How does this look.. Ringworm?

I was JUST coming to make a new thread, but since this is back up, I'll continue here.

His ears are doing better.. fur growing in and still dry spots along the edges, HOWEVER.. I believe it spread to his shoulders. See pic below. It's a perfect dime-sized circle with some spotted scabs in the center. Outside the bald spot along hair line is dry dandruffy skin. I don't think its a bite from Cassie because he'd still have fur there, right? he wouldn't be so bald? (I had to pull his skin up to both hold his fur back and hold him down). I noticed something was a bit odd on his back last night, but I didn't think much of it.. but tonight it struck me again and I took a closer look and saw this.

It isn't bothering him. He's not scratching or trying to get at the area.

And I am wondering if the 'scratch' above Cassie's eye is also RW. Her hair is thin, but not bald, and the area seems a bit swollen and it isn't healing as fast as a scratch to be. it's been slightly (slightly) worse in the week, not better.

I called the vet tonight to have her call me back in the morning. I hope she can just give me something without taking him in In the mean time, I'll put Lamisil on it and treat it like I did with the ears.



Adding Cassie's pic.. the area is a bit more red tonight:

Why not use the colloidal silver for the spot, since the Lamasil didn't seem to help with his ears? It'll work if it's ring worm/fungal or a bacterial problem.

As to Cassie's eye, I'll see if I can find the article again. But CS can be used at a strength of 50 - 100ppm in the eye (it also treats pink eye). If you purchased the 500ppm, you can dilute some of down to the lower strength with distilled water (most supermarkets and pharmacies carry distilled water). Soak a cotton ball with it, and gently apply it to her eye 4 - 5x a day.

I fussed too much with him tonight. I will put the CS on him in the morning. When I rubbed te Lamisil on him a chunk of fur came out easily

Decided to add updated pictures of Cassie from this morning (The other pic was from a few days ago). You can see it's slightly swollen too



I am pulling her eye back a bit here to see her eyelid

Spamming my own board, lol.

I spoke with the vet.. she suggested Revolution for them.. it takes care of all skin problems. I am very hesitant on it as I know flea products aren't the best for cats. She keeps reminding me that the culture came back negative.. then I told her that the RW was probably still in the environment and they could get it again. I sent her pics of everything with detailed email. Hopefully she can figure out whats going on and offer me something better. I will keep posted here.

Did you ask about CS, and was she familiar with it?

Please do keep us posted!

:cross: !!!!

She doesn't seem to know what Collodial Silver is, or if she does she didn't say much on it.

I like the vet a lot, she's knowledgable and very helpful and thorough, but she can seem pretty dense sometimes, lol.

Draco said:

Spamming my own board, lol.

I spoke with the vet.. she suggested Revolution for them.. it takes care of all skin problems. I am very hesitant on it as I know flea products aren't the best for cats. She keeps reminding me that the culture came back negative.. then I told her that the RW was probably still in the environment and they could get it again. I sent her pics of everything with detailed email. Hopefully she can figure out whats going on and offer me something better. I will keep posted here.

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Revolution doesn't take care of all skin problems.... I am confused about this statement.....
I am also confused about something..... Regardless of being ringworm or not, CS worked on the ears..... and has no side effects...... so why not use it on that? :dk:
To me it would make sense? and you have it on hands? Here is the thing with vets - they often don't think outside of the box.... :nod: That's not to say that something like CS won't work - it already showed it does...... So why try something else that might or might not work?
All my cats have reactions to revolution, and end up with wounds just like the ones you are showing in the picture BTW - and in the end, I always use CS on it..... :lol3:
Just something to think about it......................

oh I am using CS! I just want something to treat his entire body, not just as spots come up, you know what I mean?

Draco said:

oh I am using CS! I just want something to treat his entire body, not just as spots come up, you know what I mean?

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I would take a look at Revolution - because it doesn't take care of all skin issues...... so...... I am not sure it is the route I would go for that anyways.

Protects your pet from heartworms and fleas
• Fights both internal and surface parasitic infections
• Treats Sarcoptic mange in dogs
• Treats and controls ear mites
• Controls American Dog Tick infestation
• Treats and controls roundworms and hookworms in cats
• Only administered once a month
• Safe and easy to use

Carolina said:

I would take a look at Revolution - because it doesn't take care of all skin issues...... so...... I am not sure it is the route I would go for that anyways.
Protects your pet from heartworms and fleas
• Fights both internal and surface parasitic infections
• Treats Sarcoptic mange in dogs
• Treats and controls ear mites
• Controls American Dog Tick infestation
• Treats and controls roundworms and hookworms in cats
• Only administered once a month
• Safe and easy to use

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Would there be any negative effects? I don't want to buy it and try it and winds up hurting him and Cassie in the long run. I really should read up on revolution

Draco said:

Would there be any negative effects? I don't want to buy it and try it and winds up hurting him and Cassie in the long run. I really should read up on revolution

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Not serious..... I just get wounds like the one you are showing in the picture...... and they stick around for a good month or so..... it is strong..... So I don't like it - I just use it when I have a flea problem, which is very very rare - maybe once a year or so.
Have you considered this wound to just be a kitty fight? or just an itch of some sort that they scratch too much? Bugsy have those from time to time, but it is nothing really.... little CS and done....
That one looks different from the one on the ear :dk:

I don't think it's a wound since there's no puncture or broken skin and there's too much loss of fur. A wound wouldn't cause so much fur to come out, right? But there is a possibility of mites.. I'll have to research that and suggest it to the vet. Too bad we couldn't get a skin scraping few weeks ago What got me curious most of all is that it's currently in the one spot.. not multiple areas (That I could find anyway!)

I know I am probably overreacting and being paranoid, but I can't help it! I am such a meowmy!

Cassie looks like she's been kicked in the eye and it is slowly getting worse, compared to last week when I first noticed it. I thought it was a scratch from Monet (literally a bunny kick to the face), but it's not healing as it should for a scratch.

Here's a pic I took during lunch. I put the lamisil on last night with a drop of diluted bleach (and it didn't bother him it seems), and this morning I put the CS on. 



You know, it's the same area as the microchip.. I should check when I get home to see if it's still in him. I've heard microchips can fall out?

I just got off the phone with Dr. Saver.. and she said it definitely looks like ringworm. She's not 100% certain about Cassie, but is leaning towards RW too.

She won't give antifungal oral unless it gets worse and out of control.. but she did say to stop by and pick up some shampoo, so I will do that.

In the mean time, continue to spot-treat as I've been doing. It's just frustrating!

I am really sorry you are still battling this...... Cassie's eye area does look suspiciously like RW. A very common spot for it to be also . The hair is falling out too or thinning in that area? Looks that way in the picture. I don't understand why the vet recommends Revolution. Does she think it's mange or mites? Then she should have done a skin scraping first. I do not think it is either mange or mites. I would not waste the money on buying that right now unless you need it for flea control.

I have always treated ringworm very aggressively but I know others don't want to go that route. IMO.... Shaving, dipping and the oral meds are needed for the tough cases to clear it quickly and permanently. It can easily spread to other spots on the cat's body and shaving allows you to see any lesions that are not visible through the fur. Each spot must be treated. Plus, shaving the cat rids the chance of the hair follicle spores to spread around in the environment. Stops it dead in it's tracks. Just me, but I would be treating the RW with all guns pointed..... So to speak :lol3:. I wish there was an easy fix....and so understand your frustration

Feralvr - She probably thought it was something else and not RW by my description, but when she saw the pics she knew it was RW and quickly disregarded the revolution.
I want to treat it agressively. Do you shave even the short hair cats? I don't think I can afford to shave both cats now anyway. I'd probably at least shave Cassie since she's white and it's hard to see her skin with such thick fur.

I'll at least use the shampoo tonight, keep spot treating and hope it doesn't get out of control

I know this is so hard. I went through this many years ago with two kittens and one cat. They only had a few lesions on the head and shoulder area. There are two main reasons - well three - to shave. One - so the dips/baths are more effectively getting right on the skin and the cats dry quickly and won't get a chill. Two - So you can "spot" treat lesions easily as they are more visible and you must shave the hair around each and every lesion to expose it to light, very important (that will help kill the fungus too). Three - if the hair is so short - when the cat sheds - the infected hair spores will not fly around in the environment or shed off onto the floor thereby possibly re-infecting the cats again ....

I would shave both cats ...... They will LOOK so cute in their new haircuts. Don't worry - the hair will grow back - I promise. Unfortunately, they must be shaved with at least a number 15 blade or higher. I used a 30 blade - very close to the skin. I am, or was, a groomer back then so I did it myself. I know this is an expense - but I really think it will help to STOP the fungus. I can't remember - and ask the vet - but I think the only dip I used (it was cheap anyway) was a 20 - 1 bleach dip. 20 parts water to 1 part bleach. I made it up in a cleaned out milk carton and poured it over the cats in the sink. NOT on the HEAD :lol3:... I took a rag and swabbed the dip solution on the lesions that were on the head. NOT BY CASSIES eye though....you might want to still use the CS in that area :nod: The CS is effective against ringworm as we learned earlier from Carolina and Laurie . Anyway, to start the dipping process I began pouring the dip behind the ears so it ran downward - being very careful not to get it on the cat's head. This is NOT easy - especially with water and cats - but somehow I made it through it. I honestly don't remember if I did this twice weekly for two week's then once weekly for two week's. It is not everyday... again, your vet will help you. The shampoo is good too - I just found it much easier to dip rather than bathe the cats. Very quick this way. Let them air dry - don't towel off the dip, if you dip. Keep them very, very warm. I turned up the heat in the house because I do remember it was February - March when I had this problem too.

There are many new oral drugs as well - better ones than the Griseofulvin I used. But I think it is still available and prescribed today for severe cases. If the cat's have a good immune system - the RW will just go away on it's own even if you do nothing.... the problem.... those hair spores that are in the environment and could cause another outbreak . BUT not always will it just "run it's course" without medical intervention. MUCH MUCH MUCH luck - this will be alright - once you get a good plan of attack going :nod:

thanks feralvr!

I just got back from picking up the shampoo from the vet. Keto-Chlor or something. Its an antisceptic shampoo.. I left it in the car (as I had to get back to work). She strongly advised AGAINST shaving the cats unless it gets really bad. She thinks it isn't necessary at this point. Plus, I don't have the extra 200 bucks laying around to shave them either . She seemed really confident in the shampoo and spot treating.

When I get home, the both of them will be bathed. Should be fun... (not)

!!!!!

Hope the shampoo helps!

I'm not sure why you're using the Lamasil and bleach AND the colloidal silver, as the CS worked on his ears and the lamasil didn't... but whatever you decide to do, I hope this stops the cycle! :cross:

I am being aggressive, lol. Lamisil may not work 100% but it isn't hurting them. plus, I mix it with the CS to make it creamier so I can rub it into the skin better.