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post #31 of 52
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Thanks Crumbandharvey and Meuzettesmom for your replies. biggrin.gif Good idea for the water, Crumband harvey. biggthumpup.gif Thanks for rescuing Meuzette, Meuzettesmom. Ew, cottage cheese. crazy.gif The day you had the heart to care for that strangely kitty that other people probably just looked at as "just a nasty stray" was definitely the best day of that kitty's life. hugs.gif And now she looks like a show cat as well.

post #32 of 52

I use to have a friend who shown Siamese cats. Before a show, to reduce, the cats she was going to show. She would feed cottage cheese. She was the one who told me when they get old she feeds baby food to them. So I do with my old ones that need it.

post #33 of 52
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Haha, old wives tales for cats! lol2.gif Those sound like two good ideas. biggthumpup.gif

post #34 of 52

Well, I have never heard of peanut butter being good for cats.. my dog Dixie loves it though. My cats get nibbles of human food here and there but not often. Like they like chicken a lot but they only get a little. They get good food and cat treats every day so they don't need all the human food to be spoiled. Some greasy human foods are bad for cats and dogs or ones in high fat or sodium.. it can cause pancreaitis. I am very careful what foods my cats and dogs get as far as human food goes. I will share tuna fish or bits of chicken w/ them. Miagi has a thing for cheerios, popcorn, and chips. But it doesn't mean he gets it all the time. :)

post #35 of 52
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Thanks for the helpful reply, Miagi! =)

post #36 of 52

I have no idea if its good for her but my cat truly loves turky that I buy for my sandwiches at the store. I buy think sliced turky and she absolutly loves it. I usualy tear off a couple of peices from the slices I put on my sandwiches. She loves it so much when she hears the fridge open she comes running and is very disapointed when I don;t get out the package of turkey

post #37 of 52

 Wow, I didn't know they could have P.B. Good to know.  I thought (heard) that all nuts were toxic to

cats. I know there are a lot of human foods they can not have. (garlic, onion,avacado...) & ( I know cats & dogs are both naturally lactose intolerant.)  Found this list, but have seen more extensive list before. (from a pet news letter).  Hope this is helpful!  :)                                                                                                                                                                                         

ASPCA | People Foods to Avoid Feeding Your Pets

post #38 of 52

Can you help me. I cooked boiled chicken and carrots without any salt or seasonings for my cats but they don't like chicken at all. There are also no good canned food in my area, only whiskas and fancy feast are available which I know is not good to feed to my cats. What other meat should I buy that I can cook that is ok for cats?

post #39 of 52

Have you tried turkey?  If they don't like chicken, not sure if they will like turkey, but worth a try. What about liver?  I'm pretty sure they can eat liver. I buy Angel Natural Balance & they have chicken & liver, Turkey & liver etc..   You can look in the nutrition forum for more advice & ideas. Good luck! :)

 

P.S. If you can find nutritional yeast anywhere (usually a health food store) Sprinkling that on the food could help too. The vet has me doing this because it has B vitamins. It has a yummy cheesy taste. (I love to sprinkle it on salads myself, or in place of Parmesan cheese).

post #40 of 52

O.K. guys, found the artical w/ the foods for pets to avoid. It's from Every Day Health. I get thier pet news letter. Lots of good info, you should check it out! :)

http:www.everydayhealth.com/pet-health/dangerous-foods-for-your-pet.aspx

post #41 of 52
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Originally Posted by werra View Post

Can you help me. I cooked boiled chicken and carrots without any salt or seasonings for my cats but they don't like chicken at all. There are also no good canned food in my area, only whiskas and fancy feast are available which I know is not good to feed to my cats. What other meat should I buy that I can cook that is ok for cats?

Have you tried giving her chopped up raw chicken? She make like that better than cooked (my cats aren't huge fans of chicken, but love rabbit, and a lot of cats love turkey). You can basically feed her ANY raw meat. Cats are carnivores, and their digestive systems is built to get the nutrition they need from raw food. Unlike dogs, they don't have the ability to convert a number of vitamins and amino acids into a usable format for their bodies. Carrots, for instance. They get NO vitamin A from carrots, they lack the digestive enzymes necessary to convert beta carotene into Vitamin A. They can't synthesize taurine or arginine from their amino acid building blocks the way dogs and humans can, the MUST get it either from animal flesh or as a supplement.

If you look at canned foods or kibble, you'll see that there is a long list of supplements. This is because when you cook meat, many of the nutrients are rendered either unusable or are reduced greatly in quantity. So the vitamins and amino acids have to be added back in. But if you give your cats raw meat, they get all those nutrients they need. agree.gif

Of course, to feed them ONLY raw food (which you CAN), you do have to do it correctly. It needs to be done with the proper balance of muscle meats, bone and organs, and it is very important to rotate proteins (chicken, turkey, lamb, rabbit, etc.). If you're going to treat it like a "treat," it's safe to give up to 15% of their food as "unbalanced" (not nutritionally complete) stuff.

Here are some resources if you're interested: http://www.thecatsite.com/t/240809/raw-feeding-resource-thread
post #42 of 52
BTW - raw meat is even better if it's not chopped up. It's just that cats used to eating canned food usually won't eat chunks just because they're not used to the chewing. You have to work up to that. laughing02.gif
post #43 of 52

How come they don't can mouse meat or bird? Or make it easier for us lazy types to feed raw food?

Lol, should I put that in someones suggestion box?

post #44 of 52
Actually, they do make commercial raw - it's just frozen, not canned. smile.gif It's very easy to feed nutritionally balanced raw meals these days (in the US and Canada, anyway), without having to figure out the right proportion of meat/bone/organs if making homemade. smile.gif The proteins are still based on food that's available for human consumption (chicken, turkey, lamb, venison, rabbit, etc). The difference is that it's made from human food-grade, and typically in at least close-to-proportions (of meat/bone/organ) that you would find in a mouse or bird. Some of the raw foods are made from whole prey (if rabbit), and some people do feed whole prey diets, as things like mice or other small rodents are available for feeding snakes.

Here's a resource thread: http://www.thecatsite.com/t/240809/raw-feeding-resource-thread

And here's a discussion on commercial raw food options: http://www.thecatsite.com/t/239950/questions-about-commercial-raw

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post #45 of 52
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Actually, they do make commercial raw - it's just frozen, not canned. smile.gif It's very easy to feed nutritionally balanced raw meals these days (in the US and Canada, anyway), without having to figure out the right proportion of meat/bone/organs if making homemade. smile.gif The proteins are still based on food that's available for human consumption (chicken, turkey, lamb, venison, rabbit, etc). The difference is that it's made from human food-grade, and typically in at least close-to-proportions (of meat/bone/organ) that you would find in a mouse or bird. Some of the raw foods are made from whole prey (if rabbit), and some people do feed whole prey diets, as things like mice or other small rodents are available for feeding snakes.
Here's a resource thread: http://www.thecatsite.com/t/240809/raw-feeding-resource-thread
And here's a discussion on commercial raw food options: http://www.thecatsite.com/t/239950/questions-about-commercial-raw
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yeah.gif quite easy to feed commercial raw, actually agree.gif the food comes ready.... just frozen.... all you do is defrost and serve. You just need to be careful with safe handling, of course - same way you handle raw meat agree.gif
The consistency is similar to canned food, so easy to kitties to take to it....
Awesome food, really - I am loving it, and my kitties are having outstanding results from it. Best thing I have done for them biggthumpup.gif
post #46 of 52
Hi, Aristotle! What an interesting discussion! Peanut butter? Toast? I never thought you guys give such a treat for your cats there?? laughing02.gif

A little advice, take them off. Don't give them p/b & toast. It do no good for cats smile.gif

A canned tuna w/out salt is okay for treat sometimes. Sardines too. But not too much, since fishes are high in magnesium, which could lead to urinary problem, you might only want to give it just a little bit every weeks. (cats are associate with fishes just because fishes are smelly & they love the smell. While actually, lions don't eat fiahes, no? biggrin.gif)

Take off the olive oil too. It's definitely no good for cats. I've read it somewhere that it even is poisonous for cats. If you want to give oils for extra treats/smells/supplement, agree with LDG, give them fish oil/salmon oil, or raw virgin coconut oil. I don't know if you could find the last one easily there, but in my country, it's common in most drugstore. It's made from coconut meat, the color is like water, white transparent, & smells coconut-y. Not the typical coconut oil for cooking (which is yellow in color). This raw virgin coconut oil is good for hairball remedy, good for coats & could treat scabies (just put it on the affected areas). You could give them straight or mix it with their wetfood smile.gif the raw coconut oil just need 1 teaspoon each day, if still <1years, give them just a half of it smile.gif

I do follow many advice of giving yogurt, just started around 2 days ago & just a tidbit of it twice a day, before meal. He loves it. I just give him around 1/4 - 1/2 teaspoon per serving smile.gif

Yolk of an egg is very good for them too. Especially if you want to increase their weight. 2-3 raw yolk per week is more than enough. But don't give them the white parts. I usually pour boiling water over it before serve it to my kitten. Just in case, better safe than sorry, the salmonella things. smile.gif if you could find omega-3 eggs there, it will be much better too smile.gif

Last but not least, you may give natural honey to them. But not too much, just around 1/4 teaspoon is enough & just few times per week. & do great for cats that is sick / still in recovery of sickness because the honey give extra stamina smile.gif i usually mixed the honey with the cooked food i made for my kitty smile.gif
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Originally Posted by werra View Post

Can you help me. I cooked boiled chicken and carrots without any salt or seasonings for my cats but they don't like chicken at all. There are also no good canned food in my area, only whiskas and fancy feast are available which I know is not good to feed to my cats. What other meat should I buy that I can cook that is ok for cats?


Have you tried to torn them up? I usually torn the boiled chicken meat for my kitty. & mixed them up with a spoonfull of cheap-wetfood for cats to wake their appetite up. (usually cheaper brands like Whiskas have a great smell) you might also want to take off the carrots. They don't eat carrots in the wild biggrin.gif especially if the carrot still high in vit A. Too much vit A can be bad for them smile.gif oh & don't served the cooked bone, okay? biggrin.gif
Edited by Silverleica - 2/3/12 at 8:31pm
post #47 of 52
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Originally Posted by Silverleica View Post

Have you tried to torn them up? I usually torn the boiled chicken meat for my kitty. & mixed them up with a spoonfull of cheap-wetfood for cats to wake their appetite up. (usually cheaper brands like Whiskas have a great smell) you might also want to take off the carrots. They don't eat carrots in the wild biggrin.gif especially if the carrot still high in vit A. Too much vit A can be bad for them smile.gif oh & don't served the cooked bone, okay? biggrin.gif

Actually, cats don't have the digestive enzymes necessary to convert beta carotene in carrots into Vitamin A. laughing02.gif Carrots are simply a filler/fiber in cat food.
post #48 of 52
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Originally Posted by LDG View Post

Actually, cats don't have the digestive enzymes necessary to convert beta carotene in carrots into Vitamin A. laughing02.gif Carrots are simply a filler/fiber in cat food.

I see! I thought they could convert it to vit A.. Thanks for the correction! smile.gif
post #49 of 52
If you want to learn more about cat nutrition, there are a number of excellent resources in this thread: http://www.thecatsite.com/t/240809/raw-feeding-resource-thread

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post #50 of 52

Apologies - but "canned chicken"????

 

I have never heard of such a thing. Am amazed any cat would want to go anywhere near it. Yuk.

 

Again, apologies - must be a cultural thing. Chicken in a can.... in a salad.....

post #51 of 52

To go back to the orginal question, cats do not need anything "extra" in their diets apart from meat. I can say in all honesty that my cat has no interest in any form of "human" food.

 

He does not beg or even sniff at anything that i leave out - unless its raw meat.

 

Maybe other cats that have expressed an interest in human meat based products are trying to tell you something????

 

In regards to the salomella question that keeps cropping up . What is this fear? Yes, my cat is fed a raw diet, BUT i handle raw meat to feed my family a few times a week. For human or cat, the meat is treated the same way when i prepare it. Clean hands and lots of very hot soapy water to clean up afterwards.

 

My point has nothing to do with feeding raw to cats, but this odd fear of handling raw meat full stop.  Do people not cook anymore? ie not from a can?????

 

 

post #52 of 52

Ok thanks I will try to do that. My cats will not vomit or something? because I did that to my dogs before and they had stomach upset. I will try to give them liver, but What kind of liver is it chicken or pork? Can I also feed them beef?

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