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A New "Raw"some Beginning... (yup - another one LOL)
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I am doing the raw dance tonight !!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
!!!!!!!!!!!! Everyone (except Perla 
) had NM Chicken tonight!!!!!!!!!!! Of course, Walden, Wendall and Pipsqueak already LOVE NM chicken. BUT Perkins and Presley not so much. BUT TONIGHT.... those two boys had about 1 ounce each with fresh organic chicken breast!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO.... it is true.... if you just keep offering something that they originally refused, eventually they will believe you that it is edible :bigmouth: NOW - this does not mean they will love it tomorrow. I have learned that lesson well with Perla, Perkins and Presley. Perkins is starting to get the hang of this raw, though.
Perla is still off on her own planet. She is still being quite finickly lately. I have a plan now for when Krista comes in a couple of weeks to feed and I think it will work for Perla :cross: I am still in the planning stages. Walden and Wendall will be easy for Krista. The other four, will be a REAL challenge.
ANYHOO!! I am SO happy for tonight's dinner!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!! Everyone (except Perla ) had NM Chicken tonight!!!!!!!!!!! Of course, Walden, Wendall and Pipsqueak already LOVE NM chicken. BUT Perkins and Presley not so much. BUT TONIGHT.... those two boys had about 1 ounce each with fresh organic chicken breast!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO.... it is true.... if you just keep offering something that they originally refused, eventually they will believe you that it is edible :bigmouth: NOW - this does not mean they will love it tomorrow. I have learned that lesson well with Perla, Perkins and Presley. Perkins is starting to get the hang of this raw, though. Perla is still off on her own planet. She is still being quite finickly lately. I have a plan now for when Krista comes in a couple of weeks to feed and I think it will work for Perla :cross: I am still in the planning stages. Walden and Wendall will be easy for Krista. The other four, will be a REAL challenge.
ANYHOO!! I am SO happy for tonight's dinner!!!!!!!
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Great news that they all (well, except Perla
) ate some of that NM Chicken. I tried offering up some NM turkey once again the other day and it didn't go so well
. Apparently mine haven't changed their minds yet! I'm wondering why I am taking up precious freezer space with it
Can't wait to hear your plan on how to feed everyone when you're on vacation.
Can't wait to hear your plan on how to feed everyone when you're on vacation.
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OH OH OH
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OMG I just saw this NOW!!!!!!!!!!! Your just the best :lol3: Thanks for the laugh and all of the dancing chickens..... :rofl:- Thread Starter Thread Starter
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WELL..... Epigen 90 has a lot to do with my vacation plan :bigthumb: I just received the Epigen yesterday AND OMG all the cat's go bonkers for it. They have been practically attacking me to get more of the pellets. Wish they were that way with the raw :frusty: :frusty: Even Perla loves it, thank GOD, because she is the reason I bought that food. All the cats will be starting to eat this at bedtime to get them used to it. I am really pleased with the ingredients, the smell, the look (little pelletsGreat news that they all (well, except Perla
Can't wait to hear your plan on how to feed everyone when you're on vacation.
) and how happy my cats are to eat it. I will be having Krista feed Perla under our bed while we are gone, but this is no guarantee this will work and she will eat it while Krista is in the house
I cannot have Krista leave out the canned food for her because one of the other cats will eat it up. Perla always hides under our bed when anyone comes over. This way she will still (hopefully) be getting at least some wet food :cross: I will have Krista go into the bedroom first to give Perla the wet food and will have placemats set up for Perla under the bed. The problem is that the first day or so I am anticipating Perkins and Presley to be under the bed too. SO she will have to count cats under the bed and feed accordingly. I will have three different feeding placemats set out under the bed for the three scaredy cats. Then she will leave and shut the door behind her and go feed the others. I am assuming by day 2 that Perkins and Presley will be eating downstairs too..... :cross: But I know for sure Perla will hide under the bed for Krista's entire visit. I will also have Krista leave out bowls of the Epigen. I leave in two week's, so the cats will have time to adjust to the new food by then and hopefully not have any digestive upset in the process. Walden and Wendall will be eating in their foster room and will have bags made up of their raw meals. She will not be feeding the other's any raw, as it is too confusing and takes way too long to get then to eat. They will be eating canned food and the Epigen 90 that will be left out 24/7. Krista will have much more work and I am worried she will be overwhelmed, but she says she is perfectly capable and reassured me that all will be alright. But I am still sweating it 
OH AND
WILBUR LOVES the Epigen 90 too. It is for both cats and dogs. He absolutely went wild for his dinner tonight. Honestly, I have not seen that dog eat with such vigor in a very long time. AND I only used the pellets as a topper to his other raw meat. No hand feeding, no topper's, no nothing. This is an answer to a prayer for me, this Epigen for Wilbur. I know now he will eat during his stay at his K9 Kastle resort!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :high5: SUCH A RELIEF - you have no idea how happy I am. I am SO SO SO very scared and worried to leave Wilbur. This is the trip I had to cancel last Fall and reschedule for this May. I thought Wilbur was transitioning to the bridge last fall. BUT with the help of Ellen - animal communicator and Dr. Wessner - Holistic Vet - Wilbur still lives on and each and every day is truly a blessing. He IS THE most special dog of my life :heart3: :heart3: :heart3: P.S. I will update later my hilarious dinner smorgasbord of raw meats for the fussies. I have to run out for a bit. But will tell the confusing story later :smshfrk:
. I still don't understand what happened
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Oh Lauren, that is GREAT news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bigthumb: I know it's stressful - and this makes just one less thing to worry about (but a BIG thing! not to worry about!!).
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Thank YOU :sun: :heart2: See, the problem is with the three scaredy cats.... I cannot be assured IF they will come and eat the wet food that Krista leaves down.Oh Lauren, that is GREAT news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bigthumb:
She doesn't have an hour or two to spend fussing over them. AND IF she just leaves the wet food in six bowls.... guess who will eat up all of the food??? WALDEN AND WENDALL...... they will just gorge themselves sick, and be morbidly obese upon my return home. I could lock those two in the foster room for the duration... but that would be SOOOOOO mean and I can't do that. Wendall would get so stressed especially if we have storms. 
I have to leave my closet door open for him to go and hide. I have a special bed under a shelf in the closet and the shelf about 12 inches off the floor. He hides under the shelf during times when he is scared on the special bed. I cannot lock him in the foster room. He would be sick by the time I got home. AND I can't lock Perla in the foster room either. She would be so stressed too and have a Herpes flare-up. SUCH COMPLICATION.......
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Thank YOUSee, the problem is with the three scaredy cats.... I cannot be assured IF they will come and eat the wet food that Krista leaves down.She doesn't have an hour or two to spend fussing over them. AND IF she just leaves the wet food in six bowls.... guess who will eat up all of the food??? WALDEN AND WENDALL...... they will just gorge themselves sick, and be morbidly obese upon my return home. I could lock those two in the foster room for the duration... but that would be SOOOOOO mean and I can't do that. Wendall would get so stressed especially if we have storms.I have to leave my closet door open for him to go and hide. I have a special bed under a shelf in the closet and the shelf about 12 inches off the floor. He hides under the shelf during times when he is scared on the special bed. I cannot lock him in the foster room. He would be sick by the time I got home. AND I can't lock Perla in the foster room either. She would be so stressed too and have a Herpes flare-up. SUCH COMPLICATION.......
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Thanks
Yeah, I feel ok with the plan. This raw feeding makes it a dilemma when you have to go away. Especially, if you have some scaredy cats. I think that is partly why I am keeping them going with canned food and am happy to have found the ePIGen ( my cats are total PIGS for the stuff ) because at least, in my mind, that is the best dry kibble out there right now and I have no other choice unless I confine different groups of cats to separate rooms. I could do that, but I think that would cause great, great stress in all of my cats and then, as we know, I could return to sick cat's, and cat's that are so unhappy and insecure that my peaceful kitty home would change for the worse. You know?? There might be some inter-kitty relationship problems after that. Better to change their diet for a week while I am gone rather than have to confine and separate them just for diet management while I am gone. I am sure I am not the only one with this problem. Raw feeding, multiple cats and trying to take a vacation does not work so well. :lol3:
Lauren, where did you buy the epigen? I think I am going to switch Lucky for her downside.... For example.... Last week I got late for a feeding and she had acid throw up..... Took days to get over..... This trip she is on kibles, but I rather give epigen. I will be switching her back asap.....
Also, I don't know if I said anything..... I am sure some will turn heads.... But since mine a re not eating organs due to vomiting (they eat fd liver) I will start balancing their meats with wysong call of the wild. It is a sprinkle on supplement that balances the meat 100% with organs, bone/calcium, cartilage, taurine, vitamins, etc. It also has probiotics and enzymes, so if they like it it will ne great. Especially for Lucky- I feel her raw is not balanced at all.....
Also, I don't know if I said anything..... I am sure some will turn heads.... But since mine a re not eating organs due to vomiting (they eat fd liver) I will start balancing their meats with wysong call of the wild. It is a sprinkle on supplement that balances the meat 100% with organs, bone/calcium, cartilage, taurine, vitamins, etc. It also has probiotics and enzymes, so if they like it it will ne great. Especially for Lucky- I feel her raw is not balanced at all.....
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I am certain no one will turn heads here :lol3: - not to worry. I am feeding SO many different things in my household right now, my head is spinning off :spin: And I would not expect anyone to judge me either. Actually, I am getting very interested in Wysong all together. They even have raw diets, and freeze-dried raw diets like Archetype... I am curiously interested in what Wysong has to offer, diet and supplements alike :nod:
I ordered from Mr. Chewey's http://www.mrchewy.com/wysong-epigen-90-formula-dog-cat/dp/35370?utm_source=pricegrabber I also got a bag of the original Epigen - 60% meat/organs and quite similar to the 90 but much cheaper. 8 lb. for $15.99. It will certainly be great to have this food for when I have to travel and will bring me comfort knowing that the scaredy's will still be eating well. :nod: My cat's are just begging for this food. Even
rincess: Perla....
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GOLLY!!!!!!!!!! I have SOOOOO much to report. :lol3:
First off. PRESLEY LOVES HT GOAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No topper's, no mixers, no fussing!!!! Carolina...... do you remember when I said NOT to send me the HT Goat?? When we were trying to downsize the package... I swore no one would eat it. Well, even now Perkins is pigging out on it. ALSO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perkins LOVES the HT Quail and Pheasant 
I am SO shocked at how well the cat's are liking HT. OH EVEN THE rincess: ate some HT Pheasant this morning (1 Ounce) mixed with Weruva Mack/Jack of course AND sprinkled with Fortiflora AND I had to hand feed the last part with Fake Sprinkles. NOW that is talent, folks,.... Try hand feeding raw meat to a cat and at the same time fake sprinkling on a topper and trying to keep the other piggies at bay.
SO I will be definitely ordering from HT. It is so easy to mix in the Albutrin. I use one packed scoop with 1/2 cup of water for one pound of meat. Plus.... it is pretty darn cheap - the HT ground. I am just so happy to have some other meats for rotation. I am not going to order the Fegnion Rabbit now that the cat's seem to like the HT. I bet they would love the HT rabbit too :bigthumb:
OH ANOTHER HAPPY REPORT...... Pipsqueak is still loving RC Chicken and/or Turkey. This morning he ate 3 Ounces of Chicken He just laps it up, no toppers (in fact Pipsqueak hates toppers :lol3
no mixer's, nothing. Just plain raw meat. Who would have thunk it. I never thought Pipsqueak would ever eat raw meat PERIOD...
Walden and Wendall are doing just great - positively true carnies through and through. It doesn't matter what I offer them - they go for it each and every time - no hesitation. :heart3: :rub:
OH on the canned front... trying to find canned food that Perla likes and I am about to jump off the roof. She hates BG, Wellness (now), EVO (any). She is still stuck on fish.... I am trying though. OH funny thing, I offered the BG Chicken to my feral Willow this morning. He even walked away from it ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!! I guess no more BG in this household. I have been told straight away. 
First off. PRESLEY LOVES HT GOAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No topper's, no mixers, no fussing!!!! Carolina...... do you remember when I said NOT to send me the HT Goat?? When we were trying to downsize the package... I swore no one would eat it. Well, even now Perkins is pigging out on it. ALSO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perkins LOVES the HT Quail and Pheasant I am SO shocked at how well the cat's are liking HT. OH EVEN THE rincess: ate some HT Pheasant this morning (1 Ounce) mixed with Weruva Mack/Jack of course AND sprinkled with Fortiflora AND I had to hand feed the last part with Fake Sprinkles. NOW that is talent, folks,.... Try hand feeding raw meat to a cat and at the same time fake sprinkling on a topper and trying to keep the other piggies at bay.SO I will be definitely ordering from HT. It is so easy to mix in the Albutrin. I use one packed scoop with 1/2 cup of water for one pound of meat. Plus.... it is pretty darn cheap - the HT ground. I am just so happy to have some other meats for rotation. I am not going to order the Fegnion Rabbit now that the cat's seem to like the HT. I bet they would love the HT rabbit too :bigthumb:
OH ANOTHER HAPPY REPORT...... Pipsqueak is still loving RC Chicken and/or Turkey. This morning he ate 3 Ounces of Chicken
He just laps it up, no toppers (in fact Pipsqueak hates toppers :lol3 no mixer's, nothing. Just plain raw meat. Who would have thunk it. I never thought Pipsqueak would ever eat raw meat PERIOD... Walden and Wendall are doing just great - positively true carnies through and through. It doesn't matter what I offer them - they go for it each and every time - no hesitation. :heart3: :rub:
OH on the canned front... trying to find canned food that Perla likes and I am about to jump off the roof. She hates BG, Wellness (now
), EVO (any). She is still stuck on fish.... I am trying though. OH funny thing, I offered the BG Chicken to my feral Willow this morning. He even walked away from it ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!! I guess no more BG in this household. I have been told straight away.
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This is exactly why I am afraid to move to Frankenprey (if the time ever comes when they are ready
For anyone wanting Wysong, give them a call, not sure if it's still on but they were giving away cases of their venison canned food, it's cooked and not a complete diet (no calcium) but it's free lol, I got a couple cases for my dog. I feed their Arch 1 freeze dried to my ferrets, one needs to be fed before medicated 2x a day, it rehydrates very quick and they love it, never tried it on the cat. Their dream treats are a big hit around here as well.
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Seriously!! Wow. I wonder why they would do that with the canned venison. :scratch: I am not sure my cat's would like it - but my dog's might. Will give them a call. Thanks for the mention about the Archetype being easily rehydrated! That is a huge plus, especially for my dog, Wilbur. Both of my dog's and all of my cat's absolutely LOVE the Wysong ePIGen :lol3: I have never seen them so crazy for a dry food ever. YEAH - I saw the dream treats and was wondering about those
. Good to know! Thanks 
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Same here :anon: about going FP. BUT my cat's do get raw organic chicken (from Costco, breast and thigh) each day at dinner time mixed in with some canned. They are finally all enjoying it. Even Perla just started eating tiny pieces of it mixed in her canned. Pipsqueak totally refuses the raw chicken no matter how I cut it up for him or try to hide it.This is exactly why I am afraid to move to Frankenprey (if the time ever comes when they are ready
Anyway, I would be so worried about balancing the FP diet for my fussies, worrying that they are not getting everything necessary, especially if they don't finish a meal. I can guarantee that there will be days when my fussies will refuse to eat. AND they still are that way, depending on the day. I am still having some really nutso days over here :lol3: So I always have to have a fall-back plan each day and that is where the canned and Epigen come in. Hey.... it seems to be working just great for me and my babies at the moment!!! :cross: We are having really good raw eating days lately..... KNOCK WOOD 
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Carolina, the last thing any of us are is judgmental! We all just do our best!!!!!
As to the FP... I know how everyone feels. I just really had no choice - my fussies stopped eating the ground or commercially prepared stuff! :lol3: So far, they mostly eat it - it does take some fussing. But the bigger concern for me is when they throw it up!!!!! I THINK (knock wood) I've got that figured out. But if Tux and Shel can't keep that food down... I'll have to figure something else out too. :nod: :cross: KNOCK WOOD.
But one thing that will always be in this house is canned food. When Laz gets fussy, I "wipe" a little of Spooky's wet food on his chunks to get him to eat it. And if that's what it takes - that's what it takes!
The bottom line is that even Spooky, who is eating one meal of raw a day, is eating a MUCH better diet than she was. Even when we were on "100% canned timed meals," I had kibble in the house, and when they asked for it, they got some. But now she (overall) eats a better quality canned than she was - and if I had major kibble addicts that wouldn't eat wet, at least now we've got better kibble choices for them!!!! So no matter what - they're all eating better than they were, whatever form that food is! :nod:
Lauren? on the HT meats! Aren't they easy? OK - not as easy as just dethawing a patty - but the Alnutrin really IS easy to use!!!! And no veggies, no fruits - and beautiful meat! I'm so glad you're finding more proteins they like! :bigthumb:
BTW - when you order from HT, consider trying duck hearts. :nod: Turkey and duck heart are the absolute favorite meal of all the kitties here. (And it's just like handling meat - it's not like jelly pee or anything!!!!)
We all just do our best!!!!!As to the FP... I know how everyone feels. I just really had no choice - my fussies stopped eating the ground or commercially prepared stuff! :lol3: So far, they mostly eat it - it does take some fussing. But the bigger concern for me is when they throw it up!!!!! I THINK (knock wood) I've got that figured out. But if Tux and Shel can't keep that food down... I'll have to figure something else out too. :nod: :cross: KNOCK WOOD.
But one thing that will always be in this house is canned food. When Laz gets fussy, I "wipe" a little of Spooky's wet food on his chunks to get him to eat it. And if that's what it takes - that's what it takes!
The bottom line is that even Spooky, who is eating one meal of raw a day, is eating a MUCH better diet than she was. Even when we were on "100% canned timed meals," I had kibble in the house, and when they asked for it, they got some. But now she (overall) eats a better quality canned than she was - and if I had major kibble addicts that wouldn't eat wet, at least now we've got better kibble choices for them!!!! So no matter what - they're all eating better than they were, whatever form that food is! :nod:
Lauren?
on the HT meats! Aren't they easy? OK - not as easy as just dethawing a patty - but the Alnutrin really IS easy to use!!!! And no veggies, no fruits - and beautiful meat! I'm so glad you're finding more proteins they like! :bigthumb:BTW - when you order from HT, consider trying duck hearts. :nod: Turkey and duck heart are the absolute favorite meal of all the kitties here.
(And it's just like handling meat - it's not like jelly pee or anything!!!!)
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It expires in Oct, don't know if they just had a ton or what but a case is usually like $45 so for the cost of shipping only it's an awesome deal. If you get on there 100 truths newsletter they send out coupons in it as well, free shipping, $10 off, etc.Seriously!! Wow. I wonder why they would do that with the canned venison.I am not sure my cat's would like it - but my dog's might. Will give them a call. Thanks for the mention about the Archetype being easily rehydrated! That is a huge plus, especially for my dog, Wilbur. Both of my dog's and all of my cat's absolutely LOVE the Wysong ePIGenI have never seen them so crazy for a dry food ever. YEAH - I saw the dream treats and was wondering about those. Good to know! Thanks
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YES... we all just do our best and it can be a different approach for everyone and a completely different plan but we all have the same goal. A better overall healthful diet for our babies !!!!!!!!Carolina, the last thing any of us are is judgmental!
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You got that right and very well said :nod: All of our kitties are on the path to a better overall diet !!!!!!!!!!! And that is progress we can all be proud of I knowLauren?
BTW - when you order from HT, consider trying duck hearts. :nod: Turkey and duck heart are the absolute favorite meal of all the kitties here.
I am still in total shock over HT. I am having just as much luck with HT as I did with the RC AND at a much cheaper cost!!!!!! I will still buy some more RC but not go through it as fast next go around now that I can order the HT. OK - will try the hearts..... maybe..... :anon: It gives me the creeps 
:lol3: but what about the 
Do you have problems with the turkey or duck heart? Also, remember when I was "kinda" whining about not wanting to use HT BECAUSE I would have to mix in a supplement and I was worried I would screw something up 
????? :lol3: WELL, you were right.... it is SOOOOO simple and easy and actually really fun preparing the meat. I feel like I am making a meatloaf I usually have an audience too while mixing up the HT. The cats really love the smell of HT :high5:
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