Originally Posted by WhollyCat
Because Bio-Mer isn't too forth coming with ingredients, I found the ingredients here: http://www.wheyprotein.com.au/info_Tripernol.aspx
Ingredients Each softgel contains:
167mg Green Lipped Mussel Oil Extract from Perna canaliculus
333mg Organic Soy lecithin Phospholipid
0.675mg Vitamin E (d-alpha-tocopherol)
To each their own I guess. And yes I know the difference; I didn't just fall off the turnip truck, but it is
derived from soy.
I'm not feeding soy in any form
to my kitties--I'm not willing to take the chance of it being detrimental to them. And this product has way more soy lecithin than it has of what is supposed to be the main ingredient of the product. It is very rare that lecithin is not going to be soy based, so I wanted to check to make sure.
For hairballs I would use egg yolk lecithin, not soy derived, as an emulsifier.
I hear what you're saying, but they are still derived from soy. Furthermore, if the Choline was meat- or liver-based, then I would agree--because cats, being carnivores
, have little (if any) ability to derive benefit from plant-based nutrients.
I see nothing "not forthcoming" on the ingredients.
Soy Lecithin, again, is not soy. The same way Ascorbic Acid, a form of Vitamin C, which can be derived from orange Juice, is not orange Juice.
Again, I repeat - Lecithin, no matter where it comes from, is a molecule - once it is extracted, it is what it is - Lecithin. Sure, theirs come from Soy, but it is still lecithin, no matter where it is coming from. Your kitty is not digesting soy - your kitty is taking an extracted supplement - there is a major difference.
That has to be understood here. Same as taking a vit. E supplement.... It can be derived from a plant - once it is extracted in its pure form, it doesn't matter. The cat is not digesting and metabolizing the plant to extract that vitamin - it is ingesting in its pure form.
It also has to be understood WHAT causes thyroid imbalances in soy - it is not Lecithin. They are not in the "same basket". That is just being simplistic, IMHO.
As I said, Lecithin is a Phosphatidylcholine, while the phytoestrogens found in soy are Soy Isoflavones, which affects the body differently. Lecithin doesn't affect hormone levels as do the Isoflavones. This is not a matter of "to each its own", or a matter of a cat being a carnivore.
All my cats eat raw, all my cats are carnivores..... But I also understand what a compound is, how different molecules react in the body, and how they are not different, once extracted in its pure form, or synthesized, no matter where they come from. As long as their molecules are the same - it doesn't matter if that lecithin comes from egg yolk or soy, or whatever - it is lecithin.
IMHO attention needs to be paid when saying "cats are carnivore" and can not digest plant-based nutrients - that is not true.
Cats can not digest fruits and vegetables - from there to say they can't metabolize vitamins extracted from them, and given to them in its pure form is simply not correct IMHO.
Cats do metabolize Calcium from seaweed just fine, Vitamins just as well, extracts, and plenty of supplements, - when given in its pure form - what they can't do, is digest plants, fruits and vegetables, and from that food metabolize those nutrients. That they can't do as they don't have the necessary enzymes to digest plant-based foods
. However, supplements and vitamins, when pure, don't require those enzymes to be broken down and absorbed; thus kitties metabolize them just fine.Edited by Carolina - 5/26/12 at 1:08am