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post #1 of 31
4/12/12 at 8:02am
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Cigarettes vs. e-Cigarettes: Which Is Less Environmentally Harmful?
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Although it is also a controversial product, electronic cigarettes, or e-cigarettes, could help reduce this toxic burden. The devices use a small amount of power to vaporize nicotine, which is then inhaled. Some are marketed as entirely nicotine free, and many have flavorings added. Many are advertised as helping smokers wean themselves off their habit.

Most electronic cigarettes are reusable, meaning only a tiny amount of vapor needs to be refilled for each use. This means they are potentially more eco-friendly than going through mountains of single-use products, which take resources to produce. e-Cigarettes are typically powered by reusable batteries, and are often charged via USB ports.

Because electronic cigarettes don’t produce smoke, they are much less risky to non-users and to air quality in general.

Environmental protection may not be a factor in most people's decision to switch to vaping, but it's a great argument, and something I personally have tried to take one step farther by using repairable atomizers and "advanced personal vaporizers", a.k.a. battery mods.
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post #2 of 31
4/19/12 at 1:09pm
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Electronic cigarettes may aid quitters' memory
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People who attempt to quit without using a nicotine substitute may suffer a dip in their working memory levels while their body adjusts to reduced amounts of the chemical.

But a new study presented at the annual conference of the British Psychological Society suggests that battery-operated 'e-cigarettes' that enable quitters to inhale nicotine can reduce this effect.

The last thing European vapers need right now is for PVs to be viewed as medical devices. The FDA in the U.S. still hasn't given up the idea of restrictions, and an EU decision is expected this year.
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post #3 of 31
4/19/12 at 6:34pm
We were just talking about his last night. The effects on your body and mind when you quit smoking cigarettes and how the e-cig could help overcome these bothersome withdrawal symptoms. Interesting article!!!! I just think the FDA takes FOREVER to approve something that may be beneficial to people's health, they already have their stamp of approval on something that IS killing people. Also, the FDA doesn't want to approve e-cigs partly because of the attraction the juices will have on kids. I just wonder IF e-cigs will ever be approved in the US. It will take EONS and EONS. The FDA doesn't right the laws, the senators and reps do. They are the one lining their pockets from the lobbyists.... sigh.gif
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post #4 of 31
4/19/12 at 6:57pm
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Originally Posted by Feralvr View Post

We were just talking about his last night. The effects on your body and mind when you quit smoking cigarettes and how the e-cig could help overcome these bothersome withdrawal symptoms. Interesting article!!!! I just think the FDA takes FOREVER to approve something that may be beneficial to people's health, they already have their stamp of approval on something that IS killing people. Also, the FDA doesn't want to approve e-cigs partly because of the attraction the juices will have on kids. I just wonder IF e-cigs will ever be approved in the US. It will take EONS and EONS. The FDA doesn't right the laws, the senators and reps do. They are the one lining their pockets from the lobbyists.... sigh.gif

The government makes a LOT of $$$$$$$$$ out of cigarette taxes...... It will take a while before e-cigs get approved....
Think about it - I can make my own juices..... It will be hard to regulate it. Even buying it, I spend $40-50/mo on hardware/juices....... as oppose of $180. And that is because I splurge on juices.

BTW - this is a great site on E-cigs and smok-free alternatives, with all news, legalities, studies, FAQs, ETC:
http://casaa.org/Electronic_Cigarettes.html

They have a facebook page too, for those on FB....... Just search CASAA

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post #5 of 31
4/21/12 at 8:25am
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Originally Posted by Carolina View Post

The government makes a LOT of $$$$$$$$$ out of cigarette taxes...... It will take a while before e-cigs get approved....
Think about it - I can make my own juices..... It will be hard to regulate it. Even buying it, I spend $40-50/mo on hardware/juices....... as oppose of $180. And that is because I splurge on juices.
BTW - this is a great site on E-cigs and smok-free alternatives, with all news, legalities, studies, FAQs, ETC:
http://casaa.org/Electronic_Cigarettes.html
They have a facebook page too, for those on FB....... Just search CASAA
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Uhh - thanks for that site!!! clap.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gif
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post #6 of 31
5/9/12 at 11:55am
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A little bit of "fluff": Celebrities Smoking Electronic Cigarettes: Leo DiCaprio, Katherine Heigl, JWoww Puff Away

This article is a bit older; a cigarette producer is getting in on the act: Lorillard reports 10 percent drop in 1Q profits, buys blu ecigs
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Greensboro-based Lorillard Inc. (NYSE: LO) saw its first quarter net income drop 10 percent during a quarter that saw net sales decline slightly even as the company's flagship brand, Newport, made small gains in market share.

Along with reporting quarterly results, the third largest cigarette maker in the U.S. announced that it had purchased Charlotte-based e-cigarette company blu ecigs for $135 million, a move that gives the cigarette maker an alternative product line as smoking rates and sales continue to decline nationally.
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post #7 of 31
5/16/12 at 1:45pm
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Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em: The FDA
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In a blog post that would be funny if the topic weren’t so distressing, ACSH advisor Dr. Michael Siegel, professor in the Department of Community Health Sciences at the Boston University School of Public Health, criticizes the FDA’s latest announcement warning smokers about the dangers of using electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes).

On the FDA’s website, the agency warns that the risks of e-cigarettes aren’t precisely known — thus smokers should avoid them and rely instead on FDA-approved smoking cessation methods, such as nicotine replacement patches, gum, and lozenges. Plus, they warn, it’s possible that young people might be attracted to e-cigarettes, which could lead them to smoke tobacco.

But, as Dr. Siegel puts it, the FDA is essentially urging smokers to stick to smoking, because, unlike with e-cigarettes, we know exactly what the risks of smoking are — and they are extremely high. “Additionally,” he notes, “there is a risk that electronic cigarettes may be attractive to young people and might lead kids to try smoking. With your regular cigarettes, it is a known fact that your using the product will attract kids to smoking.”
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post #8 of 31
5/19/12 at 11:54am
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Survey: Retailers Say E-Cigs More Than Passing Fad
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Electronic cigarettes are still a relatively young product for the convenience channel. But a new Wells Fargo Securities Tobacco Talk survey found that retailers and wholesalers think e-cigs are here to stay.

The interest from major tobacco companies could be a driving a force behind the positive attitude toward e-cigs. Last month, Lorillard Inc. became the first of the big three tobacco giants to enter the e-cig arena with its acquisition of blu ecigs for $135 million, as CSNews Online previously reported. In addition there is speculation that Reynolds American Inc. will be the next to make a move, according to Bonnie Herzog, managing director, beverage, tobacco and consumer research at Wells Fargo Securities.
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post #9 of 31
6/3/12 at 10:50am
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Not a news article, but a very interesting - and positive - letter from the American Council On Science And Health:
Dr. Whelan and Dr. Ross ask the FDA to reconsider e-cigarettes
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The American Council on Science and Health (ACSH), a consumer education and advocacy nonprofit devoted throughout our 34-year history to the promotion of sound science in public health policy, urges the FDA to reconsider their current, hyper-precautionary position on electronic cigarettes. The truth is, e-cigarettes have the potential to help the 20 percent of Americans who remain addicted to smoking.

This is good, too: Effect of an electronic nicotine delivery device (e-Cigarette) on smoking reduction and cessation: a prospective 6-month pilot study
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post #10 of 31
6/3/12 at 1:33pm
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LOVE the slap in the wrist Letter!! clap.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gif
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post #11 of 31
6/4/12 at 5:54pm
Agree, awesome!!!!!!! clap.gifclap.gifclap.gif You know, we were taking about the FDA's involvment in e-cigs vs. regular cigarettes. They keep focusing on e-cigs as being used as a stepping stone smoking cessation product. Well, not for us. It is an alternative to smoking for us. A way to save ourselves from all of the thousands of chemicals in cigarettes. As we already know, the FDA does not want e-cigs to be approved and IF they ever do - we can be guaranteed that juices will be triple the cost they are now. Just some of our thoughts laughing02.gif
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post #12 of 31
6/4/12 at 6:12pm
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Originally Posted by Feralvr View Post

As we already know, the FDA does not want e-cigs to be approved and IF they ever do - we can be guaranteed that juices will be triple the cost they are now. Just some of our thoughts laughing02.gif
yeah..... I kind of have those thoughts myself too anon.gif
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post #13 of 31
6/5/12 at 1:11am
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The state health ministers in Germany are meeting this month, and we're all expecting a new tax on liquids. We already pay 19% VAT, but suspect there'll be some sort of extra "nicotine tax" to make up for the lost tobacco taxes. Unfortunately, a ban is still in the offing. Hopefully greed will win out, and we'll just have to pay more.
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post #14 of 31
6/17/12 at 11:26am
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No NY law seen soon for e-cigarettes
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New York was expected to become the first state to ban the growing trade in electronic cigarettes this year, but now even passage of legislation that would prohibit minors from buying e-cigarettes appears unlikely.

With two dueling bills and less than a week left in the legislative session, lawmakers aren't optimistic about passing any new state laws dealing with e-cigarettes.

New York is among several states waiting for action by the federal Food and Drug Administration. The FDA is continuing a lengthy review of e-cigarettes, and has said e-cigarettes could still be regulated as drugs or drug-delivery devices if they are "marketed for therapeutic purposes," -- for example, as a stop-smoking aid. The FDA will also consider regulating them as tobacco products.
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post #15 of 31
7/5/12 at 11:02pm
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Be careful about stealth vaping! Fake cigarette caused M6 police Megabus coach swoop
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A fake cigarette prompted armed police to swoop on a coach on the M6 Toll road and close the motorway for more than four hours.

Forty eight passengers on the Megabus Preston to London service were led off the coach and forced to sit apart in a cordon on the opposite carriageway.

The road was closed near Lichfield before police said they were no longer treating the incident as suspicious.

Police said they received a "genuine report" of vapour escaping from a bag.

Armed officers, troops, firefighters and bomb disposal experts all went to the scene.

M6 Toll terror scare ’caused by electronic cigarette’
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post #16 of 31
7/5/12 at 11:47pm
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post

Be careful about stealth vaping! Fake cigarette caused M6 police Megabus coach swoop
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A fake cigarette prompted armed police to swoop on a coach on the M6 Toll road and close the motorway for more than four hours.
Forty eight passengers on the Megabus Preston to London service were led off the coach and forced to sit apart in a cordon on the opposite carriageway.
The road was closed near Lichfield before police said they were no longer treating the incident as suspicious.
Police said they received a "genuine report" of vapour escaping from a bag.
Armed officers, troops, firefighters and bomb disposal experts all went to the scene.
M6 Toll terror scare ’caused by electronic cigarette’
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Seriously, I know, I know I should not be laughing about this, but I just couldn't help 1.gif
The worst part of it all is, the person was not vaping or stealth vaping.... It seems that he/she just forgot to turn it off before putting it into the bag..... and worst - left the atty on doh3.gif
This reminds me of the case of the woman who forgot to take the batteries of her personal massager before checking her luggage and the thing started vibrating crackup.gif
Security everywhere, dogs, cops...... They go to the front to the plane with a vibrating bag and ask "to whom does this bag belong to"? anon.giflaughing02.gif
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post #17 of 31
7/6/12 at 12:45pm
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Security has always been tight in Britain, but it's particularly so right now because the Olympics will be starting in just a few weeks. I'll bet a lot of vapers will be more careful after reading that story.

Now the BBC has another article: What's the etiquette with electronic cigarettes?
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So is it socially acceptable to take a battery assisted puff on a train or in a public library? And what about in the office or at a dinner party?
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post #18 of 31
7/7/12 at 12:45am
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post

Security has always been tight in Britain, but it's particularly so right now because the Olympics will be starting in just a few weeks. I'll bet a lot of vapers will be more careful after reading that story.
Now the BBC has another article: What's the etiquette with electronic cigarettes?
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So is it socially acceptable to take a battery assisted puff on a train or in a public library? And what about in the office or at a dinner party?
Yeah..... The one thing I have noticed about this whole thing, is that not once there was a derogatory tone in there towards e-cig.... quite the contrary, and I think this is really good agree.gif
Maybe something good will come out of it....
I do use etiquette while vaping in public.... I DO vape, everywhere, but I stealth vape. I am so used to not blowing vapor at all when in a public place, it is automatic.... I never got a crossed look.... I think it does help that my PV doesn't look anything like a cigarette too....
For now I am not scared, my habits are not changing.....
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post #19 of 31
7/26/12 at 5:36am
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Except for the fact that the author calls vapor "smoke" and views personal vaporizers as a means to quit smoking rather than as an alternative to cigarettes, this article does a good job of explaining the basics:
What are e-cigarettes, and how do they work?
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Many different companies right now make kits that allow you to vaporize your nicotine using more advanced kits. Unlike the disposables, these kits break down into individual replaceable pieces that allow you to customize your smoking experience. These kits can include things like larger batteries, increased vapor delivery, even so much as direct control over how many volts your battery is discharging to your atomizer. There’s a lot of customization allowed, and there are websites all over that are dedicated to selling individual parts for building your own smoking kit.
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post #20 of 31
7/26/12 at 9:29am
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post

Except for the fact that the author calls vapor "smoke" and views personal vaporizers as a means to quit smoking rather than as an alternative to cigarettes, this article does a good job of explaining the basics:
What are e-cigarettes, and how do they work?
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post #21 of 31
8/6/12 at 12:29pm
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'Electronic cigarettes could be unsafe and lead to health problems,' ministers warn
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They are considering toughening-up the law by ensuring the devices undergo strict checks before being put on sale.
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The Government’s drug’s watchdog - the Medicine and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency - will make a decision next Spring on whether to introduce stricter checks.

Health minister Simon Burns said: ‘The available data suggest that there can be great variability in the content of electronic cigarettes, both in the amount of nicotine present and also in relation to other potentially toxic substances.

‘Some electronic cigarettes have been tested by local authority trading standards departments and have been found to pose a potential danger to consumers.’

Despite concerns over their safety, the watchdog does not want to ban them as it could lead to smokers going back to ordinary cigarettes.
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post #22 of 31
8/9/12 at 12:39pm
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This is an interesting forecast:
E-Cigarettes a Wake-Up Call for Big Tobacco
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While some may have thought they were just a passing fad, electronic cigarettes may not only be here to stay but could surpass traditional cigarettes to become a leading tobacco product among adult consumers.

"While difficult to predict, we think it is possible that consumption of [electronic cigarettes] could outpace traditional cigarettes over the next decade, especially given the rapid pace of innovation and consumers' demand for reduced harm products," said Bonnie Herzog, managing director, beverage, tobacco and consumer research at Wells Fargo Securities LLC. "As [e-cigarettes] continue to evolve and offer an experience that is increasingly similar to smoking a traditional cigarette, we think consumer acceptance and conversion will accelerate."
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post #23 of 31
8/18/12 at 8:05am
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E-cigarettes: No smoke, but fiery debate
A pretty good summary of the pro and con arguments, but the idiots who scream, "Think of the children!" really annoy me. Do they really think kids are going to be able to afford e-cigs? I work with teens and twentysomethings, and only those with a lot of self-confidence dare to try something that's so devoid of the "cool factor". The ones who've tried/switched have all been 25 or older, so certainly not kids.
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post #24 of 31
8/20/12 at 2:04am
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Smokeless study: Local nurse exploring e-cigarettes possibilities for smoking cessation
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For Ely, cigarette use is as much about the psychological, social and oral ritual as it is about a smoker’s addiction to nicotine.

Though not good for a person’s heart, Ely contends there are no studies linking nicotine to cancer or other respiratory problems that often plague longtime smokers.

Electronic cigarettes, Ely theorizes, would allow people to continue their smoking rituals and get the nicotine they desire without exposing themselves to the more than 7,000 carcinogens found in normal cigarettes.
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“If you don’t want to quit smoking, then you’re not going to,” Ely said. “But if you just want to keep getting your nicotine this is a better way to do it. It’s better for you and better for the people around you because there’s no second hand smoke.”
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post #25 of 31
8/25/12 at 4:42am
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This is a really positive report! E-Cigarettes Pose No Risk of Heart Disease, Study Finds
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Electronic cigarettes used by smokers who want to kick the habit show no connection to heart disease, according to a study that adds to evidence of health benefits of switching from tobacco to smokeless alternatives.

E-cigarettes, electronic tubes that simulate the effect of smoking by producing nicotine vapor, prompted no adverse effects on cardiac function in the study, researchers from the Athens- based Onassis Cardiac Surgery Center said in a report presented at the European Society of Cardiology annual meeting in Munich today.
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Previous studies have found that the electronic devices would have to be smoked daily for four to 12 months to achieve the levels of nitrosamines, a carcinogen, that are present in a single tobacco cigarette, the researchers said.
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post #26 of 31
8/25/12 at 12:31pm
Yep, I was right at this minute trying to tag you on fb with this one, but my phone is giving me a hard time! I just went to the dr. This past week..... And my lungs are still clean clean (as oppose of chronic bronchitis I had before).
I was Vaping to the minute he walked on the door, and my bp was on the spot, perfect!
I am one happy chick! clap.gif
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post #27 of 31
9/9/12 at 11:56am
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This is a good summary of the current situation in the UK: The Continued Rise Of E-Cigarettes
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post #28 of 31
9/18/12 at 12:24pm
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UNFOUNDED CLAIMS BY ‘EXPERTS’ IN TELLING THE PUBLIC E-CIGARETTE CAN DAMAGE THE LUNGS
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Michael Siegel a professor in the department of Community Health Sciences at the Boston University School of Public Health, has branded these claims as ridiculous, damaging, and ignorant of all of the existing evidence available on Electronic Cigarettes. He responds, The media claimed that the results indicate that electronic cigarettes cause "damage" to the lungs and/or cause "less oxygen to be absorbed by the blood." However, this is not strictly true. The study found that use of an electronic cigarette for 10 minutes increased airway resistance in smokers without existing lung disease (although there was no effect on airway resistance in those with existing obstructive lung disease). A temporary increase in airway resistance does not equate to "lung damage”

For example, breathing hot humid air has been found to increase airway resistance in some healthy subjects, but one would not claim that breathing humid air damages the lungs. A transient increase in airway resistance due to an exposure does not necessarily translate into a clinically significant or meaningful effect, or to "harm" or "damage" to the lungs.

Further evidence to support Professor Siegel’s argument has been documented in research conducted at the University of Kentucky Medical Center.
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post #29 of 31
10/17/12 at 12:25pm
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From the UK, where the government has a positive attitude towards PVs:
How e-cigarettes can reduce the harm caused by smoking
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This month is Stoptober, a £6m Department of Health campaign to help people to quit smoking within 28 days. Health experts believe that if they can achieve that they are five times more likely to quit the habit for good.

Persuading people to stop smoking is what anti-tobacco groups describe as the holy grail. Yet next week, there will be what amounts to an official acknowledgment that sometimes it is simply impossible to persuade some smokers to quit so, instead, there needs to be harm reduction. ...
Certainly, the popularity of e-cigs is increasing. According to Action on Smoking and Tobacco (ASH), the proportion of smokers currently using e-cigarettes has more than doubled from 3 per cent in 2010 to 7 per cent in 2012, which they estimate is between 650,000 and 700,000 smokers in Great Britain. Even higher were the figures for those who have ever tried an e-cig. In 2010, it was nine per cent of smokers. By this year it had risen to 22 per cent and the World Health Organisation believes it will reach one million by next year.

Although the NICE guidance is not expected to concentrate on e-cigs, there is growing interest in this means of ‘nictoine delivery’.
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post #30 of 31
10/18/12 at 10:55am
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Some predictions for the future: E-Cigarettes Coming of Age
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Exponential growth in usage and innovative packaging lead some experts to believe e-tobacco may be the wave of the future.
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Regulation Issues
Last April, the FDA announced its plans to regulate e-cigarettes as tobacco products and will work with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to tax and regulate distribution, which means e-cigarette importers must have tobacco importing licenses, and sellers must have tobacco licenses in all 50 states.

States are still figuring out how to deal with e-cigarettes. In Hawaii, for example, the product was up against a proposal that aimed to tax e-cigarettes at 70% of the wholesale price. Luckily for Hawaiian retailers, the bill was not passed.
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