Pregnant Feral - What to do? All advice and wisdom welcome!

goddess_althena

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Hi there (again!)

I posted last year regarding the feral cats in my area hoping for advice. I got lots and am very thankful to everyone who helped out. Thing is, it was a very busy autumn, and I went from a 2 cat household to a very full 9. Many feel I'm crazy (including myself some days), but surprisingly (maybe not so surprising to some on this forum) it works.

Very brief history: There were 3 ferals that I saw regularly and was feeding, who must have lived on my neighbour's farm-ish property. I made arrangements to have 2 TNR'ed (a young adult male and a female kitten). We had them neutered/spayed and brought them into the household. We had 2 already, so with these 2 it made 4. The third feral cat was unfortunately pregnant (with her second litter of the year) and had given birth before the appointment date. At the time I felt it was not an option to have her done with an unknown litter somewhere out there (hindsight has me thinking otherwise now). All kittens (5 total) were trapped by my neighbour and we offered to foster them while my neighbour found homes as they had a very small house and no rooms with closing doors except the bathroom (I know, sounds weird). Anyhow, long story short, no homes were ever found for the kittens and 4 cats became 9 cats. They are now past the six-month mark, I've had them all spayed/neutered and feel as though I am over the "crazy-stress" hump. It works, they get along and they're all well taken care of, but my household is definitely at its LIMIT.

Enter current situation:

Third feral cat (we call her Scruffles) is still outside and needs to be spayed. When all this was going on last year my neighbour agreed to take responsibility for getting her spayed this spring. I live in Manitoba, Canada and our TNR program only runs from spring to fall as we have very harsh winters. No local vets will take ferals in, so our nearest Humane Society was the only option and therefore doing it over the winter was not possible. We've had something of an early spring this year, which is great for most because who doesn't love warm weather, but this has obviously kicked the animals into early breeding. Scruffles looks pregnant again. And talking to the neighbour, she obviously left it too long to call the Humane Society and the soonest appointment is June. Clearly Scruffles will have had kittens by then and to be honest, neither I, nor my neighbour wants to deal with anymore kittens. If it was possible to get Scruffles in to be spayed, the pregnancy would have to be aborted, which at this point after everything that's happened, I think I could deal with, however there is no way that they will take her before June.

My neighbour obviously does not want to be trapping feral kittens again, especially when homes are so hard to find and I believe she is at the point where she plans to trap Scruffles and will drop her at the Humane Society where she will definitely be destroyed. Obviously, seeing as I have 9 cats, I clearly have too big of a heart. Scruffles is very feral and several years old, I am almost positive that she can not be tamed and with the 9 cats I already have it would be impossible to have enough time and space to dedicate to try to tame her. I think she is mostly happy outside and I would wish for nothing more than to have her live outside in peace and I would continue to feed her so long as she was spayed and we didn't have to worry about these babies anymore. I'm having a very hard time dealing with the idea of my neighbour taking her in to be destroyed. I think this cat has had a difficult enough life. We suspect she was abandoned by the previous owner of my neighbour's home and for her to have survived through several harsh Manitoba winters, she must be an exceptionally strong little kitty. She's a trooper, and it breaks my heart to think of her being destroyed. But I just don't know what to do.

My only idea is that my neighbour could try to trap her and if I could find the appropriate resources, perhaps I could keep her in a cage/pen in my garage so that she would give birth in semi-captivity. Then the location of the kittens would be controlled and they might be tamer being born in captivity like that. Scruffles would also be trapped and then we would theoretically be able to have her spayed some time after giving birth.

I don't know how sound this idea is. I don't know if it is workable or not. I'm not sure if it is just pure desperation. I thought perhaps some people on this forum may have more knowledge than me and could advise whether it sounds possible or not. Please be honest.

My main concerns (besides the difficult task of finding homes for kittens):

how to regularly feed her in a cage

how to regularly keep a litter box changed

whether she would give birth in captivity

I do appreciate any and all feedback. I'm sorry this post ran so long. ^_^
 

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This is tough, but I agree that she needs to be trapped and if you can somehow prevent her being killed, that's what I would do. If you could set something up inside for her so she had plenty of hiding places to feel safer and have her kittens, then perhaps she could handle that until you could take the kittens and socialize them and have her spayed. The other option, a hard one, is to take her to a regular vet (surely someone there will deal with a feral) and have her spayed (and the kittens aborted). I had that done with one of my ferals and it was difficult, but I think she had had lots of litters and I didn't want to take the chance of her not being trappable and getting pregnant again plus having another litter of feral kittens.

Bless your heart - I have had as many as 11 and somehow, if you can make it work, you do.

Keep us posted, okay?
 
 
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You know, gotta thank you for your post. I called all the vets in my area last fall (and my local humane society is over an hour away so it's a pretty large area) and no one but them would deal with feral cats. But wouldn't you know, I read your post and I thought, "I'm desperate, why not call this one vet just to double check?" Anyway, I gave them a call and what do you know? They now deal with ferals! Must have been enough demand. So there is an option now.

I've phoned my neighbour and discussed the situation with her today in length. Considering the cat basically "lives" on her property and only comes to visit me for munchies I feel I have to respect her feelings and views on the matter. I know I can't take this cat into my home and therefore accept total responsibility for her so the decision is not solely mine. I explained that they would do the procedure without a long wait as soon as Scruffles could be trapped, which is wonderful. And also that it would not be a subsidized discounted price, so I would be willing to help pay for it if that was an issue. I was as earnest as I could be about how I felt and that I would help in any way I could to prevent this poor dear from being destroyed. She's a very nice woman, but I'm just not sure where she's sitting on "the fence". She told me she would talk to her husband and let me know what they feel they'd like to do.

Right now I'll take a breath and let them have some time to think on it. I know she doesn't want to harm poor Scruffles either, but I'm still not certain where she and her husband will come out on things. Right now I'll just try and send out some good vibes (LOL) and hope they come to the best decision. Because honestly I'm not sure what I'll do or say if they announce they're going to go the other way (her hubby seems to be the wild card). Right now I'm trying to be a good, honest and supportive neighbour. I figure its best to think positive for now instead of worrying myself for no reason.

Thanks so much for the support! Just your posting helped me find a possible solution!
 

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OH dear.... I really HOPE that those people agree with you in that Scruffles needs to be trapped and spayed :sigh: I know that is so hard to do, but there are so many, many, many kittens, unwanted kittens that this would be for the best. OR at the very least, she needs to be trapped and kept indoors or in a large cage where she can have her kittens safely. Then they could all be socialized and she could get spayed and not ever have to have any more kittens. I really hope these people agree. Are these cat's owned by your neighbor? OR are they just strays she feeds. If the latter is the case, I would try to educate her gently on why it is so important to get them all fixed so no more kittens.... :cross: :vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes::vibes:

Bless you for caring so much :heart2: :rub: :hugs:
 
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Some success! I'm so glad, the neighbours have agreed that they will trap her and have her spayed at the clinic I told them about. I'm a bit sad (of course) about the pregnancy issue, but like you said, there are just too many kittens and not enough loving homes. This will be the best thing for her.

They said they're supposed to be able to get the trap from our local animal control tomorrow (Monday) so long as whoever else has them returns them by then. We'll cross our fingers that they get the trap and then keep them crossed that trapping her isn't too difficult. They sure can be wily. I'm always anxious at these times, but provided everything goes well, I'm so excited to think that poor little Scruffles will finally be free to enjoy her life outside without the stress of 2 or more pregnancies a year. And no more poor kittens to try and re-home.

It's not anyone's cat, but she does spend most of her time on their property here and there as they have many old farm buildings she likes to use for shelter and what not. I'm the one who's been feeding her everyday (although I think they were feeding her during the winter).

When I started seeing her (and the 2 other ferals I adopted) regularly last year I tried to educate myself and get into the TNR mind-set as I hated seeing them outside and braving our harsh winters. When I got into the process I talked to the neighbours and passed along the info and they agreed to take responsibility for Scruffles. Things have just been a little earlier than expected this year and my neighbour didn't get her call in early enough for an appointment.

But hopefully things are on the up now, and I appreciate any and all fingers out there who might cross on Scruffles behalf! ^_^

Thanks everyone for the advice and encouragement. I'll keep it posted.
 
 

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:clap::clap: Great job and wonderful news!!! You did so good :clap: getting the neighbors to agree to do what is in the best interest of Scruffles. You have a beautiful heart :heart3: and bless you for caring for the little feral kitties. Keep us posted :nod: :D
 
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