that talks about kitten worms. 

http://www.all-about-cute-kittens.com/kitten-worms.html

Here is a link about roundworms in general

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_roundworms_in_cats___kittens.html
 
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Thank you Very much for the input it is well appriciated. She doesnt mind water too much so we soaked her down in warm water, and combed her out. the fleas have gone down dramatically, now there are only a few, i'm going to try and keep on top of it. She is still very bloated, but at least its not slowing her down. i'm hoping i will luck out and wont have to use any kind of medication on her....
 
 

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I should have said that flea control is also about the environment.  Fleas lay eggs - lots of them - which fall off into wherever the cat happens to be.  Those eggs hatch into larvae which pupate and then emerge and jump on cats (or people) to feed.

So, potentially anywhere she has been has eggs and larvae.  Her bedding is easy - change often and wash hot (60C) or discard.  But the carpets need vaccing and treating.

This URL is from the UK but the advice is good and I imagine you can get the products or equivalents in the US.  Don't be tempted by cheap products in the supermarket or pet shops - they are ineffective and sometimes dangerous, in both the US and the UK.

http://www.fabcats.org/owners/fleas/info.html
 

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You will probably have to use a medication for the worms, but I just think you should wait until she is a bit more healthy and a little bit older and larger. The worms are not as dangerous as the medicines can be. 

Here is what the link I gave you says about medicating kittens. If it were me, I would wait a bit longer before giving any meds to my kitten. Seven weeks is SO young and kittens die very easily.: 

"Heartworms, roundworms, and hookworms are all responsive to Pyrantel Pamoate (oral) and Selamectin (topical). Pyrantel Pamoate is known to be one of the safest anti-parasitic medications for use in kittens. Selamectin is safe as well. However, it is not recommended for use in kittens under 8 weeks of age.

Praziquantel (oral) appears to be quite effective in reducing tapeworm infestations in both kittens and cats."
 

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"MILBEMAX Film-coated tablets for small cats and kittens: a tablet containing 4 mg milbemycin oxime and 10 mg praziquantel."

Doesn't appear to contain the ingredient contra-indicated in kittens under 8 weeks, plus growing and putting condition on when the kitten is carrying a burden of worms is hard.  A bloated belly is typical of a kitten with lots of worms.
 
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i will look into them when i have a chance, the size of her belly has me concerned, but as i mentioned, her behavior hasnt changed. she is just as playful and eats a healthy amount.

if these medications are safe for her to take so young i will definately give them a shot. i dont want to wait if it could cause her other serious problems. The fleas were heartbreaking enough when we rinsed her off and saw the blood running down her face, she is clearly much more comfortable now. i only want to do what is best for her happiness and health.
 

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Eee! My vet says I can use Strongid (pyrantel pamoate) in kittens as young as 3-4 weeks old if it's needed (says the worms can kill babies and they need to be gotten rid of quick). Is the 8-week thing on the label (oops, re-read that and it looks like it's selamectin that can't be used for babies? That makes more sense)? Well, it's always worked for me and never hurt any of them. But if the vet is saying she's not big/strong enough, I guess I'd go with that.

As far as I know, Strongid is the standard product for de-worming small animals in the U.S. I don't think we have a milbemycin product here (ETA: there was one, under the brand name Interceptor, but it's currently out of production. And I think it was sold only for dogs). So probably that's what the vet will give you. That or Drontal.
 
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alright, i have a further issue now, unfortunaltey i cant get to a vet right now, hopefully soon however...

she now has a case of the runs, more or less. and is contstantly leaving scat around the house, i'm not sure if its from the worms or not...

Should i be worried? Or is this normal? I plan to get her medication as soon as possible, her belly has become even more bloated. The second we have the funds to treat her it will be done. I, as stated before, have never had an animal that had worms or fleas or anything of the such... So i dont really know what to expect.
 

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You should be worried and she needs to be de-wormed and treated for the diarrhea.  Diarrhea can lead to dehydration quickly in kittens.
 
 
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She eats, nine lives and meow mix hard food kitten chows, and we bathe her in some kitten shampoo i dont remember the name of. 

We have only had her about a week, so we havnt had time to get everything we would need for this sort of thing, nor did we expect it.
 

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Yes, worms can lead to the runs, and the runs can lead to dehydration.  You can check for that by lifting her scruff - it should snap back down again.  If it stands up a bit she is dehydrated.  However, she needs to see a vet as soon as you can manage.  Today would be ideal, tomorrow OK.  Kittens go downhill very, very quickly. 

If there is any sign of dehydration spoon some oral rehydration fluid into her.  There are plenty of recipies on the Internet for how to make this.  I would try to give a couple of teaspoons of it and see how she goes.  If there are still signs an hour later, another couple of teaspoons ful.

Also, have you changed what she was eating?  Doing that suddenly can also produce the runs.  If you know what she was eating or can find out, go back to it at least for now.

Also cats and kittens are masters of hiding when they are ill, so by the time they are clearly ill, it's not the early stages.

I am, however, a bit mystified as to why you got a kitten when you are tight on funds.
 
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I keep a close eye on her, and she doesnt seem dehydrated yet, that was a big concer, but we are getting her medication tonight, at this point i have no choice.

She has had several visits to the vet. the first we were told she didnt have worms (this was after we had gotten rid of the first wave of fleas),

the second, he told us she had them, but was to small to do anything about it and would be fine to wait a few more weeks.

Now, i cant afford to bring her in a third time,

The reasons we took her in is because the house she was staying at didnt want her, she was flea infested and wasnt being cared for at all. It took me less than 24 hours to get rid of the majority of the fleas she had at the time, she was at that house for over 2 weeks. At the time we had more than enough funds to care for her. But life hit, of course, and i cant even afford to get myself to the hospital right now. She, however, has taken priority. We have an emergency savings we are going to use for this.

The other reason is because of my person issues with stress disorders, since i developed them i have always had a cat  and it helped me dramatically. also, being my husband is military, and often gone away, i am left alone often and the company of a feline is well appreciated.

the vet has been little to no help thus far, in fact all of his recommendations have only led to trouble. I have been following my sister's advice for the most part, and advice from those here. I know he knows what is BEST for her, but to me its the same as at the doctors office, even though what they say is the healthiest way, it might not be the more effective. Being it is my first experiance with any animal with such a bad case of worms or fleas, especially so young, i am looking for the advice of those with experance, family and stranger, when my vet has twice failed to be of any help. and is, unfortunately, the only one nearby.
 
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I just got a third appointment with another vet at 3 today, Theyve already told me they have a de-wormer that will work on her.
 
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Okay,

Got her dewormed for 6 bucks with Drontal at the vets office (which was going to cost 50 at another)  Changed her litter out for fresh and cleaned her litter box and the floor around it.

She has a 2nd de-worming in 2 weeks, and a rabies shot =) and every 3 months she has a checkup. so finally she is good to go, with a vet that actually cares about the animals and peoples wallets.
 

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A rabies shot so young? I thought they weren't supposed to get a rabies shot until 12-16 weeks old. She does need a panleukopenia combo shot at that age, though. Good for you that you found a nicer vet!
 
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I'm so glad too, i dont know what we would have done if we hadnt found them

and apparently she is 9 or 10 weeks old, the people we got her from said she was 7 a week ago...but also told us she was a male.... wich i could see right away....its a girl.
 
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