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Unfortunately, Mike and I have separated for the time being and I have to move (he did too, neither of us are staying in this apartment). We are still together, but we're starting over fresh and just dating now - no living together again for quite some time. I couldn't afford to have all four of our pets and he couldn't take any with him when he moved to his place (he's renting a room for now, no pets allowed... it was all he could afford). We decided to rehome our pit mix that we had had for about two months, we got her into a really good rescue and she'll have a very good home. Everyone was just thrilled with her when they came to pick her up. 

 

Anyways, I move in around 3 weeks. I have a month between when I move in there and have to be out of the apartment I am now. Should I move the pets over before I move the majority of my stuff in or before? I was thinking after, because then at least there will be some things there with their scent on it... even though I'll be getting new furniture (my birthday present from my parents - all the stuff I have now is from college and they thought it would make me feel better). 

 

I plan on putting up shelves and things for her so that she can jump up and be up high. I don't want a scratching post, first of all I don't really have the room for it there, and second because I just don't like the looks of the ones I can afford. Should I put them up before I move her over? 

 

Should I move her over before the dogs?

 

I will be on the sixth floor in my new place, and I'll have a balcony. Is there anything that I can buy to make the balcony safe for her to go out on? One of my dogs has bladder issues and I will be having a potty patch on the balcony for her to use (she can't hold it very long once she realizes she has to go, I don't know that she'd always make it for the stairs/elevator). Since the potty patch will be there, I was planning on just leaving the door slightly open during the warmer months so they could go to the bathroom and get fresh air as they need it. Obviously, I won't be doing that if I can't cat proof the balcony, but I also don't know how to stop her from wanting to go out there (if she does want to). How can I stop her from wanting to go out there? How do you cat proof a balcony?

 

Anything else that I might not be thinking of? 

 

I'm really happy about this place - we're allowed to throw cat litter down the garbage shoot!

post #2 of 7

Wow, big changes, for you and for the pets! One thing to keep in mind is stress issues. This will be a stressful time for you all, so you will need to be extra patient with the furkids (and with yourself too ;) ).

 

Some thoughts -

 

This is a high-risk time for a pet to run outside in panic and get lost.

 

1. I hope all are chipped, and wearing collars with ID's. Better safe than sorry.

 

2. Make sure pets are in a secure room before the movers come in.  I'm not a dog expert, but for your cat, please have her secured in a carrier, or in a locked room. A room with the door shut isn't enough, as one of the movers may inadvertently let her out. Even with the carrier - I would put a sign on the door warning movers that there's a pet in the room.

 

Acclimatization

 

Try and make this a gradual process. It's best to limit your cat to one room at first. Watch her to see how she's adjusting before letting her out of the room to explore. One concern is with her getting lost inside the new place (odd, I know, but cats have been known to get stuck in closets and even drawers).

 

Feliway

 

It might be a good idea to use a Feliway diffuser for the first few weeks. This would help calm her down and make her feel like this is safe territory.

 

Addressing some of your questions -

 

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Should I move the pets over before I move the majority of my stuff in or before?

 

Having familiar objects with their scent on them is going to help. Also, it's best to have your share of moving stress over with before dealing with pets. If possible, get stuff in first, put things in place as much as you can - set up the litter box, feeding area, everything that's related to your cat before bringing her. Again, try and limit her to one room at first. This will also give you a change to set up that one room first and keep her there while you're organizing the rest of the place.

 

 

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I plan on putting up shelves and things for her so that she can jump up and be up high. I don't want a scratching post, first of all I don't really have the room for it there, and second because I just don't like the looks of the ones I can afford. Should I put them up before I move her over? 

 

Again, put everything in place before you bring in the cat. Not sure what you mean about the scratching post - you certainly need to allocate scratching places for her to use. We have an article about scratching posts which might help -

http://www.thecatsite.com/a/problem-scratching-and-how-to-stop-it

It has a section there about choosing the right scratching post and placing it correctly.

 

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Should I move her over before the dogs?

 

Not sure about the dogs' side in this. For the cat - assuming she's good with the dogs, this shouldn't be a major issue. The problem is more with the territory than with the dogs. I would just move them over at the same time - again, assuming there are no current problems. Going back to my initial comment, this is a stressful time for all concerned, so keep a close eye on their interactions to make sure no one is redirecting stress-related aggression towards a fellow pet.

 

 

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I will be on the sixth floor in my new place, and I'll have a balcony. Is there anything that I can buy to make the balcony safe for her to go out on?  How can I stop her from wanting to go out there? How do you cat proof a balcony?

 

This is a major safety issue and of all the things you brought up in your post, this is the one I'm most worried about. Basically, the way to cat proof a balcony is by turning it into a complete cat enclosure. Either that, or not allowing the cat out unsupervised - which would be a problem in your case because of the dog.

 

I actually suggest that you start a new thread about this topic alone - how to cat proof a balcony. I'd be interested in seeing the responses as well.

post #3 of 7
Anne is absolutely right with all her suggestions. When I moved my five cats I kept them in their carriers till everything was in place (well, not quite everything!) and they were then given immediate access in the kitchen to their food bowls, beds and cat tree. On hte scratching post, you will need something if they are not to go for your new furniture, and hte soomer they get used to it the better. You could nail a scratcher to the wall if you don't want a traditional one.

The balcony is important to get right. My friend cat proofed her balcony with chicken netting, making a complete enclosure of it. Whatever you do you must make sure the cat cannot jump or climb to the top of the sides, and that is almost impossible with most cats withough constructing a roof. But it should not be expensive to make, as long as it is made properly by a professional - a cat will always find the chink if there is one!

Good luck witht he move, and I hope your personal life gets onto a firm and happy footing very soon.
post #4 of 7

Alicia, I'm sorry things are up in the air with Mike right now.  I'm also really sorry you had to rehome your pit mix bawling.gif I LOVE pits & hope to own one if I ever grow up & get a house.  Anyway, I hope you are able to get moved & settled in so you can get some peace of mind! 

 

I'm moving with the kittens soon, too.  One piece of advice that was given to me in the thread I started that I definitely plan on trying is this: Take a shirt or towel, get it smelly with you, the dogs, and kitty (and maybe Mike if possible?), then when you're moving in, take the towel and rub it on baseboards, wall corners, furniture, etc. (anything at kitty height basically) so that when she is exploring around the house she finds comfortable, familiar scents everywhere she goes.  I can't afford the Feliway but it was recommended by several people in the thread so you could try that too if budget allows.


I agree with the others who've said you should move stuff first, pets last.  If you have the door open while bringing stuff in (even boxes or other small items) they could run out.  But I guess if the timing doesn't work out, you could lock them in separate rooms if you have them.

post #5 of 7
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Thanks everyone. Mike and I are on very friendly terms right now, we're just not living together. It's working out very well and we're both working on our own personal issues and getting ourselves more stable before living together again. Everything will work out, it'll just take some time. I don't know if I ever told anyone on here this, but when we first got together we moved very fast. We met and about a month or so later he was living with me - he had lost his place because his roommate was moving, so he was going to stay here for a few days until he found a new place, he wasn't finding anything so he just started giving me rent money, lol. We love each other, we really do, we just needed time apart and to start over. 

 

I forgot to mention earlier that Leiki is declawed (we didn't do it, she came that way). She has a canvas laundry hamper that she loves to "scratch" on and that's the only place she'll do it. We had a sisal rope door hanger thing and she just ignored it (I thought she might like the feeling on her paws, lol), I tried putting it on the floor and she still ignored it. She doesn't scratch on the carpets or the furniture either. What I meant by scratching post was actually cat tree - I have no idea why I wrote scratching post, lol. 

 

 

post #6 of 7
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Originally Posted by Anne View Post

Wow, big changes, for you and for the pets! One thing to keep in mind is stress issues. This will be a stressful time for you all, so you will need to be extra patient with the furkids (and with yourself too ;) ).

 

Thanks, I keep reminding myself to be patient with them. I find it if they're driving me nuts (more so the dogs, lol) that a little time in the crate for them lets us all calm down a bit. They've been pretty good though. The first few days were REALLY hard for Fynn (one of the dogs). Mike and him are very bonded, when Mike left, Fynn would only eat a very tiny bit and then throw it up for three days. Now Mike comes over every few days for the day and that seems to be keeping Fynn on track. Mike also has a set of keys still, so he'll text me and ask me if he can come over and walk the dogs while I'm at work or if I have to go out for a bit. 

 

Some thoughts -

 

This is a high-risk time for a pet to run outside in panic and get lost.

 

1. I hope all are chipped, and wearing collars with ID's. Better safe than sorry.

 

The dogs are chipped but Leiki is not. She does have a collar with ID on it though, I will make sure that she is wearing it when we start to bring things in and out. 

 

2. Make sure pets are in a secure room before the movers come in.  I'm not a dog expert, but for your cat, please have her secured in a carrier, or in a locked room. A room with the door shut isn't enough, as one of the movers may inadvertently let her out. Even with the carrier - I would put a sign on the door warning movers that there's a pet in the room

 

I have a very big closet at the new place where her litter box is going to go (I think it's bigger than my new bathroom, lol). I'll put her in the carrier in there, the dogs will also be in their crate in there too. There's a light and everything, so it's not like they'll be sitting in a dark closet. There is nothing that needs to go in there until after the movers have left - I plan on moving everything into there a day or two after I get my keys, so it'll be all set up. 

 

Acclimatization

 

Try and make this a gradual process. It's best to limit your cat to one room at first. Watch her to see how she's adjusting before letting her out of the room to explore. One concern is with her getting lost inside the new place (odd, I know, but cats have been known to get stuck in closets and even drawers)

 

She likes to sleep in my drawers already and LOVES closets, so I believe it. I'll limit her to my bedroom at first and then slowly move her stuff to the rest of the apartment. 

 

Feliway

 

It might be a good idea to use a Feliway diffuser for the first few weeks. This would help calm her down and make her feel like this is safe territory.

 

Addressing some of your questions -

 

 

Having familiar objects with their scent on them is going to help. Also, it's best to have your share of moving stress over with before dealing with pets. If possible, get stuff in first, put things in place as much as you can - set up the litter box, feeding area, everything that's related to your cat before bringing her. Again, try and limit her to one room at first. This will also give you a change to set up that one room first and keep her there while you're organizing the rest of the place.

 

I was already planning on setting my bedroom up first so that I had a place to go that wasn't full of boxes, lol, so that should help her too. I'll lend Mike a blanket to use for the week before I move and then it will have his scent around too. 

 

Not sure about the dogs' side in this. For the cat - assuming she's good with the dogs, this shouldn't be a major issue. The problem is more with the territory than with the dogs. I would just move them over at the same time - again, assuming there are no current problems. Going back to my initial comment, this is a stressful time for all concerned, so keep a close eye on their interactions to make sure no one is redirecting stress-related aggression towards a fellow pet.

 

The dogs were here before she was and never had a problem sharing their space. She sometimes will go into their crate and just hang out when they're not in there, or if they're hanging out in there with the door open. Both Sadie and Fynn are pretty laid back about everything - with the exception of Fynn when Mike first left. They are both used to traveling and moving, so I don't think they will be too stressed out, but I will keep a close eye on everyone just incase. 

 

This is a major safety issue and of all the things you brought up in your post, this is the one I'm most worried about. Basically, the way to cat proof a balcony is by turning it into a complete cat enclosure. Either that, or not allowing the cat out unsupervised - which would be a problem in your case because of the dog.

 

I actually suggest that you start a new thread about this topic alone - how to cat proof a balcony. I'd be interested in seeing the responses as well.

 

I'll start a new thread on it tomorrow when I get home from work. I would like to be able to leave the balcony door slightly open at all times, especially in the summer, but if it's not possible Sadie does give me enough warning to get off my butt and open the door for her most of the time. I plan on having a mat infront of the balcony door anyways, I'll just make sure that it's a cheap one at the start while she gets adjusted and we see how things go. 


 

 


 

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Originally Posted by jennyranson View Post

The balcony is important to get right. My friend cat proofed her balcony with chicken netting, making a complete enclosure of it. Whatever you do you must make sure the cat cannot jump or climb to the top of the sides, and that is almost impossible with most cats withough constructing a roof. But it should not be expensive to make, as long as it is made properly by a professional - a cat will always find the chink if there is one!
I have to check with the building manager first, but I think we can do something like you mentioned. There is a balcony right above mine, so that would act as a roof. I honestly don't even think she will want to go out there though, we've tried to take her outside a few times and she just freaks out. 
Good luck witht he move, and I hope your personal life gets onto a firm and happy footing very soon.


 



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Originally Posted by parsleysage View Post

Alicia, I'm sorry things are up in the air with Mike right now.  I'm also really sorry you had to rehome your pit mix bawling.gif I LOVE pits & hope to own one if I ever grow up & get a house.  Anyway, I hope you are able to get moved & settled in so you can get some peace of mind! 

 

Thanks, we both miss her a lot but we know it's what's best for her right now. She is in a very good foster home and the rescue is very nice. Thankfully I knew someone that worked there so they pulled some strings so that I didn't have to sign any surrender forms (which would ban me from adopting in the future from a lot of rescues) and they are keeping me updated on how she's doing. 

 

I'm moving with the kittens soon, too.  One piece of advice that was given to me in the thread I started that I definitely plan on trying is this: Take a shirt or towel, get it smelly with you, the dogs, and kitty (and maybe Mike if possible?), then when you're moving in, take the towel and rub it on baseboards, wall corners, furniture, etc. (anything at kitty height basically) so that when she is exploring around the house she finds comfortable, familiar scents everywhere she goes.  I can't afford the Feliway but it was recommended by several people in the thread so you could try that too if budget allows.

 

Feliway seems to be extremely expensive around here - I was thinking about getting some online and having it shipped, but honestly everything is costing SO much money that if I can avoid putting more on my credit card I'm going to. As I mentioned above, I'm going to give Mike a blanket to use for a week before we move, then I'll probably use it for a night or two and let everyone sleep with me. That way there will be something nice and smelly for them to sleep on and have around, and I can rub it all over everything. Or maybe I'll just tell Mike not to shower for a few days and then have him come over and roll on the floor, lol - just kidding. 


I agree with the others who've said you should move stuff first, pets last.  If you have the door open while bringing stuff in (even boxes or other small items) they could run out.  But I guess if the timing doesn't work out, you could lock them in separate rooms if you have them.

 

Leiki gets out in the hall all the time now, lol. There have been a few times that she's gotten out and we haven't seen her, then we'll hear her knocking at the door to come back in. Do you know how scary it is to hear knocking at the door and not see anything through the peep hole?! lol I always check the hall now after I come in, just incase she's slipped out. 

 

 

post #7 of 7
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I never did post that thread about cat proofing a balcony... when the weather gets a bit nicer here (as in, not freezing) I will take some photos of my balcony and post it. 

 

I just wanted to update how the pets are doing at the new place. 

 

Everyone is doing great! They warmed up to it very quickly and seem to love it. Leiki especially because the pet bedroom (a big closet, lol) has lots of built in shelves that she can crawl all over and hide in. 

 

The dogs going to the bathroom on the balcony is also working out great. I have a Potty Patch out there that I have trained them to go on and they hit it every time, unless there is snow all over the balcony. When that happens, they'll just go wherever. The problem then came that when it starts to melt, pee/water mix would start to drip down off of my balcony and possibly onto the one below me. Where I used to live, the people above me used to let their dog just pee all over their balcony and it would get all over my car. It was extremely frustrating and I don't want to do that to my new neighbours. I now keep a bucket out there with a cat litter scoop, if they pee on the snow I just shovel it up with the litter scoop and put it in the bucket. When the weather is warmer and there is no snow on the balcony, I empty the potty patch into the bucket and then take it inside and flush it. I have also been cleaning out the Potty Patch every few days in the bathtub with water and bleach, letting it dry inside and then putting it back out. So far, no smell on it or anything but we'll see if that changes in the summer when it gets warmer out. My building also has a really weird policy about dog poop, if your dog poops on the grounds (or if you're out walking and can't find a garbage can), you're supposed to double bag it, bring it INSIDE and throw it in the garbage room or down the shoot. We are NOT allowed to throw it in the dumpster behind the building... apparently people weren't closing the bags or were flinging loose poop in there and then the building manager would have to clean them out. So I just pick up their poop in a doggy bag, throw it in my trash and take my trash out - or (if I don't have any trash that day) I double bag it and throw it down the shoot. Sadie hasn't had an accident inside at all so far! I'm very proud of her. I do keep the door shut to the balcony, because Leiki is still wanting to go out there, but Sadie likes to sleep, play and lounge around on a chair right near the door or right in front of the door, so it's not a long trek for her. 

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