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What could the kittens look like???

post #1 of 15
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Has anyone on this site breed a cream point himalayan (flat face) with a blue point himalayan?  Just wondering how this works with the kittens of this mixture of himalayans.

post #2 of 15

Not my breed or colours but I think you'd get Cream, Blue and Blue-cream

post #3 of 15
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Ok, just wondering...I thought the same but again, I wasn't sure if Himalayans are different.  My male is a cream point and so sweet. 

post #4 of 15

Are you planning on breeding your male?

post #5 of 15
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Originally Posted by missymotus View Post

Are you planning on breeding your male?



Do you belong to a Cat Association?

 

I suppose this blue pointed Himalayan (blue pointed persian) is the  fiancé you are thinking on?

Does her owners belongs to a cat club / association?

 

Stricktly formal it is the queens owners who are the responsible breeder.

 

Please, forward more info!    :)

post #6 of 15
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Originally Posted by Damatken View Post

Ok, just wondering...I thought the same but again, I wasn't sure if Himalayans are different.  My male is a cream point and so sweet. 



Being 'so sweet' is a very bad reason to breed a cat - for one thing almost all of them are 'so sweet' and the ones that aren't are usually 'great characters'.  Did he come from a breeder, with a pedigree?  Is he registered?  Is he registered for breeding - in the UK the main registry is the GCCF and most cats registered with it are on the inactive register so any kittens from them can't be registered, and anyone breeding such kittens would get called a BYB.

 

Is he free of PKD?  An absolutely vital question - Google will answer your questions about that one.

 

Keeping an entire male isn't for the faint of heart either.  Their urine stinks, most of them spray urine everywhere to scent mark, and they can be unpredictible especially if not getting enough 'work'.  The UK practice is to keep them in 'stud pens' in the garden.  A good one has an outside run, it's heated, has light, some have TV / radio / webcam, and most of them have a queens pen - a small pen within the main pen so they can get to know each other without any risk to either animal if they don't get on.  It's also fairly common in the UK for the stud & queen to be let run with each other once it's clear they are getting on.

 

post #7 of 15
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Both male and female are my cats.  Haven't had any spraying problems and they get along very well. 

post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 

Both came from breeders, both have been fully vet checked with blood work, both received a clear report, and both are getting along well.  Now, my male does have a strong urine odor however he has not sprayed up to the point.  He is 1.4 yo so still very young. They are strickly indoor cats which is safer for them in my area.  We are close to the woods with many wild animals roaming outside.  Just safer to remain inside. 

post #9 of 15

Just being purebreds is not enough, were they purchased as breeding cats? Meaning, are the breeders aware of your plans? Have you got a prefix registered?

Are the cats tested for PKD?

post #10 of 15

All excellent points... Do they have pedigrees?  Do the papers permit breeding?  As in, did the breeder give you breeding rights?  If not, it doesn't matter what the kittens look like because you can't get papers on them... They will be moggies as far as the paperwork goes even if they do come from pedigree parents.  Plus, if they came from the same breeder, they are not related, correct?  Have you had them genetically tested to rule out diseases? 

 

There is a lot of money and knowledge that goes into breeding... As in, YOU will spend a lot of money and have to know a lot in order to establish a successful breeding plan.  There's vet care, for the cats and kittens.  The money you will spend on food and care other than veterinary.  Are you prepared to make sure they all find good and loving homes... It means screening and lots of work on your part not just handing them over to the first people that show interests. 

 

There are so many back yard breeders in the world, those who don't really have the knowledge or care about the animals.  They do it for the money.  But, you can't sell the kittens without paperwork.  So, it would be useless to you.  This is not something you can go into lightly.  My guess is if they did come from a REPUTABLE breeder, you do not have breeding rights.  A reputable breeder would not give breeding rights to someone just starting out that has no idea what they are doing... If they did, they would be a mentor and monitor everything. 

post #11 of 15

Agreeing with the others here. You need breeding rights for the cats from their breeders.

Also bloodwork is not enough, you'll need a DNA-test for PKD. How have they been doing in the shows?

post #12 of 15
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.....This is the place for discussions about feline genetics, show etiquette, or any other breeding topic.  Seasoned breeders can share experiences and newbies are welcome to ask  ?????   Thank you for offering suggestions and advice. 

post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by Damatken View Post

Has anyone on this site breed a cream point himalayan (flat face) with a blue point himalayan?  Just wondering how this works with the kittens of this mixture of himalayans.



You will get bluetortie maybe lilactortie females and cream males :-)

 

post #14 of 15

I guess you think you are getting a hard time.  You are, because you have asked a vague question and also seem to be keeping an entire male and female in the same house without having really thought through if you are going to breed them.  In other words you come across as a potential BYB breeder.

 

You also haven't put the country you live in on your profile, at least that would give us a clue if you are not a native English speaker.

post #15 of 15
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Thank you Khin Mya for your thoughts. :)  Just one simple and to the point answer.   As I mentioned in my first post, I was just "wondering".     

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