Kitten Self Nursing! PLEASE HELP!!!!

CatLover4Ever said:

and i belive every she-cat should have the experiance.

if there is like a liter of 3, i will keep them all.

But over 5, i will only keep one, and find the other's good homes.

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You are entitled to do as you please with your own pet.  No one can say you don't... The problem is that it does become a problem after a certain point.  I don't know how many you have but past a certain number is illegal and considered hoarding in most states.  You can lose ALL of your precious babies.  And chances are, a lot will not be adopted and will be put down if that happens.  I am not trying to be mean in any way.  I just want you to consider the health and well being of your babies and yourself first.  This cat is very nervous and stressed.  She would not be a good mother.  This is my opinion, of course.  But I do believe it would do her more harm than good to have babies. 

CatLover4Ever said:

and i belive every she-cat should have the experiance.

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Please reconsider. If you really loved cats, you would spay her before she has even 1 litter.

http://www.humanesociety.org/issues/pet_overpopulation/facts/why_spay_neuter.html

http://www.medicinenet.com/pets/cat-health/spaying_or_neutering_your_cat_faq.htm

Q: Why should I have my cat spayed or neutered?

A: Shelter euthanasia is the number one killer of companion animals, and spaying and neutering is the only way to reduce or eliminate that. It's also better for your pet's health. And it's better for you because it will make your life easier if your pet is spayed or neutered.

Q: Shouldn't I let my cat have a litter before I spay her?

A: No. You shouldn't for several reasons. It greatly reduces the risk of certain cancers if you have her spayed before the first heat and certainly before she has a litter.

And most places are overrun with kittens, particularly in the south. Overrun. And there is simply no excuse whatsoever to allow your cat to have kittens. There are millions of cats and kittens out there that need homes and millions more that are abandoned or handed out at places like Wal-Mart. There's simply no good argument to have a litter of kittens.

There are shelters in the Atlanta area that can have 40 to 50 moms with litters in their shelters on any given day during the spring and summer. There simply aren't enough homes for all the cats that get born every kitten season. And in the south, kitten season is almost year round. And there's a kitten season everywhere.

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As much as I love my kitten angel and I know that her babies would be cute,it is just not fair to let her have a litter at all and all kittens are "cute" this is also not a reason. It is your choice but I think you are being unfair.x

Cats are not humans. They take no particular pleasure in having a litter of kittens. It's not as if they are missing out on anything if they don't have a litter....well they are actually, missing out on the opportunity to develop cancer later in life but hey, you want some kittens so what's a little cancer for the cat?

It is an uneducated and careless attitude to want a litter of kittens. Go to your local shelter, there are plenty of homeless kitties there. I love how everyone says 'I'll find them good homes.....do you have any idea how difficult that is?  Call a local kill shelter and ask them how many kittens they euthanized last week. There aren't enough homes for kittens that are already here, why add to it?

CatLover4Ever said:

and i belive every she-cat should have the experiance.

if there is like a liter of 3, i will keep them all.

But over 5, i will only keep one, and find the other's good homes.

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If you are that good at finding new homes, you can perhaps instead help some good rescue group or a good shelter, to get  homes to their refugees.

Be a savior instead of producing your own moggies?

As RAFM said, this with cats wanting motherhood or fatherhood is ours human feelings.

Cats, once neutered, dont have any such needs.

If you still want small kittens, you can cooperate with said rescue group and foster their kittens.

Having a friendly, motherly resident (like yours will hopefully be) is only good.

And if your resident will not be this friendly and motherly - you perhaps dont want her to be a mother.

A serious breeder would abstain.

Good luck!

CatLover4Ever said:

No. she didnt say why, i would insume bcuz she loves the kittens, but.....

i dont have to wirry about them ending up on the street of anything,

she has raised cat's all her life with her mom who is a sertifyed breeder.

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Here I would give the same advice as to you.

Why produce more moggies when the world is FULL of homeless moggies desperate for homes.

If she is THAT good at finding good homes, better to help them who already are here, than to produce extras.

It is not even one of her queens planned to breed.  This is a moggie somebody forget to spay in time...

CatLover4Ever said:

and i belive every she-cat should have the experiance.


if there is like a liter of 3, i will keep them all.


But over 5, i will only keep one, and find the other's good homes.

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I really hope you take to your heart everything everyone has been telling you here in your thread. If you would just spend a few days volunteering at a cat shelter, witness the overcrowding conditions, witness the suffering, the fear and anxiety of the cat's, the sickness and illnesses they suffer with and worst of all, the feeling that no one loves and cares for them like they deserve...... they are all alone in such a stressful environment...... then you might reconsider letting your cat have kittens and get her spayed. Most of those cat's in the shelter are also the product of someone such as yourself..... Just wanting their cat to have a litter. Please go and see..... At least then you will be sure if you still want to go through with this. If you want kittens, the shelter will have many for you to choose from and it will be much less expensive getting kittens that way than breeding your own. The costs of raising healthy kittens can be very expensive.

Not all litters are born easily either without complications or without veterinarian assistance. That could potentially be very costly to you or worse....cost you the health of your cat. There are many possible things that could go wrong. It is just not worth the risk IMO.

RAFM said:

 Call a local kill shelter and ask them how many kittens they euthanized last week. There aren't enough homes for kittens that are already here, why add to it?

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Let's put a number to that..... about 6 million cats and dogs a year in the US alone.... That is not counting the millions that are homeless..... Or spending their lives in a cage in a shelter.... It is very very sad

StefanZ said:

If you are that good at finding new homes, you can perhaps instead help some good rescue group or a good shelter, to get  homes to their refugees.

Be a savior instead of producing your own moggies?

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It dawned on me this though is partly wrong.  If you are really good at finding homes, it is better to cooperate with a high kill shelter.  This way you do save a lot of lives who are worthy saving.

Cooperating with a good shelter is important if you are volunteering with them.  It is always better to cooperate with someone who do appreciate you and your work there, and is friendly to you and the cats, then to cooperate with somebody who is just bashing you and sees the cats just as a payment source from the city authorities.

i said i wonder spay her after 1 liter, after that, NO MORE BABIES!!!!

but i dont know hwy my friend spay Kyla...

CatLover4Ever said:

i said i wonder spay her after 1 liter, after that, NO MORE BABIES!!!!

but i dont know hwy my friend spay Kyla...

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Why even make her have one litter? That's still 1 litter too many. What happens if she has 7 female kittens, and what if the homes you find for those 7 kittens also think they should each have a litter? You've just exponentially added to the cat overpopulation CRISIS.

CatLover4Ever said:

i said i wonder spay her after 1 liter, after that, NO MORE BABIES!!!!

but i dont know hwy my friend spay Kyla...

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I realize everyone likes kittens... But, sometimes you have to think about the would be momma cat first.  With all her issues, you really think she would be a good mother?  If you want kittens, I agree with everyone else, go to your local shelter and adopt some.  Voluteering would be good.  Or better yet, go on kill day and listen to the horror.  It sounds like you have a very full plate already.  Many members are having trouble keeping up with the situation(s) you have going on. 

Breeding a cat, especially a moggie, just to have kittens is not a well thought out plan.  You say you are good at finding good homes... Do you really know for sure that those homes don't turn them out or put them in shelters when they are bored with them?  Do you know for sure that they are just continuing a vicious cycle?  The overpopulation of pets, and unwanted domestic animals are all the fault of irresponsible people.  It needs to be corrected asap... Not more people contributing to the problem. 

That is what people are trying to say and get across to you.  It may seem harsh and I can see your frustration in your posts... We can't stop you.  But, we are trying to help you open your eyes.  This is not good.  It's especially not good for this particular cat to be a mother.  She would not be a good one.  Putting her through the stress of breeding, pregnancy and motherhood just so YOU can have kittens in your home is not fair and not responsible.  I hope you can see that.

Please have her spayed BEFORE she has any babies. Cats do not need to have one litter. It's probably something that YOU would like to experience. So, if that is the case, become a foster home for your local animal shelter and foster an already pregnant cat.

Please do not contribute to the mass over population of cats. Please!

CatLover4Ever said:

and i belive every she-cat should have the experiance.

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I'm sorry, that is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. My girl was spayed at 4 months, has never had a litter, and believe me, she couldn't care less. There's no reason for a cat to have that "experience". Please, please, please get her spayed before she does get pregnant.

When I first got my girls, Rusty would try to nurse on Dusty. I figured it was because Dusty looked like mom. But it stopped after awhile. When I was a kid, I had 2 kittens that would nurse on my MALE dog. It was so cute.

That being said, I spayed my girls before their first heat and they haven't missed a thing. There are too many homeless kitties to let a cat have babies. I feel someone that loves cats would not let their cat have a litter of kittens. I feel only certain qualified breeders should let their cat mate and then only under controlled circumstances. Please spay your baby. It is for her own good!

Well. I"m sorry. But she is going to have a liter before i spay her. Final!

CatLover4Ever said:

Well. I"m sorry. But she is going to have a liter before i spay her. Final!

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.that is selfish, hard-headed and a ridiculously ignorant attitude, especially after learning that her risk of cancer is increased and that shelters are euthanizing kittens every single day. You are doing this for YOU, not her and not even considering her well being. That's not love, that's selfish.

But, hey, you want kittens, so who cares about the one you already have, she's just a means to an end for you. I am so sad for her. The person that is supposed to love and protect her doesn't care that she will have to go through a fairly violent mating process (it's not enjoyable for her), carry a litter of kittens, potentially risk her life and/or the lives of the kittens and then go through the painful separation process (she is already mourning the loss/move of the other cat).


Yeah, making her have a litter is a great idea. /sarcasm

CatLover4Ever said:

Well. I"m sorry. But she is going to have a liter before i spay her. Final!

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Fine if you are willing to keep all the litter but how do you know that these kittens,who ultimately turn into cats which lose their cuteness and appeal to SOME people that they will be looked after and live a long and happy life?

People, this matter is closed the way I see it.  She obviously is only interested in what she wants.  Sometimes you just can't get through to be people.  Lets just hope for the best and if she does keep the entire litter (which can be 6 or 8 or even more) that she has them all fixed.  And lets really hope that no one turns her in for having so many cats if she does have to keep them all.  It sounds like she has a full plate already.  I don't think she ever answered but it sounds like at least 3 or 4.  

Best of luck to you, Catlover4ever... I really hope you change your mind and think of the cat and not just you but if you don't... Please consider our advice in the future before you become overwhelmed.

P3 and The King said:

People, this matter is closed the way I see it.  She obviously is only interested in what she wants.  Sometimes you just can't get through to be people.  Lets just hope for the best and if she does keep the entire litter (which can be 6 or 8 or even more) that she has them all fixed.  And lets really hope that no one turns her in for having so many cats if she does have to keep them all.  It sounds like she has a full plate already.  I don't think she ever answered but it sounds like at least 3 or 4.  

Best of luck to you, Catlover4ever... I really hope you change your mind and think of the cat and not just you but if you don't... Please consider our advice in the future before you become overwhelmed.

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 Well said.x