What Breed is My Cat?

risalat1080 said:

can anyone please tell me what breed he is...??

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A lovely red domestic shorthair

The other is either a Siamese (only if papered) or a pointed domestic

missymotus said:

The other is either a Siamese (only if papered) or a pointed domestic

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 Close but not a Siamese or a moggie

Looks alikes old type siamese are tricky. As mixes of two free wandering point genes do often gives this look. This occurs now and then in Russian Blue.  Such a resulting point is technically a Russian, perhaps even - a russian blue, although definitely not longer any blue. With pedigree and everything... (That pedigree dont says RUS but SHX (?) which essentially means a short haired moggie - but yet, they DO get a pedigree paper with full registry).

I had seen a wonderfully gorgious mix of a Rex of some sort + some other, I dont remember now... On the title blade of the big monthly British cat magazine several years ago... Perhaps somebody remember?

That cat had perhaps also technically a pedigree paper, if the outcross was allowed.  Among Rexes they do sometimes allow outcross sometimes if you ask the association beforehand.

Could it be Thai?   Ie a breed of modern old type siamese, so to speak.   I dont know all the details.

Thai is still a Siamese though

StefanZ said:

Could it be Thai?  

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That was the first breed I thought too. But if not registered, a moggie.

How about a pointed Tonkinese?   

The body type looks like it may be more semi-foreign  like the  Tonkinese were originally supposed to be .    Unless he had stud jowls the head type doesn't look so much like the typical old style Siamese / Thai (but i am not seeing a profile view , so i am trying to see it just by the angle shot. Front views cause a foreshortening effect, one can't see how much depth there is.  )  

 Also Thai are foreign body type   (at least in TICA which has the most specific breed standard for Thai,  though there would be some  Thai who turn out more like this. 

This  boy looks more like the Euro kind of Tonk than a lot of U.S. show Tonks  which have become more like the U.S. Burmese.... those Tonks are now semi-cobby.    ( but there are  Tonks in US that do have a  more medium or even semi foreign type)

Anyway welcome to you and thanks for sharing pics of this handsome cat. 

maewkaew said:

How about a pointed Tonkinese?   

The body type looks like it may be more semi-foreign  like the  Tonkinese were originally supposed to be .    Unless he had stud jowls the head type doesn't look so much like the typical old style Siamese / Thai (but i am not seeing a profile view , so i am trying to see it just by the angle shot. Front views cause a foreshortening effect, one can't see how much depth there is.  )  

 Also Thai are foreign body type   (at least in TICA which has the most specific breed standard for Thai,  though there would be some  Thai who turn out more like this. 

This  boy looks more like the Euro kind of Tonk than a lot of U.S. show Tonks  which have become more like the U.S. Burmese.... those Tonks are now semi-cobby.    ( but there are  Tonks in US that do have a  more medium or even semi foreign type)

Anyway welcome to you and thanks for sharing pics of this handsome cat. 

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You are the winner. He is a tonk. He has papers and acts like he is the king of all my other cats. lol..  He has been the best cat I have ever had though. He is very vocal. If anyone is thinking of getting a tonk you will not be disappointed. They are a great breed just a little loud at times.   Thanks for all the replies. I thought it would be fun for you all to have something to guess besides a moggie for a change    (not that there is anything wrong with a moggie) i got a few of them too.  thanks again

Looks far more Siamesey than Tonks over here which are more Burmese in type (non US type Burms of course)

We don't have any Tonkinese here, FIFé doesn't recognize the breed and TICA&CFA are still small over here. But as far as I know we don't have any breeders here and I can't recall seeing one in a show either.

NorthernGlow said:

We don't have any Tonkinese here, FIFé doesn't recognize the breed

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Right, so he IS a moggie after all!   Here in Europe.      ROFL!

Just kidding.  

Nice to learn this comparatively new breed.   Sounds sympathetic.

can you tell what breed my cat is? we already know one one of them,



We don't know Salem but we do know calie, I can try and get a better picture of Salem if I need one.


This little one is Sassy


Also does anybody have any idea on how big sassy might get?

They are all non-pedigree cats - no particular breed - like over 90% of cats.  You know what colour the bottom one is, the middle one is obviously black (unless there are some white bits hidden in the photo) and the top one looks to be a blue tortie & white, or in US-speak a blue calico.  I can't even tell how big Sassy is in the photos so I have no idea how big she will get.

I have seen some white on salem, But he is mostly all black.

You are the winner. He is a tonk. He has papers and acts like he is the king of all my other cats. lol..  He has been the best cat I have ever had though. He is very vocal. If anyone is thinking of getting a tonk you will not be disappointed. They are a great breed just a little loud at times.   Thanks for all the replies. I thought it would be fun for you all to have something to guess besides a moggie for a change    (not that there is anything wrong with a moggie) i got a few of them too.  thanks again

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Tonks are some wonderful cats, aren't they?  A friend of mine shows Tonkinese and I'm very fond of them.  They are not all as loud as yours, though.  ( but I've been used to Siamese for a  long time....  and I guess "loud"  is relative.  LOL)  .  

He looks like a very confident cat.  Just looking at him, I can see he knows he is the king of the house .                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        . 

  I admit that, had I been the first to guess, I may have been a bit confused between Tonk and Thai, since he looks even less like the typical North American Tonks today than those from elsewhere.  But   I think he does look  more like some photos I have seen of some of the Tonkinese in Europe.  (but also there are some in the US like this, since there's some  range of type born. )    And  most  Thais / Old  Style Siamese I know  have  a shorter, flatter-lying  coat  and a more distinct wedge-shaped muzzle  ( described a century ago as "marten faced")  -- at least the ones from   breeders in US , UK, other European countries and Thailand itself,  who are breeding to preserve authentic Siamese of the older type,  not to produce some new (and distorted) re-creation by mixing Siamese with other breeds and moggies of Western or Russian ancestry.  

I didn't realize that FIFé did not recognize Tonkinese.   I know they are recognized by GCCF and LOOF .

I rescued this mama and her babies from the euthanasia room at our local pound (along with a bunch of other DSH kitties that day). I need to list her for adoption soon, as soon as her spay and shot series are completed and she's feeling a bit better. I would like to list her as a DSH mixed with a suspected breed, as that will make her get more hits and be more adoptable. Please don't lecture me on the "she doesn't have papers." I'm putting her as a suspected mix, and I would hope people would focus on the getting a home for a sweet, deserving cat portion.

She has been too stressed to talk much, but last night she finally began chirping to me when she cuddles. She's finally eating again and she is beating her URI.

She's a rounder and longer body than most Siamese mixes I see, so I was thinking a tonk mix. Her white feet make me think she could be a snowshoe mix instead. She has bright blue eyes that don't photograph well. All four feet are white.

Any guesses?

For listing her a 'possible snowshoe mix' is as good as any.  Hope you find a great home for her and her kittens.

OrientalSlave said:

For listing her a 'possible snowshoe mix' is as good as any.  

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Agree Snowshoe is the best, though the chances are practically zero of her actually being a Snowshow mix given how extremely rare the breed is.

To me it's wrong to lie to people just to get a cat adopted, as we've seen on all the "what breed is my cat" threads on here, people don't listen to the "mix" or domestic tag and cling wrongly to the breed label ending up looking foolish for thinking their cat is something it's not. 

I left this board because of people making comments like this. I rescue cats and help them find homes-- often purebreds who are dumped by owners and set to be euthanized. Too many cats are treated as disposable-- by breeders, too. I see so many killed each day, and the reaction I get is that "it's wrong to lie to people."

This cat is clearly some type of Siamese mix. There is no doubt about it. How is that a lie? She has pure white feet and the body type. No one is claiming she has papers. I will get her a home like she deserves, Siamese mix, DSH, tabby, or whatever. Although, again, I fail to see how this is a lie given that she clearly is a mix!

I should have remember not to come back here. The attitudes on this board make my blood boil. I honestly think some breeder fans would rather see cats die.
 

ETA: Thank you to OrientalSlave for giving your opinion without judgment. I will try to find a great home for her and her kittens. I am up to 35 cats and kittens rescued from the euthanasia room and adopted out this year.

I would have no trouble telling someone that our current foster, Sassy, "looks like a Snowshoe."  Because she does.  Same with your little rescue there. 

I DO have a problem with one of the local rescue groups that puts cats at the Petco, and they describe every one of them as "Maine Coon mix," "Russian Blue mix," "Siamese mix," "Bengal mix," etc.  I don't mean some of them.  Nor most of them.  EVERY ONE of them!