Colloidal Silver usage for cats' health in some occasions?

Carolina said:

Hi Nadia, how is little May doing?
I am going to bed now, but will be waiting for an update from you..... please let me know, ok?

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Thank you Carolina.

Perhaps too early for an update...

But this morning she seemed to me less active comparing to all the excitement I had yesterday.

She is sleeping mostly today and her temperature at 7:00am was only 39 - almost normal. (I take her temperature myself).

She ate well at night (I know because I didn't sleep well and my hubby didn't sleep well, so we were able to see her eating).

She ate quite a bit in the morning, but not as much as yesterday.  But I can already feel that she is not so emaciated and she is gaining weight.

I'm just scared because now it would be due for her other shot of dexamethasone which she is not getting now - and before it was what made her appetite good.

Maybe I'm fussing too much - a cat needs to sleep sometimes...  All my other kitties are sleeping too just the same.

Surely, she can't eat all the time...?  Still it's beef fillets and beef stroganoff she eats. (Raw of course).  Well, a bit of wet commercial too.  But raw muscle meat (especially beef) makes their own muscles to develop better?  That I read from one of the links from your thread in the raw forum.  Perhaps she knows what she is doing.

I should just trust her, shouldn't I?

I flushed her with CS twice today in the morning, and there was hardly anything from a wound, but the top of the wound is getting smaller.

I just have to keep my fingers/paws crossed and see what happens.

Anyways, vets don't work on Sundays and I hope so much that I don't have to take her in on Monday too, because that would mean resuming her on drugs.

Please Colloidal Silver - just work for my little May!!!

It all sounds wonderful news to me hun!!!
She is eating, sleeping, the wound is getting better, the fever is down..... It all sounds excellent to me!

Continuous use of steroids do not come without a price.... They do have side effects....
Also know that one of the side effect of the steroid IS depression - it can make them very sleepy - and that side effect can take a while to go away.
They do not need to eat a lot when they are on raw - but again - you should make sure it is a balanced meal, with organs and bones, etc....... if she is in it for the long haul, which I hope she is!! :bigthumb:
Keep going hun!!! Keep going strong - sounds like she is doing a-ok!

Hi Nadia, How is she doing today?

Carolina said:

Hi Nadia, How is she doing today?

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Today she is mostly normal.  I didn't even bother her with taking her temperature.

Even though I worried sick yesterday, because she was due for her dexamethasone, but later in the evening she became so active, she even went onto the roof of our house!!!

Of course, there is an easy way for them to go there - I made an easy climbing spot for them in-front of our veranda.

But for May - this means putting a lot of pressure of her leg, but she insisted.  In-fact - I read that serious exercise is desired in slow healing wounds to bring more blood circulation into the area, providing there is no drastic infection.

I believe there is no infection now as such - there is NOTHING coming out of the wound during flushes I do with CS.

Today she is just so much happier - still eats so much!  I guess she now tries to recover all she has lost.  Her body becoming stronger and she is ready to fight.

It's a third day without drugs and she seems to do better and better.  I'm not taking her to vets tomorrow, but will inform my vets on her progress as they said I should do.

Tomorrow I have to go to work (6:00am to 11:00am or 12:00noon - I've neglected it already so much (they'll understand).  So I'm so much happier to leave her without me for 5 hours in the morning.

Thank you so much Carolina for caring.  Will post more updates each day.

PS: I also believe that your healing vibes and those of others work too.  We are now so hopeful with May's progress.

Here are couple of pictures of May on a roof from before (about a year ago):

This is quite a bad picture, but she was over-playful and slipped whilst getting down from the roof.

Now she just steps carefully from the roof onto this scratch-chair.



Here she just sits on a roof of the veranda (+/- one meter from the top of this structure)

The top of the roof in the horizon behind her here is where she likes to go and sit.

And here you can see her sitting on that chair and the roof above her head:

Ambermay said:

Today she is mostly normal.  I didn't even bother her with taking her temperature.
Even though I worried sick yesterday, because she was due for her dexamethasone, but later in the evening she became so active, she even went onto the roof of our house!!!
Of course, there is an easy way for them to go there - I made an easy climbing spot for them in-front of our veranda.
But for May - this means putting a lot of pressure of her leg, but she insisted.  In-fact - I read that serious exercise is desired in slow healing wounds to bring more blood circulation into the area, providing there is no drastic infection.
I believe there is no infection now as such - there is NOTHING coming out of the wound during flushes I do with CS.

Today she is just so much happier - still eats so much!  I guess she now tries to recover all she has lost.  Her body becoming stronger and she is ready to fight.
It's a third day without drugs and she seems to do better and better.  I'm not taking her to vets tomorrow, but will inform my vets on her progress as they said I should do.

Tomorrow I have to go to work (6:00am to 11:00am or 12:00noon - I've neglected it already so much (they'll understand).  So I'm so much happier to leave her without me for 5 hours in the morning.

Thank you so much Carolina for caring.  Will post more updates each day.

PS: I also believe that your healing vibes and those of others work too.  We are now so hopeful with May's progress.

Here are couple of pictures of May on a roof from before (about a year ago):

This is quite a bad picture, but she was over-playful and slipped whilst getting down from the roof.
Now she just steps carefully from the roof onto this scratch-chair.


Here she just sits on a roof of the veranda (+/- one meter from the top of this structure)
The top of the roof in the horizon behind her here is where she likes to go and sit.

And here you can see her sitting on that chair and the roof above her head:

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Yey Nadia!!!

I am sorry it took so long to respond.... I got this on my phone last night, but could not respond from it until I came to the computer this morning..... It sure gave me a good night of sleep!!!!
I am SO happy for you and May!!!!


And Oh my Lord she is just such a beauty
Awesome Awesome pictures!
Just keep doing your flushes until the wound is completely healed...... I am confident this is it - this is your ticket Nadia :cross:

Colloidal Silver has saved me and my babies every single time - not once, not once one of us got an infection here.... Cat bites can be nasty for example..... and I have had many - Put a bandage of CS on it, wrap it securely, and when I take it off it is nice and healed. I always inspect the kitties - any wounds, I put CS - never progressed to anything. I am sure I avoided some nasty vet and medical bills with a simple bottle of silver goodness :bigthumb:

Please keep me posted on your sweet beauty - you are an awesome momma - she is very very lucky

Oh WOW is she a BEAUTIFUL, beautiful cat! :heart3:

And WHAT an amazing turn-around! i'm so glad Carolina's been able to help you and May!

Thank you once again Carolina and LDG!

May is still doing well on CS as of today.  No big news.

She slowed down on eating though and I'd say that now she eats more or less up to her target weight instead of amount suitable for 4 cats in one.

I'm not worried at the moment, but can't wait for the hole to start closing.

Does anyone know how long does it take for a large open hole to close if there is no infection in it?

Well that's "not news" that's worthy of a smile!

As to the wound closing... I have no idea or experience.

I wonder if it's worth talking to the vet about collagen-based wound healing products? I don't know if they'd carry them there. They might at a human hospital. I know there are products available here - and collagen is basically just an amino acid, so it smells nasty to us, but it shouldn't be harmful if she licks at it. :dk: Though I think those that are most likely to be available there would probably be used in a human hospital for wound trauma, and they also most likely come as collagen-in-a-bandage format. IF it's even something you can access/purchase, the vet can probably best advise you on how to use it for May.

Just putting it out there.

Vibes it starts closing and doesn't take long to completely heal up!

Today is going well.

I'm getting relaxed now that May is constantly eating and her behavior is normal.

Since yesterday afternoon I haven't even touched her.  No flush, no compress.  The wound looks very good, but will have to check her later this afternoon, perhaps another flush (a small one).

Just wondering, because I saw her rolling in sand all over.  We don't want infection start again.  CS is just so great to keep this under control!!!

I didn't manage to get honey.  Farms refuse to sell raw product.  They get more money selling in bulk for processing or they do process themselves.

I found out something else that might contribute the healing and I perhaps will do this couple of times and see: The herb called Echinacea.  It was suggested I make a tea out of it and apply a compress.

Does anyone know about use of this herb on cats?  I also have St. Johns Wort.  Does anyone know about this for cats as well?

Ambermay said:

Today is going well.

I'm getting relaxed now that May is constantly eating and her behavior is normal.
Since yesterday afternoon I haven't even touched her.  No flush, no compress.  The wound looks very good, but will have to check her later this afternoon, perhaps another flush (a small one).
Just wondering, because I saw her rolling in sand all over.  We don't want infection start again.  CS is just so great to keep this under control!!!

I didn't manage to get honey.  Farms refuse to sell raw product.  They get more money selling in bulk for processing or they do process themselves.
I found out something else that might contribute the healing and I perhaps will do this couple of times and see: The herb called Echinacea.  It was suggested I make a tea out of it and apply a compress.

Does anyone know about use of this herb on cats?  I also have St. Johns Wort.  Does anyone know about this for cats as well?

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Nadia, this is very important - please do not stop the flushes now -
As with any antibiotic, CS will give you the impression that the infection is all gone, when it might still be there..... But if it is not all gone, it might be back stronger..... and at that time, you will have a very hard time to kill it.
Do it for at least 7-10 days.
Please please do not stop just because you think she is better, and you can't see an infection - this was a big wound, and it is still an open wound. She is rolling on dirt..... It is risky..... You want to be safe..... CS is not a chemical and will not do any harm to her.... If this was my cat - I would apply CS 2x a day until this was completely closed.
Not a complicated flush...... But I would still apply on the wound so it is completely covered with it 2x a day.
I would not, by any means stop now.
Echinacea is safe and can be used, however I don't see a point, really..... St. John's Worth is safe too..... It has calming properties, and some antiviral properties.... dosage appears to be of 1/8-1/4 of the human dose..... But is she stressed out? It is used sometimes in natural treatments of Feline Leukemia cats and cats who have separation anxiety and aggression issues..... I have no clue if it will affect her appetite, slow her down etc. You said it is good for her to be active and exercise so more blood circulation would go to her wound..... So I would not be calming her out - my opinion...... for what is worth.... I would let her be active..... Unless she is stressed and that is affecting her healing :dk:
Compresses of Echinacea won't hurt..... but what is REALLY essential here IMHO is that you continue the CS treatment..... IMHO......

Please discuss with your vet anything you want to give to your kitties before doing so, ok? especially if orally..... :nod:

Carolina said:

Nadia, this is very important - please do not stop the flushes now -
As with any antibiotic, CS will give you the impression that the infection is all gone, when it might still be there..... But if it is not all gone, it might be back stronger..... and at that time, you will have a very hard time to kill it.
Do it for at least 7-10 days.
Please please do not stop just because you think she is better, and you can't see an infection - this was a big wound, and it is still an open wound. She is rolling on dirt..... It is risky..... You want to be safe..... CS is not a chemical and will not do any harm to her.... If this was my cat - I would apply CS 2x a day until this was completely closed.
Not a complicated flush...... But I would still apply on the wound so it is completely covered with it 2x a day.
I would not, by any means stop now.
Echinacea is safe and can be used, however I don't see a point, really..... St. John's Worth is safe too..... It has calming properties, and some antiviral properties.... dosage appears to be of 1/8-1/4 of the human dose..... But is she stressed out? It is used sometimes in natural treatments of Feline Leukemia cats and cats who have separation anxiety and aggression issues..... I have no clue if it will affect her appetite, slow her down etc. You said it is good for her to be active and exercise so more blood circulation would go to her wound..... So I would not be calming her out - my opinion...... for what is worth.... I would let her be active..... Unless she is stressed and that is affecting her healing

Compresses of Echinacea won't hurt..... but what is REALLY essential here IMHO is that you continue the CS treatment..... IMHO......
Please discuss with your vet anything you want to give to your kitties before doing so, ok? especially if orally.....

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Thank you Carolina.

I wrote to my vet and she didn't reply for two days by now and I'm happy to hear your opinion.

I thought that because CS makes the wound so red and bleeding - perhaps it will also affect live tissues and prevent natural healing?

But I so used to detecting any changes in May and just before I received this reply from you - I felt her wound and it was just a bit hot.  So, I did a gentle flush with SC and held a compress with it to her.

I didn't force the tube deep down into the hole because it feels that part of it is already closing (let it be so I pray).

Thank you again for suggesting not to stop, I just am so hesitant without an advice - this is so new to us.  I will continue with CS.

The other thing May does is when she goes to any of her beds (with clean sheets - I change them regularly) - she lies on that wound and sleeps on the side of the damaged leg.  After that I see some blood and small marks of whatever comes out of that (not pus, but kind of lymph-like wetness).  I assume it's good - she is perhaps by instinct trying to get rid of excess water-stuff out of there. (Meaning that wound being like a pocket - she creates some kind of drainage by positioning herself).

So, just after the flush and a compress she went and climbed a roof again.  She is in a yard now sitting quietly, just enjoying cool evening.

I was also hesitant about St. John's wort - May is not stressed, she seems happy.

But I am planning to do a small compress this evening with tea made out of echinacea and a bit of fresh rosemarine.  I will make sure that the compress is not so wet and after this she will not be able to lick much of that.  I'll hold it only against the top for 5 to 7 minutes.

Ambermay said:

Thank you Carolina.
I wrote to my vet and she didn't reply for two days by now and I'm happy to hear your opinion.
I thought that because CS makes the wound so red and bleeding - perhaps it will also affect live tissues and prevent natural healing?

But I so used to detecting any changes in May and just before I received this reply from you - I felt her wound and it was just a bit hot.  So, I did a gentle flush with SC and held a compress with it to her.
I didn't force the tube deep down into the hole because it feels that part of it is already closing (let it be so I pray).

Thank you again for suggesting not to stop, I just am so hesitant without an advice - this is so new to us.  I will continue with CS.
The other thing May does is when she goes to any of her beds (with clean sheets - I change them regularly) - she lies on that wound and sleeps on the side of the damaged leg.  After that I see some blood and small marks of whatever comes out of that (not pus, but kind of lymph-like wetness).  I assume it's good - she is perhaps by instinct trying to get rid of excess water-stuff out of there. (Meaning that wound being like a pocket - she creates some kind of drainage by positioning herself).

So, just after the flush and a compress she went and climbed a roof again.  She is in a yard now sitting quietly, just enjoying cool evening.

I was also hesitant about St. John's wort - May is not stressed, she seems happy.
But I am planning to do a small compress this evening with tea made out of echinacea and a bit of fresh rosemarine.  I will make sure that the compress is not so wet and after this she will not be able to lick much of that.  I'll hold it only against the top for 5 to 7 minutes.

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Maybe you don't need to do a through flush..... so that you are not removing the healing tissues every time they form? ask the vet about that.... but it is important that you keep putting the CS on the wound... So perhaps if you soak a cotton ball or some gauze with it, and apply gently, so the whole wound is covered with it..... Just make sure to apply CS to the wound at least a couple times a day..... Clean the wound and apply CS to it.... The flushes might be too hash on her - but you definitely don't want to stop applying it and risk the bacteria growing back up before the wound is healed.... Now you are adding something else to this compresses: have you checked on the safety of this: rosemarine? Remember..... not everything that's safe to humans is safe for cats..... on the contrary - a lot of herbs that are safe for humans are toxic for cats..... DO be careful :nod:

How is she doing today Nadia?

Carolina said:

How is she doing today Nadia?

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May is very active this morning, ate very well again.

She shows a lot of affection now that she feels better, she shows so much of affection, which we did not even see before injury.

She comes when called, whilst she was hiding away from me before for fear of treatment.

She doesn't mind CS treatments at all.

Just an hour ago the lady came and brought me another 5 lt of CS.

I almost finished the first 5 lt.  (I gave some to mom though), but I also use it on dogs, and on May I use a bit wastefully.

I rather soak the large cotton wool with CS dripping and apply to the whole leg, covering wound.

Of course, a lot of it went down when flushing, and I flushed a lot in the beginning.  (like a glass per flush x 4 flushes a day).

Then two flushes a day, and now I will only flush occasionally if need be, but will continue these compresses with CS twice or more a day as you suggested.

It really is a miracle stuff and we are so lucky that this lady makes it in our country.

May already visibly filled out through eating well, and her muscle inside is filling out and 'pocket' inside her leg is slowly closing.

She is no longer skin and bones.

Carolina said:

Maybe you don't need to do a through flush..... so that you are not removing the healing tissues every time they form? ask the vet about that.... but it is important that you keep putting the CS on the wound... So perhaps if you soak a cotton ball or some gauze with it, and apply gently, so the whole wound is covered with it..... Just make sure to apply CS to the wound at least a couple times a day..... Clean the wound and apply CS to it.... The flushes might be too hash on her - but you definitely don't want to stop applying it and risk the bacteria growing back up before the wound is healed.... Now you are adding something else to this compresses: have you checked on the safety of this: rosemarine? Remember..... not everything that's safe to humans is safe for cats..... on the contrary - a lot of herbs that are safe for humans are toxic for cats..... DO be careful

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I researched about rosemarine and came across a question when a person was asking if it is safe that her cat eats rosemarine in the garden.

The answers were quite positive, and I didn't find anything negative about applying a tea made of it to a wound. (My cats don't eat this plant in my yard though).

Then again I found that rosemarine oil in combinations is used as a cat repellant to stop them go places where some people don't want them to be.

Who knows - anyways, just like you said - better be safe than sorry, so even that I did that compress yesterday and nothing bad happened, but I thought to not continue with it, for CS seems to work on its own, and May is already healing.

Ambermay said:

May is very active this morning, ate very well again.
She shows a lot of affection now that she feels better, she shows so much of affection, which we did not even see before injury.
She comes when called, whilst she was hiding away from me before for fear of treatment.
She doesn't mind CS treatments at all.

Just an hour ago the lady came and brought me another 5 lt of CS.
I almost finished the first 5 lt.  (I gave some to mom though), but I also use it on dogs, and on May I use a bit wastefully.
I rather soak the large cotton wool with CS dripping and apply to the whole leg, covering wound.
Of course, a lot of it went down when flushing, and I flushed a lot in the beginning.  (like a glass per flush x 4 flushes a day).
Then two flushes a day, and now I will only flush occasionally if need be, but will continue these compresses with CS twice or more a day as you suggested.

It really is a miracle stuff and we are so lucky that this lady makes it in our country.

May already visibly filled out through eating well, and her muscle inside is filling out and 'pocket' inside her leg is slowly closing.
She is no longer skin and bones.

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This is SO wonderful to hear!!!!!!! So so so wonderful!!!! Can't wait to have this wound all healed!!!! YEAH baby!!!!!!!!

But you are going to stick around no matter what, right? We like having you here!

Carolina said:

This is SO wonderful to hear!!!!!!! So so so wonderful!!!! Can't wait to have this wound all healed!!!! YEAH baby!!!!!!!!
But you are going to stick around no matter what, right? We like having you here!

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Sure thing I will stick around.  I love it here!

Will keep you posted on May as well.

Thank you so much for caring Carolina!

Your kitties are just too pretty not to share with us!!!!!!!!!!! :lol3:

I'm SO glad to hear things are progressing will with May!!!!!

As to being more loving.... we've noticed this with our Lazlo. He's got cancer, and has been going through chemotherapy since the beginning of August. He's such a good and patient boy... but I'm pretty sure he KNOWS that we care and are helping him, and he's letting us know he appreciates it. :heart3: I think that may be what's happening with May. :rub: :heart3:

LDG said:

Your kitties are just too pretty not to share with us!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm SO glad to hear things are progressing will with May!!!!!

As to being more loving.... we've noticed this with our Lazlo. He's got cancer, and has been going through chemotherapy since the beginning of August. He's such a good and patient boy... but I'm pretty sure he KNOWS that we care and are helping him, and he's letting us know he appreciates it.

I think that may be what's happening with May.

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Thank you so much LDG!

Yes, I do believe what you say that being more loving is perhaps a way of appreciation and understanding that we help them.

There is one thing I'm not too sure about with May:  couple of times I noticed that she keeps one of her eyes closed or half open.  I draw her full attention and she opens the eye and it's okay. Then later both eyes are open again.  Perhaps it's nothing to worry about, but I'm thinking this week I'll take her to vets for a check-up.

I wonder if that could be something to do with CS?  She doesn't get it orally of course, but she licks some of it off herself after treatment.

She still eats very well and this morning she was siting with others by EMPTY plates waiting. (I leave enough food for the night for all of them to eat and normally there is some left-overs in the morning).  After some eating May disappeared and whilst I was cutting more meat - I heard some noises I couldn't understand, but about 3 or so minutes late I see May's little face trying to push the door of the cupboard open.  She apparently went in at some time I didn't see and was closed there.  Poor baby, she was quite annoyed on being in for some minutes.  Normally when I see them going in there - I leave doors open, so they can investigate.

:lol3: I can't tell you the number of times we accidentally closed Flowerbelle in the closet. We FINALLY figured out we needed to do a closet check every time before we leave the home. :lol3:

I doubt very much they eye thing has to do with colloidal silver. I've just been doing my own research on it because of this thread. :nod: Does she tussle with the other kitties at all? Our Spooky obviously got a little scratch on her eye - we saw Tuxie slam her in the face, and for the next 2-3 days, she did exactly as you describe. We could see nothing, so we didn't take her to the vet. It cleared up on its own. :nod: