Woo Hoo !!! Sounds like your girl is back on the road again. I've been following this thread but not made a lot of comments. I am so happy Perla is doing so much better today. Better to be wild and crazy than listless and mopey
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Urgent vibes and prayers needed for feralvr's Perla!
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Oh, that's excellent!!Thank YOU. Perla is really wild and crazy tonight. She demanded her playtime, as usual. Very energetic!!! I am seeing a huge change in her attitude and behavior these last two days. She is definitely feeling better. She is even being more tolerant of Wendall :shocker:
.... Pretty good news (at least for today
)
God, I am waiting for that break.......... for a healthy break........... for all of them just to get better and all the issues to go away for good :cross: It's coming, I feel it's coming :cross:
Oh, that's excellent!!
God, I am waiting for that break.......... for a healthy break........... for all of them just to get better and all the issues to go away for good :cross: It's coming, I feel it's coming :cross:
Yup, just around the corner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on Perla! 
AWWWW thanks, MikeWoo Hoo !!! Sounds like your girl is back on the road again. I've been following this thread but not made a lot of comments. I am so happy Perla is doing so much better today. Better to be wild and crazy than listless and mopey
I appreciate your thoughts and concern for Perla
Oh, that's excellent!!
God, I am waiting for that break.......... for a healthy break........... for all of them just to get better and all the issues to go away for good :cross: It's coming, I feel it's coming :cross:
YOU GIRLS are the best !!!!!!!!!!! Perla's eye is about the same.... maybe a bit better. It is so hard to tell. It is dryer though but then at times watery. I guess that is better than watery all the time. - MAN this is really holding on. BUT she is still full of herself and feeling great
. So that makes me VERY happy.P.S. I finally posted some pictures of the
rincess: in Fur Pictures. She is pleased that her momma loves her so :heart3:
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Just read through this whole thread tonight. I am so sorry for all the troubles you are having right now with your babies! We deal with diarrhea around here with a couple of mine and they are so sensitive. It has been a real guessing game with food and there are some foods that will honestly kill their guts in a matter of 2-3 servings. We have not dealt with anything on the large scale that you have lately, but it does seem that all of the animals get sick around the same time. Recently, we had Rosco with staph infection, Momma with a bite wound abscess, Percy with a runny eye, Meowgie getting neutered, Blue having x-rays and blood work to rule out CHF or metastic lung cancer. Meowmy was very stressed!
I am glad you are on the turn around with your babies and sorry I am so late seeing this!
I am glad you are on the turn around with your babies and sorry I am so late seeing this!
I'm off to see Perla's pics! I'm glad she is hanging in there, I know this has been hard on her and on you, I pray he will get better soon.
Hugs!
Hugs!
AWWW - Rebecca - yes, it seems when it rains sick kitties - it pours sick kitties
Just so much all at once. I certainly hope things have calmed down for you and your babies
Hi Libby and thanks for your note
!!! I haven't checked in here in a day or so :anon:. Not too much change in Perla's eye... other than the watery discharge has slowed down - but still very slightly watery at times. I am concerned with the eye lid - especially the upper lid. It is still red and gets crusty overnight. I use a warm compress and saline solution to clean the eye lid. She is such an amazing little patient and tolerates whatever I need to do. Perla is a little angel - well - when she wants to be :lol3: Keep the vibes coming for Perla and this darn eye issue... but other than that, she is doing quite well - thankfully.Pipsqueak is doing great too. I will be trying to get another urine sample from him soon. I will update his thread when I do. Thanks, as always for your thought's
:heart3: I appreciate it so much
That's one stubborn virus! there continues to be improvement - even if it is slow!
there continues to be improvement - even if it is slow!
That's one stubborn virus!
And an odd virus too. In fact tonight, her eye lid looked really good and no watery eye. It seems to get better and look better then if she rubs her eye, she irritates it again. There are times during the day it looks great and at other times I will notice it watering a bit and red. It really is taking a long time to go away, but you are right, slow is better than no improvement at all.
Back on an eye ointment :shame: My poor angel's eye has taken a turn for the worse..... Very, very red and inflammed eye lid - a bit more watering and she was starting to rub her eye more irritating the tissue around the eyes and actually causing some bleeding. I am so upset for my rincess: and have been spoiling her rotten today. She is on Poly/Neo/Dex ointment - has a steroid. I am saying HUGE HUGE prayers asking that her eye will return to normal. This eye has been a problem for over two month's now. Such a worry .... 
She is still getting Lysine - but it doesn't seem to be doing it's job. Will keep you posted, of course. May bring her to Dr. Mark for a second opinion - though I have to wonder if this is a chronic problem right now that will require oral Pred for a bit. Perla thanks you all for your vibes and so does her momma :heart3:
:shame: My poor angel's eye has taken a turn for the worse..... Very, very red and inflammed eye lid - a bit more watering and she was starting to rub her eye more irritating the tissue around the eyes and actually causing some bleeding. I am so upset for my rincess: and have been spoiling her rotten today. She is on Poly/Neo/Dex ointment - has a steroid. I am saying HUGE HUGE prayers asking that her eye will return to normal. This eye has been a problem for over two month's now. Such a worry .... She is still getting Lysine - but it doesn't seem to be doing it's job. Will keep you posted, of course. May bring her to Dr. Mark for a second opinion - though I have to wonder if this is a chronic problem right now that will require oral Pred for a bit. Perla thanks you all for your vibes and so does her momma :heart3:
OH Lauren, you really have had your hands full.
Sending mega, mega vibes for Perla that the topical ointment with the steroid will FINALLY do the trick! :heart3:
Sending mega, mega vibes for Perla that the topical ointment with the steroid will FINALLY do the trick!
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I am really fuming right now - BECAUSE - I just read something today about the Herpes virus and Prednisone that confirms that this Herpes virus WAS brought on by the distemper vaccine (which she should have NOT been given that day - if the vet knew she was on Pred.) WHY didn't the vet know this :dk: ....
Perla was in to see the vet last mid-October along with Perkins for their severe chin acne. I was getting worried it was ringworm, if you remember
. The culture's were negative. This vet (who I have never seen before in that particular office AND will not see again) put Perla and Perkins on Prednisone. The chins started clearing within a week on the Pred so I started spacing out the dosages and they also went down to 2.5 mg. a couple of times a week. Perla..... developed that weepy eye in November (makes sense now - from being on the Pred....) Unfortunately, I didn't know what I know now and at the time I didn't think much of the weepy eye and after talking to the vet on the phone about it - used the Neo-poly drops I had on hand. Then, Perla received her vaccine beginning of December. She still had the watery eye AND was still getting the Pred. twice a week for the chin. WHY WHY did the vet not ask me if she was still on Pred? AND WHY did the vet give her vaccine with a watery eye? I did tell this vet that she has a watery eye and should she get the vaccine. But didn't mention about the Pred because I honestly didn't think that would have been a problem - This vet knew they were on the Pred recently and did not ask me if I was still giving that to them. Well, It is BAD to give a vaccine to a cat who is on Pred - and a Herpes kitty even worse - it is sealing the deal for a full blown herpes virus to erupt. Prednisone suppresses the immune system in the first place - that is WHY she got the weepy eye in November. She should have been off the Pred for at least two to three week's before she received the vaccine. I am SO very upset about this - and am going to call the head vet over there tomorrow and speak to him about this. I feel SO bad because I don't know if her eye will ever clear up - I feel awful about it. :sobbing: I am desperately trying to figure out how this has happened to her - I don't know if I am going overboard here because Perkins (on Pred at the time too) and Presley didn't get the virus - BUT both of those boys did get a little sick too after the vaccine.
She has been on the Neo/Poly/Dex ointment for four days now. Yes - there is improvement in the swelling and redness of the eye lid - but it is watering like crazy again. I also am disgusted because the head vet over there (on the phone the other day) said he was trying to avoid the oral pred. if at all possible for this eye infection. BUT IF I were to give her oral Pred AND this IS Herpes - that will open her up to an even more severe viral infection by suppressing her immune system. What is he thinking..... I have to call and find out. I know I am not the best...... Internet DVM :lol3: and sometimes it is to my demise - but I can't help but research things like this. I just want answer's.
I just want her eye better and normal - I feel so badly for my littlerincess: I think it is time that she see Dr. Mark - Pipsqueak's vet. In fact, I think all the cats will be going to Dr. Mark from now on. The only reason I was using this other vet - was for my TNRs. He did Perla, Perkins, Presley, Walden and Wendall's neuters. I just thought, well, I found a good vet and thought I would just keep using them for the kitten's.
Thanks for listening to my rant - I just really want Perla's eye to completely heal. I have to keep her on the steroid ointment for another seven days. I surely hope that it starts to clear - but I have my doubts.
....Perla was in to see the vet last mid-October along with Perkins for their severe chin acne. I was getting worried it was ringworm, if you remember
. The culture's were negative. This vet (who I have never seen before in that particular office AND will not see again) put Perla and Perkins on Prednisone. The chins started clearing within a week on the Pred so I started spacing out the dosages and they also went down to 2.5 mg. a couple of times a week. Perla..... developed that weepy eye in November (makes sense now - from being on the Pred....) Unfortunately, I didn't know what I know now and at the time I didn't think much of the weepy eye and after talking to the vet on the phone about it - used the Neo-poly drops I had on hand. Then, Perla received her vaccine beginning of December. She still had the watery eye AND was still getting the Pred. twice a week for the chin. WHY WHY did the vet not ask me if she was still on Pred? AND WHY did the vet give her vaccine with a watery eye? I did tell this vet that she has a watery eye and should she get the vaccine. But didn't mention about the Pred because I honestly didn't think that would have been a problem - This vet knew they were on the Pred recently and did not ask me if I was still giving that to them. Well, It is BAD to give a vaccine to a cat who is on Pred - and a Herpes kitty even worse - it is sealing the deal for a full blown herpes virus to erupt. Prednisone suppresses the immune system in the first place - that is WHY she got the weepy eye in November. She should have been off the Pred for at least two to three week's before she received the vaccine. I am SO very upset about this - and am going to call the head vet over there tomorrow and speak to him about this. I feel SO bad because I don't know if her eye will ever clear up - I feel awful about it. :sobbing: I am desperately trying to figure out how this has happened to her - I don't know if I am going overboard here because Perkins (on Pred at the time too) and Presley didn't get the virus - BUT both of those boys did get a little sick too after the vaccine. She has been on the Neo/Poly/Dex ointment for four days now. Yes - there is improvement in the swelling and redness of the eye lid - but it is watering like crazy again. I also am disgusted because the head vet over there (on the phone the other day) said he was trying to avoid the oral pred. if at all possible for this eye infection. BUT IF I were to give her oral Pred AND this IS Herpes - that will open her up to an even more severe viral infection by suppressing her immune system. What is he thinking..... I have to call and find out. I know I am not the best...... Internet DVM :lol3: and sometimes it is to my demise - but I can't help but research things like this. I just want answer's.
I just want her eye better and normal - I feel so badly for my little
rincess: I think it is time that she see Dr. Mark - Pipsqueak's vet. In fact, I think all the cats will be going to Dr. Mark from now on. The only reason I was using this other vet - was for my TNRs. He did Perla, Perkins, Presley, Walden and Wendall's neuters. I just thought, well, I found a good vet and thought I would just keep using them for the kitten's. Thanks for listening to my rant - I just really want Perla's eye to completely heal. I have to keep her on the steroid ointment for another seven days. I surely hope that it starts to clear - but I have my doubts.
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I am SO sorry Perla is still dealing with this!!!!!! I do think the vaccine exacerbated the problem. But I'm not so sure the pred compounded it. 2.5mg 2-3x a week is a very, very, very low dose, and here's why I say I'm not sure the pred compounded the problem.
I just had the chat with my vet yesterday about prednisolone, because of Lazlo. She said that 5mg (his dose) is not a "low" dose - but it is an anti-inflammatory dose, (at his 12 pounds), NOT an immuno-suppressive dose. So now that the chemo is done, even if we keep him on the pred (she's calling the oncologist to find out what he wants to do), I don't need to worry about HPP raw foods once their systems have adjusted to raw - not because of the pred.
So on that low of a dose - for how long before the vaccine? - it shouldn't be immuno-suppressive.
But at this point? You may want to find a cat eye specialist, Lauren. With the more specialized knowledge, they may have options/solutions the vets just haven't found yet.
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But I'm not so sure the pred compounded it. 2.5mg 2-3x a week is a very, very, very low dose, and here's why I say I'm not sure the pred compounded the problem.I just had the chat with my vet yesterday about prednisolone, because of Lazlo. She said that 5mg (his dose) is not a "low" dose - but it is an anti-inflammatory dose, (at his 12 pounds), NOT an immuno-suppressive dose. So now that the chemo is done, even if we keep him on the pred (she's calling the oncologist to find out what he wants to do), I don't need to worry about HPP raw foods once their systems have adjusted to raw - not because of the pred.
So on that low of a dose - for how long before the vaccine? - it shouldn't be immuno-suppressive.
But at this point? You may want to find a cat eye specialist, Lauren. With the more specialized knowledge, they may have options/solutions the vets just haven't found yet.
: vibes: Lauren, don't beat yourself up for not mentioning the Pred to Perla's vet---you didn't go to vet. school. Beat up on the vet---he did go to vet. school
I know how you feel, I've done the "if only I had....." routine myself. You're an amazing Meowmy, and while it may be slow going, I'm sure Perla will beat whatever it is going on wiht her eye.
Gentle head skritches to your little Princess, and a (((big hug))) to you.
I know how you feel, I've done the "if only I had....." routine myself. You're an amazing Meowmy, and while it may be slow going, I'm sure Perla will beat whatever it is going on wiht her eye.
Gentle head skritches to your little Princess, and a (((big hug))) to you.
Thank you, LaurieI am SO sorry Perla is still dealing with this!!!!!! I do think the vaccine exacerbated the problem.
I just had the chat with my vet yesterday about prednisolone, because of Lazlo. She said that 5mg (his dose) is not a "low" dose - but it is an anti-inflammatory dose, (at his 12 pounds), NOT an immuno-suppressive dose. So now that the chemo is done, even if we keep him on the pred (she's calling the oncologist to find out what he wants to do), I don't need to worry about HPP raw foods once their systems have adjusted to raw - not because of the pred.
So on that low of a dose - for how long before the vaccine? - it shouldn't be immuno-suppressive.
But at this point? You may want to find a cat eye specialist, Lauren. With the more specialized knowledge, they may have options/solutions the vets just haven't found yet.
I just got off the phone with Dr. Sandu. He was very sorry I was so upset and felt badly. He reassured me that the PRED was NOT any where near the dosage to be Immuno-suppressive - not in the least. AND she was only getting 2.5 mg. twice a week at that point in time. So I got myself all worked up for nothing. He also said that the "oral" dose will be so small - for the anti-inflammatory response that it will not suppress her immune system either. BUT we will wait until the ten day steroid ointment treatment is done to see where we are at. Her eye lid is definitely much better and the tissues in the eye are down a bit too. Still weepy though. YES, Laurie
- the eye specialist would be a better option than taking her to Dr. Mark at this point for a second opinion - not that I don't think he could help - but he might be suggesting the same protocol as Dr. Sandu anyway. The Specialist at this point will have more options for us and be able to give me some hope, I am sure. :nod:
Oh Libby - HI
!!!! Thank you SO much. I will give the rincess: a head skritch from you :rub: It makes me feel good to know you are thinking of us :happy3: :heart3:
We've ALL been in the same boat, sweetie. (The "If only.... " ). I know it's been slow going, but I agree - she WILL beat this! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
