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post #91 of 117
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looks like the Plate Cone is going to work. She's struggling to groom, but she can't! I'll leave it on for about 10-15 minutes.. that should be long enough I'd think?

 

I just realized I have one dosage left of the CS.. and the one I ordered the other day hasn't been shipped yet. ugh.

 

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post #92 of 117
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Cassie's eye this morning. :( Monet is doing well.

 

Since I am out of CS, I'll have to use Lamisil until i get the other one in, hopefully this week

 

CassEye.jpg

post #93 of 117
vibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif AW Cassie's eye does look a little worse - I am sure she will start to recover soon though. The rubbing would be a problem and the plate cone is an excellent idea clap.gifclap.gif. Thinking of the kitties today smile.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif
post #94 of 117
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I read somewhere that RW tend to get worse before it gets better. Cassie's looking a little worse today.. spreading more and to the lower eye area and I can see the skin pink (not red and scabby, but pink) between her eye and ear. :(

 

The two of them had their second medicated shampoo bath last night. Monet was much more tolerable in the tub this time.. Cassie.. eh. lol.

 

She's so patient though! She let me put the paper plate cone on and off her without any quarrels at all, she sits while I rub the cream on her face without protest.. and she doesn't run away when I approach with the plate and cream. she just doesn't love the baths. She won't scratch or bite me, but she would try to get out of the tub. Few times she grabbed my arm, but never once did she dig her claws in my arm. She knows!

I just wish it'd clear up quickly. I am hating to see her look this way :( If it doesn't get better by friday, I'll call the vet again. I need to give it time.


At least, Monet's spot on his back hasn't gotten worse.. it's clear skin now, no redness, very tiny scabbing that's probably waiting to just fall off (I don't want to pick it off, knowing how sensitive skin are). We're just waiting for fur to grow back. His ears are doing well, still some dry spot along the edges, but better.

 

Does anyone have suggestions of what else I could try, aside from Lamisil, Collodial Silver and the medicated shampoo? i want to try to get a bit more aggressive with Cassie. I refuse to use diluted bleach so close to her eye.

 

I've heard apple cider vinegar, but I've never tried it?

post #95 of 117
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I read somewhere that RW tend to get worse before it gets better. Cassie's looking a little worse today.. spreading more and to the lower eye area and I can see the skin pink (not red and scabby, but pink) between her eye and ear. frown.gif

The two of them had their second medicated shampoo bath last night. Monet was much more tolerable in the tub this time.. Cassie.. eh. lol.

She's so patient though! She let me put the paper plate cone on and off her without any quarrels at all, she sits while I rub the cream on her face without protest.. and she doesn't run away when I approach with the plate and cream. she just doesn't love the baths. She won't scratch or bite me, but she would try to get out of the tub. Few times she grabbed my arm, but never once did she dig her claws in my arm. She knows!
I just wish it'd clear up quickly. I am hating to see her look this way frown.gif If it doesn't get better by friday, I'll call the vet again. I need to give it time.


At least, Monet's spot on his back hasn't gotten worse.. it's clear skin now, no redness, very tiny scabbing that's probably waiting to just fall off (I don't want to pick it off, knowing how sensitive skin are). We're just waiting for fur to grow back. His ears are doing well, still some dry spot along the edges, but better.

Does anyone have suggestions of what else I could try, aside from Lamisil, Collodial Silver and the medicated shampoo? i want to try to get a bit more aggressive with Cassie. I refuse to use diluted bleach so close to her eye.

I've heard apple cider vinegar, but I've never tried it?

Are you sitll diluting the CS by mixing it with Lamisil? If yes, it will not work as well, just as an FYI - it works well at 500ppm directly on the skin, used 5-6x a day, just like it worked well for his ears agree.gif

I really wouldn't use bleach on their skins.... but then that's me dontknow.gif If it burns my skin, I can not even imagine what is does to theirs.... frown.gif
Aside from that, you can do oral meds.... You need to talk to your vet..... That might be your best bet - I was against it, as it can affect the liver.
Know that, worst comes to worst, ringworm does run its course. It is a nuisance, but it is not the end of the world. It is not harmful for them in any way, shape or form.... they are not sick. So take a deep breath, and know that things are going to be alright alright.gif
It can take time..... But it will be alright hugs.gif
post #96 of 117
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Are you sitll diluting the CS by mixing it with Lamisil? If yes, it will not work as well, just as an FYI - it works well at 500ppm directly on the skin, used 5-6x a day, just like it worked well for his ears agree.gif
I really wouldn't use bleach on their skins.... but then that's me dontknow.gif If it burns my skin, I can not even imagine what is does to theirs.... frown.gif
Aside from that, you can do oral meds.... You need to talk to your vet..... That might be your best bet - I was against it, as it can affect the liver.
Know that, worst comes to worst, ringworm does run its course. It is a nuisance, but it is not the end of the world. It is not harmful for them in any way, shape or form.... they are not sick. So take a deep breath, and know that things are going to be alright alright.gif
It can take time..... But it will be alright hugs.gif


Thanks Carolina :) I know I am probably over-reacting! I know they're not in pain or anything (though Cassie is rubbing a bit more than usual), and I know they're not sick and it's not life-threatening.. I just hate to see them look like this, especially Cassie who looks like she got punched in the eye by a heavy-weight champ.

 

I am trying to knock it out quickly for another reason too. My nieces are coming by next month to spend a few days with me to celebrate the cats' birthdays (yes, I throw birthday parties for the cats, lol).. they're young (2, 4 and 6) and the last thing I want is for THEM to get RW! I'd never hear the end of it from my sister, lol. PLUS, I ordered them a brand new tall cat tree, and I am eager to set it up for them! lol. I'll have to be patient and wait for the RW to go away. I've been cleaning the apartment with lysol and bleach every other day or so, in each corner and such. I've been vacuuming twice a day, and I have my HEPA air purifier set to full blast to suck in the spores.

 

I am out of CS, the one I ordered on thursday shipped today. Estimated arrival is the 13th-15th (though Amazon said 3-5 days.. I hope it comes quickly! For now I am using just Lamisil and bathing with Keto-Chlor shampoo (though I can't use the shampoo on her face) I mix the CS with Lamisil, because I don't want the 500ppm CS to drip into her eye. The Lamisil helps hold it in place, and it's easier for me to rub into the skin.

 

I am almost wondering if I should just stop for a day or so, just stop fussing with her so much? Just give her face a good cleaning and leave her alone?

 

post #97 of 117
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My vet called to see how the cats are doing. I told her Cassie is getting worse, and she's willing to prescribe Fluconazole.

 

http://petsmd.com/RX/Cats-And-Dogs/Fluconazole

 

I am going to pick it up tomorrow, but not give it to her just yet. I want to wait a few more days to see if she improves.. if not, I'll start giving it to her. I'll find out more of the dosage and how to give it to her tomorrow 

 

 

post #98 of 117
Hopefully you won't need it, but if you do, at least you'll have it. agree.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif
post #99 of 117
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Are you sitll diluting the CS by mixing it with Lamisil? If yes, it will not work as well, just as an FYI - it works well at 500ppm directly on the skin, used 5-6x a day, just like it worked well for his ears agree.gif
I really wouldn't use bleach on their skins.... but then that's me dontknow.gif If it burns my skin, I can not even imagine what is does to theirs.... frown.gif
Aside from that, you can do oral meds.... You need to talk to your vet..... That might be your best bet - I was against it, as it can affect the liver.
Know that, worst comes to worst, ringworm does run its course. It is a nuisance, but it is not the end of the world. It is not harmful for them in any way, shape or form.... they are not sick. So take a deep breath, and know that things are going to be alright alright.gif
It can take time..... But it will be alright hugs.gif

I do agree with Carolina.... the bleach dip I was told to use was twenty five years ago and it was a 32:1 mixture. I know I mentioned this to try earlier - but you must always run ANYTHING past your vet before you try a remedy to cure the RW. Of course, times and remedies change over the years and new improved methods are available. I know at the shelter they use the Lime Sulfur dips. I would go with what ever your own vet is recommending to use agree.gif

It is true that the RW will run it's course in a matter of three month's. BUT if a cat has a deficient immune system - then they will need help killing the fungus. Let's just hope that they WILL get over this quickly now and the bathes along with the Diflucan will do the trick. cross.gif More vibes for your sweet kitties and more hugs for you vibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifhugs.gifhugs.gifhugs.gifhugs.gifhugs.gif
post #100 of 117
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Thanks Carolina smile.gif I know I am probably over-reacting! I know they're not in pain or anything (though Cassie is rubbing a bit more than usual), and I know they're not sick and it's not life-threatening.. I just hate to see them look like this, especially Cassie who looks like she got punched in the eye by a heavy-weight champ.
This is probably the Lamisil more than the ringworm - lamisil is strong and it irritates their skin - it was very strong for Lucky, reason why I stopped using it agree.gif
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I mix the CS with Lamisil, because I don't want the 500ppm CS to drip into her eye. The Lamisil helps hold it in place, and it's easier for me to rub into the skin.
There is no reason for you to do this, and I wouldn't put lamisil anywhere close to her eyes - I don't even know if that is safe to begin with. All you have to do is dilute the CS. Go to CVS, or Walmart, anywhre, get a bottle of distilled water for a couple of bucks. for each dropper of CS, put 9 of distilled water. Now you have CS at 50ppm. Easy enough. Now you can put that into a cotton ball and wipe her eye with that safely and you will not be irritating her skin.... IMHO much more effective, and much safer.....
post #101 of 117
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I stopped the Lamisil last night.. gave her face a good washing with a small bit of regular cat shampoo and left her alone, not applying anything on at all. I want to see how she does without me fussing with it with all sorts of things. Maybe its what she needs.. nothing. The vet will have to mail me the anti-fungal pills.. by the time I get it, I'll see how she is and see if she still needs it or not. If she doesn't, I'll save the pills just in case if I need it in the future (lets hope not!!) The CS will be here eventually. hopefully this week. I wish my pharmacies sell them locally!


The vet said its OK to put Lamisil around her eye, but be careful not to get it IN her eye.

 

I got pill pockets for the cats to try 250 mg of Lysine again (vet suggested boosting the immune system). Monet gobbled the pill pocket with the pill up right away.. Cassie ignored it, she only likes regular greenies treats.. she doesn't like any other kinds of treats, especially the soft ones. I had to make her eat the pill (which she tolerated). Next time it'll be crushed in her food.

 

Tomorrow will be their 3rd bath with the Keto-Chlor. I like this shampoo.. their fur is SO soft when they dry!

 

I wonder.. since Monet is doing better, and Cassie is still iffy, can Monet get worse again as Cassie gets better, and vice versa? Can they continue to give it to each other and be an endless cycle? My mom brought this up and made me wonder.

 

And just because it's a cute picture (got the reindeer costume for 3 bucks at Petco.. couldn't resist!) It doesn't fit her right, the hood doesn't stay on her head. it's made for dogs.

CassHoodie.jpg

post #102 of 117
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i wasn't sure last night, but I can see now, for sure, it's spread to her other eye :( now below both eyes. not a lot, but noticable. My poor baby

 

And I got the CS today. thank goodness it came quickly!!


Edited by Draco - 2/8/12 at 10:50am
post #103 of 117
If the diluted CS doesn't start to clear it up quickly, I'd probably give her the Fluconazole. agree.gif

vibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif !!!!!
post #104 of 117
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I THINK its doing better? I can't tell.. certainly not worse. I am not seeing the spots under the eyes anymore, but I am still putting CS there anyway.

 

they had another bath tonight. I couldn't get Monet since he shedded so much and I didn't want fur on my camera! But I got a few of Cassie's bath, lol

 

Cassiebath.jpg

 

Really, Meowmy?

CassBath2.jpg

post #105 of 117
Oh the poor wet, unhappy baby! hugs.gifhugs.gifrub.gif

(Sorry, I really couldn't help but giggle though. Please don't tell her! )
post #106 of 117
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Just an update.

 

Monet is doing very well. his fur is growing back nicely in the patch, and no new lesions appeared (knock wood!!)

 

Cassie is also doing better. Not 100% yet, but an improvement. her eye isn't swollen much, it's almost round again! The skin is looking white as it should, not as pink. She still has some crusties that cleans off when I clean her face, but appears again a few hours later. Not as bad as it was a week ago. No other lesions popped up for her either (knock wood!). The spots under here eyes never grew worse.. you can see a bit of hair loss on the corner of her other eye. Here's a pic from this morning, before cleaning and CS (her fur is stained from the CS in some areas.. oops):

 

CassEye2.jpg

 

Doesn't she have the most beautiful eyes?!

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CassEye2.jpg


You know this photo is just begging for a caption over on icanhascheezburger, right?

 

post #108 of 117
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Lol. I will take another when she's all healed up and try there!
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clap.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gif SO happy happy2.gif to read about the improvements in both Money and Cassie. AWWW that close-up is precious. Her eye does look much better. Good job on your part caring for your kids. For continued improvement vibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif
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clap.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gif SO happy happy2.gif to read about the improvements in both Money and Cassie. AWWW that close-up is precious. Her eye does look much better. Good job on your part caring for your kids. For continued improvement vibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif

clap.gifclap.gifclap.gif Oh such a relief!

And YES - she has the most beautiful eyes! heartpump.gif

So did you ever end up giving either of them the fluconazole?

Continued vibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif for complete healing and NO MORE RING WORM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
post #111 of 117
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thanks you two!

 

I am giving them both 25 mg of the pills.. recommended dose is 50-100, but because they aren't severe and are healing, the vet suggested cutting the pill in half to help speed things up a little more and help knock it out of their system.. kinda ensuring it doesn't come back (hopefully). Today was their 4th day on it, she suggested for a least a week on it.

post #112 of 117
cross.gif For a speedy recovery now !!!!!!! I think this will finally do it for your babies and they will be RW free very, very soon happy2.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif
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cross.gif For a speedy recovery now !!!!!!! I think this will finally do it for your babies and they will be RW free very, very soon happy2.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif


Let's hope!! This is very tiring!

 

Cassie is looking better still. The area is still pinkish, but not crusty anymore.. that's a huge improvement from a week ago! I am still applying CS on her.

post #114 of 117
Keep going hun, you're almost there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tiring yes... but hopefully this knocks it out for good! And yes, keep up the CS - seems everything combined is really working! vibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif
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Let's hope!! This is very tiring!

Cassie is looking better still. The area is still pinkish, but not crusty anymore.. that's a huge improvement from a week ago! I am still applying CS on her.

clap.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gif YAY so glad that there is even more improvement. You are doing great and soon cross.gif this will all be behind you, Monet and Cassie rub.gifrub.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif
post #116 of 117
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Updated photo. looking better :) Don't mind the stained fur from the CS! I can't tell if I am seeing hair regrowth or not yet

 

 

eyeese.jpg

post #117 of 117
Oh it is!!!! clap.gifclap.gifclap.gif Keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know it feels like it's slow going..... but it IS going!!!!!!!!!!!!! biggthumpup.gif
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