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This is a major dilemma with a lot of issues.

A few weeks ago I had to put one of my cats Tazzy to rest, it broke my heart. I also had just moved to a place I thought was perfect for us. But that isn't necessarily true for them. I have not been able to feed them or retrain them as I would have wanted. The cat room and cat box is downstairs and only one litter type is allowed and it isn't what my cats are used to.

so I still have his brother Tigger and he is mostly blind, I think even more now. Now they all seemed to be ok going downstairs to use the litter box and coming back up before Tazzy died. Tigger has been depressed, he completely stopped purring and he always purred. He was my healer cat with his purr therapy. Then I realized he was using the bottom of the cat castle for his litter box. We took that out and cleaned it up and I suggested my Landlord/friend take him downstairs to use the litter box. I hoped he would stay and see what he did but he just left him there where he stayed hidden for 3 days.

They have other animals, 2 cats and 2 large dogs. The downstairs front is the Dogspace and the side is the tiny cat room with the litter and food (yeah, same room) I had been unable to go downstairs, but I bit the dust and did it go try to draw tigger out, but it didn't work. Next down he was found in the space under the tub which the cats have access to and that is where they hide. I had to go down and half coax and have pull him out. He was ok with me, but not happy until he got back into my room and got to get his bearings where he was. He is thin, They don't like the new food, and I am not allowed to feed them anywhere but the kitchen where the dogs and other cats hang out. I think that is partly what triggered Tazzy to get sick, and now my fat cat Tigger now has his hips showing and I can feel his spine and ribs. I have said I have their old cat food and am treating them with it until they get used to the new food, but I'm giving them as much as I can. I made a mistake by not asking details about the pet issue and was simply told we would work it out.

The litter box has not been kept how they have had it their entire lives. Too little litter and the top wasn't on it.

So, here is my problem. I fixed the litter box how they like it but how do I get tigger to go down there again? I can take him down there each day but they aren't like dogs who say when they have to go. In general, they used to go twice a day morning and night, all three of them. But I am worried about him escaping to the hiding place again and starving himself to being sick.

Im afaid they are going to ask me to get rid of him, but I would just as soon move again.

Also when two cats about the same age of 6 are friends, do they sound like they are killing each other when they play? One of mine and one of theirs, one male and one female both fixed.

I am showering him with affection, and the situation isn't going to change unless I move AGAIN, or find him a new home.  People keep telling me things I already know but I am just frustrated with this one.  I am going up against a brick wall with the homeowners.  I am just looking for ideas before I have to give him to my ex.  The other cat would go too, and I would not have any. but if that is the best I can do for them, that is how it has to be.

 

Thanks in advance

Jewel and Tigger

 

post #2 of 11

How old is Tigger?  Can your landlord/friend be talked into letting you put a litterbox and food bowl in your room for him?  It sounds like he is having a terrible time adjusting to your new home, and loss of his friend.  He is probably afraid of the dog, and/or other cats.  If hes blind, and older with low energy, maybe he would be ok with just hanging out in your room all the time.  It may be good to have him in your room, at least for an adjustment period and them slowly let him venture out.  I am so sorry for the loss of your other cat.  I know how hard it is.

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I'm really confused... you rent a room but are unable to do something as simple as keep a litterbox in it? And why does Tigger need to get used to a new kind of litter and new food? Why can't you feed your own cat whatever you want to feed him? Why are you unable to go downstairs?

 

I live in a small one-bedroom apartment with two cats. I've got one litterbox in the bathroom and one in the bedroom. One of my cats also eats in the bedroom. To help keep the carpet clean, I put the litterbox and the food bowls on towels. I vacuum twice a week. Have you talked to your landlord about why you can't feed Tigger and keep his litterbox in your bedroom?

 

If I were the homeowner, I'd be less worried about a bit of litter in the carpet than I would be about a cat urinating outside a box. I would be more worried about cat vomit on the carpet than about feeding a cat outside the "regulated" area. I don't mean to sound harsh, but the whole situation sounds really... stupid. If you are paying rent, you should have a certain amount of space that you can call your own. If you choose to have a litterbox there, or feed your cats there, that should be your prerogative.

 

Tigger is dealing not only with the loss of Tazzy, but with living in a new place, with new cats AND dogs! Denying him simple comforts like his normal litter, his normal food, and being able to be with YOU is devastating to him. I hate to ask this, but how would his living situation be if you gave him to your ex? I think at this point you have to do what is best for the cats. If it's best for Tigger to be with your ex, you can handle having no cats a lot better than Tigger can handle what he is going through right now.

 

I'm sorry that you lost Tazzy, I know how hard that is. But you still have Tigger, and you have to do what is best for him.

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crickets mom:  He is 10 and he would be happy staying in my room, in fact that is what he does. 

 

I saw this room for rent and it was perfect.  I wrote to, and became friends with the Husband... I lost the room, and got it back (long story).  I asked him about what my cats need and all he said was that we would work things out.  I moved in, signed the lease after being assured of everything that I was concerned about.  There were a couple issues after that with the animals (I think the start of Taz being sick) and so THEN I was given a list of house rules.  Now all these negative rules are from the wife, not from my friend.   He had intended on working things out I think, but they have an agreement that anything that has to do with household issues, she gets the last word.  She wants the litter boxes downstairs to keep the smell from being out here.  She doesn't like the smell of the litter I use itself.  Her rules are her rules, solid and firm, and I have tried.

 

Now I'm not sure why I had to explain because I have already tried to work things out with talking and compromising, but on this issue there doesn't to be a compromise.  She is supposed to be an animal lover, but not when it has to do with her house.  I want them to call their trusted vet and see what they say.   I need professionals to tell them what effect long term stress has on cats, and that they will starve enough to make themselves sick if they don't like the food, or if it's too stressful.  They won't listen to me.  I'm not even sure they would listen to websites.  (The food and litter are like 5 feet apart too).  They have had a lot of animals, probably more than me, but I have done the research on any problems I have had and their rules go against everything I know.

 

Tigger is about 10 and he's been sort of the slow lover not fighter cat most of his life.  He was garfield shaped, and now all his skin is just hanging under him. 

 

I guess if I can't figure out anything... I'm just going to let my ex have both of my remaining cats.  My little dog will be just fine with that.

 

These guys have been with me through a very rough year.  I have severe depression, and chronic pain and personal issues this last year have made it hell.  These guys are the only ones I can depend on, and they have saved my life a time or two.  They are part of me.  And I might have to give them up because someone is supposed to love animals won't budge because of keeping her *house* a certain way.  But if that is what it takes.....

 

So now that I have clarified my earlier post that the situation at this house will not change.  Any more suggestions to help him other than giving him up?

 

Sorry if I sound short and I am new here but I am still having trouble sleeping without my Tazzy, Kismet is acting a bit strange, and now with Tigger.  I'm not sleeping and I'm tired of having to clean up.  She doesn't even want my puppy pads in the bathroom which is where he usually goes ccause to Tigger that is where the litter box is supposed to be.  And food should be in the dining room of their cat castle.  Thanks for being patient.  Ask vets, ayone... I just need help.

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crickets mom:  He is 10 and he would be happy staying in my room, in fact that is what he does. 

 

I saw this room for rent and it was perfect.  I wrote to, and became friends with the Husband... I lost the room, and got it back (long story).  I asked him about what my cats need and all he said was that we would work things out.  I moved in, signed the lease after being assured of everything that I was concerned about.  There were a couple issues after that with the animals (I think the start of Taz being sick) and so THEN I was given a list of house rules.  Now all these negative rules are from the wife, not from my friend.   He had intended on working things out I think, but they have an agreement that anything that has to do with household issues, she gets the last word.  She wants the litter boxes downstairs to keep the smell from being out here.  She doesn't like the smell of the litter I use itself.  Her rules are her rules, solid and firm, and I have tried.

 

Now I'm not sure why I had to explain because I have already tried to work things out with talking and compromising, but on this issue there doesn't to be a compromise.  She is supposed to be an animal lover, but not when it has to do with her house.  I want them to call their trusted vet and see what they say.   I need professionals to tell them what effect long term stress has on cats, and that they will starve enough to make themselves sick if they don't like the food, or if it's too stressful.  They won't listen to me.  I'm not even sure they would listen to websites.  (The food and litter are like 5 feet apart too).  They have had a lot of animals, probably more than me, but I have done the research on any problems I have had and their rules go against everything I know.

 

Tigger is about 10 and he's been sort of the slow lover not fighter cat most of his life.  He was garfield shaped, and now all his skin is just hanging under him. 

 

I guess if I can't figure out anything... I'm just going to let my ex have both of my remaining cats.  My little dog will be just fine with that.

 

These guys have been with me through a very rough year.  I have severe depression, and chronic pain and personal issues this last year have made it hell.  These guys are the only ones I can depend on, and they have saved my life a time or two.  They are part of me.  And I might have to give them up because someone is supposed to love animals won't budge because of keeping her *house* a certain way.  But if that is what it takes.....

 

So now that I have clarified my earlier post that the situation at this house will not change.  Any more suggestions to help him other than giving him up?

 

Sorry if I sound short and I am new here but I am still having trouble sleeping without my Tazzy, Kismet is acting a bit strange, and now with Tigger.  I'm not sleeping and I'm tired of having to clean up.  She doesn't even want my puppy pads in the bathroom which is where he usually goes ccause to Tigger that is where the litter box is supposed to be.  And food should be in the dining room of their cat castle.  Thanks for being patient.  Ask vets, ayone... I just need help.


She obviously does not want to compromise.  It's her house and she doesn't see how difficult it's been on your poor Tigger.  Tigger is blind and change is going to be extremely difficult  and a long process of adjusting anyway.  Now he is grieving, just as you are, the loss of his brother.  Poor kitty! 

 

To be honest, giving them up at a shelter or rescue will mean immediate death for them.  No one has the resources or room to take in special needs animals.  And it wouldn't help Tigger anymore, either.  He'd probably die of a broken heart.

 

What I would do is talk to the husband.  Tell them this isn't how you invisioned this being.  Tell him how your are suffering and your wife doesn't seem to be very compromising or caring.  Tell him straightforward that you have special needs animals and he needs things to stay as close to the same as possible... His food, his litter, where he is used to it.  You are a renter.  YOU HAVE RIGHTS.  Tell him he needs to talk to his wife and work it out as he promised you.  Don't back down.   But, don't expect much.  It seems to me she is trying to drive you out.  So I would be looking for another place to live if I were you in the mean time and in case things don't change because if they have it that she has the final say, that kind of leaves you in a bind.  This lease is not fair to you. They need to respect you, too. 
 

 

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I've tried that.  I am on disability and that is my other option is to find a new place.  They don't care, though I think they need the money.  I can go to assisted living but it will take time to find a place with an opening in the meantime tigger suffers and I clean up his messes every day.

 

I would never give him to a shelter.  My ex has agreed to take both cats, it will be giving up what is left of my heart, but he wil be somewhere familiar.  He won't get the love and attention I give him because they don't have as much time..... and his new girlfriend doesn't like him as much.  I am giving up both so t least the two of them can be companions.  Everything will be back to as he knows it and where.  If there are problems, he will call me and let me know.  I am hoping if I do move and find a place I will be able to take Tigger back and we will adjust together to a new and smaller place with just my chihuahua who he is used to and doesn't bother him.

 

I'm angry, and I'm frustrated and sad after having lost Tazzy.  These guys have been my best friends when I have been alone in a very horrible situation for thee past year.  They have saved my life and I owe it to them to do the best I can manage for them.  Even if it means giving them up.  But never, ever to a shelter.  I would live with them on the streets before I did that.

 

Thanks,

Jewel

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I'm so sorry you're dealing with all that. I just can't believe that they won't make some compromises with you, especially if they do need the money. It sounds like the husband got you to move in under false pretenses, if he knows how you feel about your cats, and surely he knows how his wife feels. Seems pretty low and under-handed of them, if you ask me. I know you said that the wife is an animal person, but I don't believe it from what you've told us. If she loved animals she would care about what Tigger and you are going through with the loss of Tazzy.

 

I hope things work out. hugs.gif

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I actually wanted to move here, and exchanged lots of e-mails with Tom and we were getting along well.  Even after they rented it to someone else, we still met and kept talking.  I honestly think he wanted me here because he thought it would be a place for me to first get out of the awful situation I was in, and Second because he thought this would be a good place for me to heal.  Everything seemed to perfect.  Well then the guy that had moved in on a trial basis pissed everyone off in like the first week he was there.  He didn't bathe since he had been there, and then there was evidence he had lice so he was out and I was in.  I had come to see the place with Chaos (my chihuahua) so we could see how he got on with the Big dogs.  Well he scared the German Shepard and the St. Barnard didn't know if he should run or bark back.  Chaos just barks a lot but he's getting better.  They all go outside together and it's kind of funny.

 

I had asked Tom about the cats because I know they are sensitive.  I said they had their own food, and were fed in their cat castle and that has to go in my room.  And he said we would figure it all out.  I think he meant it, and I think there are still things he doesn't agree with her about, but they did have a deal in their marriage and he isn't going to mess with that after 26 years.  So what she says goes.  She was teary about Tazzy, and couldn't watch me cry.  I see how she is with her boys, but I also know she is more of a dog person.  She loves Chaos.  Bt they have one cat who stays downstairs in the cat area.  Tom has a bed for her above his computer because it's warm and safe up there.  But she is terrified to come upstairs.  In fact I made friends with her and she is so sweet.  She was talking to me and following me around when I was looking for Tigger.  As soon as she heard anyone ccoming downstairs, she darted to her safe place.  No one has tried to make her safe to come up here.

 

I feel the same way you do about all of this.  It sucks.  And the only advice and my best choice is to send them both back to my ex.  At least it will start over with everything where it was and with someone they know.  He won't get as much loving and cuddles there, but Eric said he would do his best.  I will stay in touch too and make sure.  I may find another situation as well where I can take him back and let him adjust his way.

post #9 of 11

If they cared, they would be more willing to meet you halfway and compromise.  I don't see why they won't let you be with your cats?  They are YOUR cats!  That's just crazy!!  Does it really seem to you they want you there with your cats?  I'd be looking for another place asap if it were me!!  I don't think it will get any better with your cats gone.  These people are nuts.  They don't respect you, your babies, or your rights as a tenant.  They should have told you the truth BEFORE you rented the room.  That is something I would go to the police about.  You weren't told beforehand the real situation.  Now it's causing you and your babies distress.  This isn't a good situation in any world. I am sorry. 

 

In fact:  I would tell them pointblank, you are a TENANT, not their kid... You have rights and you have the right to have your animals in your part of the house that you RENT from them.  If they will not compromise, you will go to the police... The police will be on your side.  Just tell them.  No more miss nicey nice.  Show no fear honey.  Stand up for yourself and your babies.  They are nothing to be afraid of!  If they truly want and need the rent money, they will turn it around and accept YOUR terms and if not, the police will make sure you get the time you need to find a more suitable home for you and your babies.  Go get em, girl!


Edited by P3 and The King - 1/31/12 at 9:03pm
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I am with my cats, in my room it's just that the litter box isn't here.   She has reasons she believes in, and she has a right to do so.  I take the blame because I was sort of blinded by other things and I did not ask enough questions and settled for the "we'll figure it out" answer when I shouldn't have.  They aren't insane, just believe their way.  Slamming them doesn't help me one bit.

 

I will be sendign them with my ex, and most likely looking for a place I can take Tigger back.  He won't give up Kismet, but that's fine, Tigger can get all my attention that he needs to settle in.  As long as I am there he is fine.  I know my cats, ever look and sound.  I know how to sooth them.  He will be ok with Eric because at least he is familiar.  I just didn't expect to lose all three because I didn't make things clear.  It's my responsibility to take care of them, not anyone ese's

post #11 of 11

True, but so do you.  The law says that your cats and their stuff is your property... They cannot deny you access to it.  It's against the law whether it's their beliefs/way or not.  They can't do it.  I think you'll find that things don't get any better even if your cats are gone with your ex.  If you don't stand up for yourself..... But that's your choice and I wish you luck.  Too many people are too afraid to rock the boat and stand up for themselves.  They think it has to be ugly, so they let others walk all over them.  It doesn't have to be that way.  I would have a calm but firm heart to heart with them at least.  I would tell them that maybe you didn't understand, but they also didn't make it clear about how the conditions would be when you moved in.  If you had known, maybe you wouldn't have moved in there.  Something has to be done because you don't want to lose your babies as they mean a lot to you.  I would contact the police just to be sure of the law yourself and if things go ugly, they don't bully you into leaving right away.  You have rights, too.  Regardless of who is at fault.  I just wish you could see that you don't have to give up your babies and your happiness.

 

You may think they are your friends but they definately aren't acting like it.  Friends would not cause you this distress.  Friends would not have you fear them and make you contemplate giving up your cats instead of talking to them. 


Edited by P3 and The King - 2/1/12 at 2:49am
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