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2 Strays Come To Our House

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One of them has been coming a lot and for about 1 year, he eats our cats food, but he is really skittish. As soon as I step out of the door he is gone. Just recently another cat has been coming around. This one is less skittish, but still won't let me get anywhere near him. It also has not been eating the cat food I put out that I know of, of course he could be if I am not looking :). I have never trapped a cat before and don't even know where to start. I know I can buy or rent a trap, but I don't really want to pay for it. Is there a way to rig a cat carrier into a trap? Also, when I catch it, I should take it to get spayed or neutered. I am pretty sure there is a feral cat place around here I could take them to to get neutered.

 

Outside I have this enclosed play/tree house with screened in windows. Would this be good for them? I have cat beds and boxes in there already, and a climbing structure for my cat that hates being inside all the time. I would attempt to tame them, but once they were tame, they would go back outside and only come in for night. I don't especially want strays/ ferals around my cats inside. Any advice on making the trap, taming and anything else would be awesome! :)

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Originally Posted by elfuturevet View Post
 I don't especially want strays/ ferals around my cats inside.


Hi!  You do have good plans, and Im sure you will realize them.

 

There are much to say and advice, I presume others will fill in.

 

As first I want to discuss a little this sentence.

 

Why? When they are neutered and somewhat fostered, they will almost surely not be any trouble for your residents.  There are as always with cats no 100% quarantiees, cats are individuals, but as a rule of thumb, adopted shy semiferales are easier to agree with residents, than say, cats you did bough for money.

 

Outside living cats are used to interact with others cats. And being freshly adopted and shy, they are eager to adapt to the others.

 

IF it wouldnt work, you can always return to your original plan, to have them as yours in- and out kitties.

 

This little play house. It would be marvellous for resting semiferale cats when they are just after neutering surgery, and after them recovering and the wound healing nicely, let them go back.

Or when you have quarantine with them (which you should!).

 

But for fostering work it is probably better to have them inside. It is nearer you!  Some fosterers recommend even to use your bedroom as the fostering room!

 

 

It is possible to rig up a carrier into a trap. You must of course watch yourself and yourself close the trap with a rope you draw backwards.

The problem is, if they get really scared and REALLY wants out, you cant probably not hold against...

They are very strong when they are desperate.

But try to experiment, it may perhaps be OK.

 

 

Good luck!   *vibes*

 

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If it were up to me, I would already have them trapped, neutered, vet checked, and inside. BUT, it's not. My parents do not like the strays at all, however, I think I have finally convinced my dad to let me TNR them. I have to pay for all of my pets, and I can't even get an actual job. I do my best by doing yard work, babysitting and a few other things when I can. My parents buy the cheap cat food for like $8 for the outdoor cat, and that's what I have been feeding the strays. I buy much better cat food for my indoor cats, but I can't buy a lot of it for all the cats. 

 

If I get these strays tame, neutered, and looking and being much healthier and cuter, I might be able to convince my parents into keeping them as partially indoor cats. I have tamed wild kittens, but not crazy cats. Guessing it will be much harder.

 

How would I go about quarantining them, that is if I actually catch and get them neutered.

 

Thank you!

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Ok, so I need a little help. I had created my own cat trap and have letting it sit outside for a while to let them get used to it being by their food. Sometimes I leave a little food in it without it being rigged and the food is usually taken. I am not sure if those 2 cats eat it or raccoons or our cats. Anyway, I have not seen them for a week or so now, but I also am not home a ton. I am worried the coyotes got one, they don't stick around the safety of our house much. How should I actually get them to come and catch them?? I know one was here on friday, because I brought all my cats in and put a small piece of turkey out. It was gone within 10 minutes, but I didn't see it get taken. Should I continue feeding them around the trap? I am wondering if they had been attempted to be caught before and know this is some kind of trap, so they ran away. We are not sure when we are going to be able to take them in to the vet, but until then, I will have some time to tame them!

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Originally Posted by elfuturevet View Post

 How should I actually get them to come and catch them?? I know one was here on friday...

 

That is why you use a trap... Extra useful if you never know when they come.  You can of course use  extra smelly baits.   :)

Set it up for real when you are ready, and lets go.  You must of course look it over now and then, so you shouldnt set up the trap while you are away.

You must also be prepared other cats can also be trapped. And racoons.  Most of them you do just release.

So you must have a plan for what to do, if it is another homeless.  Just release, or help it too...

But unless you do have a good organization behind you, you can always help someone, but you cant never help them all. 

 

Right, when you catch them, it isnt really necessary to have them to vet at once. Take them when you can.

 

Although It IS most convenient you take them at once, by several reasons.  One is they come to your quarantine room after their first defleasing and deworming.  Onother good reason is, when they comes back, YOU are the one who do release them.  So you do get immediately some plus points on your account.

But there ARE some rescuers who prefer they at first "land" after catching.  And are taken to the vet when times comes. Many swedish rescuers do so.

 

Another tip, is, you can have them up to 24 hours in the trap / carrier, waiting for the vet visit.

As homeless semiferales, they are used to hide somewhere many hours.  So it is not so big deal as one perhaps thinks.

Make sure the carrier is somewhere dry and reasonably warm.  Lay something on the carrier, so they will have air and some lookout, but still have it covered and dark. So the whole feels like a nice, safe hideout...  Thus they will manage and not even be stressed.

 

ps. There is a  good parallell thread "no progress"  about how to work with adult, very shy semiferales.  Take a look in there! 

 

Although, to be frankly, it is easier to work with ONE shy, than with two who are together.

I suspect it would be better if you do have them separated.  Or just take one at a time...

 

 

Good luck!   *vibes*

ps.  


Edited by StefanZ - 12/8/11 at 12:20am
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I just read through this thread and Stefan, my colleague biggrin.gif, has guided you very well here. I may just add a few suggestions too.
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Be very, very careful when using something other than a true Havahart trap http://havaharttraps.com/..... If you are not experienced at all in trapping adult feral cat's, it can be quite scary once they are trapped. What are you using for a trap - the carrier? This can be done by using a rope tied to the open door and run through the side of the crate. BUT you have to reel in the crate, pulling tightly and quickly towards you once the cat is inside , then you have to latch the door ONLY by using a GLOVED hand. Trapped feral cat's are extremely fierce and wild. If these cat's are truly feral, that is how they will act. It is much safer to use the Havahart trap for you and for the cat. If you call your local TNR organization they will be more than willing to assist you in your efforts with these two cats and even loan you a trap or two. Most Orgs. are very willing to help people in their community that are stepping up to help control the feral cat population in your area.

As for socialization ( tame - a word in which a feral never will be - but more correctly phrased is: Socialized feral smile.gif) on an adult feral cat, it is possible but can take a very, very long time. Month's and month's. And as Stefan mentioned, it is best to bring them inside the home - into a safe, private room where you are able to start the process on a regular daily schedule. Feral cat's (most cat's for that matter) need a constant, regular, daily set schedule. Same thing, same time every day. Also, just agreeing totally with Stefan, that the two should be separated if you plan to socialize. They will feed off of each other's fears of human's and will only bond to each other, not you. So better to try one at a time, or have two separate areas to keep them. There is so much more we will share with you if this is what you decide to try agree.gif

First thing, is getting them safely trapped and to the TNR vet immediately for their neutering/spay. Thank you SO much for caring for these cat's and wanting to do the right thing for them. Your outdoor enclosure sounds just perfect, especially after their sterilizations, a great place for them to recover for a night or two before you release them back outside - if that is your intention. vibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif
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