HELP!!! I CANNOT TELL IF THIS KITTEN IS A MUNCHKIN (PICS) !!!!!

Welcome to TCS How old is the kitten and do you know how much the baby weighs. This would help. To me, the kitten's legs do look short. AWWWWWW What a precious, adorable little darling... Good luck and hope you let us know what you decide.

Hope you enjoy your time here on the site and please introduce yourself and your new kitten in the New Cat's on the Block http://www.thecatsite.com/f/20/new-cats-on-the-block....

I agree. His legs do look short to me. As a matter of interest, why do you want a Munchkin?

A question is, if a Munchkin cross is still a Munchin?   I dont know the breed good enough, nor the genetics.  Ie if it is a dominant or recessive gen.  I dont nothing if M. are allowed to be crossed with others.   (in some breeds it is allowed with "fresh blood", for example in some Rex).

 

The kitty looks wonderful, and lets hope it is healthy.

 

But if IS a Munchin, or "just" a short legged cat who is by friends called for a Munchkin cross, "count it as a M",   I dont know.

 

Look this out, IF a purebred M is important for you.

It's autosomal dominant (and lethal for heterozygous embryos). TICA allows outcrosses only with domestic short- and longhairs for Munchkin. No outcross allowed with any cat from an already recognized breed. I don't know if any other registry recognizes Munchkins, so if this is a TICA litter, the kitten is a moggie/domestic shorthair (unless TICA has some extra special exceptions you can make if you have permission beforehand, we have this thing in FIFé).

He is NOT a munchkin... Believe me, there'd be no denying it if he were.  He'd look like a kitty version of a Dashund.  Though his legs are short, they are proportioned, too.  So he is not a munchkin.  Good for you... You don't want one and never let anyone talk you into getting one.  BYB that trick people into buying these need to be stopped. 

His legs do look short to me as well. 

I get what you're saying as to the kitty version of a dachshund, but it's more complicated than that. I have dachshunds, and before getting my cats debated getting a munchkin (my family jokes around saying that I can't have pets with normal legs, lol). Anyways, the genetics behind the shortened limbs in dachshunds (or any other short legged breed; basset hounds, corgi's, shih tzus, etc) is different than the genetics of a munchkin (aside from the species differences). Munchkins are usually healthier in terms of their dwarfism and aren't plagued by the problems of other short legged/long backed animals. 

 

That''s what I was going to look up, as over here they can only being outcrossed to domestics.

 

If it's an approved outcrossing program you will still be able to get papers for the kitten showing that it's a Munchkin, really you need to be asking the breeder not using photos on a forum.
They are the only one that can tell you who they are registered with, whether it's an approved program or perhaps they do 2 breeds and it's an oops

 

How big he might get is also a question for the breeer

 

Edited by missymotus - 2/1/12 at 5:31pm

I don't know what he is other than white, but he's a cutie!!!! I miss my twins being kittens.

 

  I don't feel it's right to breed a creature to have this quality in any animal, and then charge people a ton of money for it.   It is just my opinion, though. 
 

 

He's not white. He's red or cream point.

Anything that has been bred for a specific breed or traits will have something that they're predispositioned to, you can't get everything you want in an animal and expect it to be perfectly healthy as well. Even mutts (in dogs) that are bred from different breeds aren't as healthy as everyone says, they don't just get the good genes. I'm sure it's similar for moggies as well. The most that the breeder can do is test their breeding stock and inform the buyer of anything that runs in the lines, after that it's up the buyer to make the final decision (for purebreds). 

 

I get what you're saying, but have you ever been on the inside of a breeding program? It costs A LOT of money keeping the animals healthy, show fees, vet visits, stud fees (if you don't own the stud), travel time, etc and the actual breeding and pregnancy take even more money and time. You cannot expect a breeder to not charge a good sized fee with all the work they put into it. 

 

Sorry for the hijack, if you'd like to talk about this more PM me. 

I'm not a total dummy... I know you're not saying I am but you sound like someone who breeds these poor creatures... Something they say to get you to believe it's OK.  And no I haven't bred my cats but I have bred dogs.  So I do know what it takes.  I know all the things "designer" dog and cat breeders say to get people to spend money on a non purebred animal... I also know how upset people get when they realize that what they spent all their money on is just a mutt (off subject sorry but munchkins fall into a designer breed).  I have been in touch with the breeders of my Persians and Birman for many years.  They are good and responsible breeders who breed the highest standard kittens they can... Not traits that one would consider undesirable and give it a cute name.  I know you cannot expect every animal to be perfect and healthy in every litter.   I am saying I don't agree with breeding undesirable traits on purpose for any animal... Dog, cat, whatever.  I don't think dashunds and other dogs that have the same dwarfism is right, either.  Just as I don't agree with teacup kittens.  That's what the first people that bred munchkins were trying to do, get "teacup" versions of a purebred line whether it be Persians, Simese, Birman, whatever... And they came up with this.  I think it is sick to do this.  I hope no one falls for the "teacup" line when it comes to cats because it is just a scam.  It's another form of dwarfism. 

 

The fact that the breed is accepted in championship by associations around the world makes it not a designer breed. BYB's crossing cats and making up names that are not accepted by registering associations are the designer breeds.

 

I personally don't agree with Munchkins, Scottish Folds etc. so I simply don't own or breed them!

 

Scottish Folds are not as bad as Munchkins.  They just have to be bred right by a breeder that knows what they are doing.  But, like with Munchkins, not all the kittens will have the "defect" that make them Scottish Folds.  I just disagree with any breeding that is intended for the sole purpose of breeding IN defects or disorders and not trying to breed them OUT which is what responsible breeders are trying to do with each breed.