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post #151 of 168
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so sorry Carolina, I´ll be praying so strong for her improve today...indifferent.gif

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post #152 of 168
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Well, just hanging out until her next pill, at 1 am.... The Lasix.
She did much better today, but did cough twice tonight.... I would not call it cough fits or cough episodes, as it was only a couple of coughs - literally, each time, and soon after I pilled her, so it might be just that the pill bothered her throat. She didn't run out of breath or anything, so that's good.
One thing that's concerning me a little, is that she is very weak on her hind legs - what comes to mind is the high doses of diuretic, and not drinking water yesterday might dehydrated her - she might have lost too much potassium, making her weak. That's the only thing I can make sense of.....
She is drinking water normally now, and the diuretic is lower - she is also eating better, so I believe that with time this will get better. I will call the vet tomorrow to make sure that is the case. I was able to feed her another meal of Ziwipeak, which is highly nutritionally packed, so even though she didn't eat a LOT of it, she ate a good amount today. Ziwi blends into a very creamy pate, making it easy for her to swallow.... If there is any texture in the food, she just licks the gravy out of it and spits it off - not enough energy to chew as of yet frown.gif
She did pee twice out of the litterbox - once during the night, and once during the day, right in front of me. I then noticed the weakness on her legs, and made some stepping stools for her to go up on the box (it is not too tall, but it makes it easier for her to go up) - I cleaned the spot with an enzyme cleaner, and topped the box with cat attract litter. She used the box already, so I think she will be fine with this arrangement. I am not too concerned - I know a house smelling like pee sucks, but my biggest concern is making sure she is alright.... She is not happy not being able to make to the box, I am sure....
Anyways, hopefully tomorrow will be yet a better day..... and the day after a better one too.......
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post #153 of 168
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Ok.... time to go to bed.... in 6 hours or so I need to wake up to give her more meds - and so is the life of a kitty nurse nurse.gif, it seems!
I pilled her and she gagged the poor thing.... Hate pilling her frown.gif
Hopefully she will be strong to chew on her treats soon cross.gif
On a good note....................................... She found her purrrrrr clap.gifclap.gifclap.gif
Good night TCS - Here is for a better tomorrow for miss Gracie - hopefully she will have a day of improvement tomorrow too! cross.gif
post #154 of 168
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Thank you Gail.... I am doing my best to manage everything here the best I can..... agree.gif
Yeah, I think the advantage of the Miralax is that not only it doesn't interfere with nutrient absorption, but it also is a stool softner - that is really what she needs - the little poop she managed to get out yesterday was as hard as a rock - I think because it was so dry. I also have cocconut oil here... I have been using to coat the pills when I pill her.... Do you know anything about it? That might be agood alternative?
It is the extra virgin, organic, raw, unprocessed, all that- bought to give to the kitties..... Bugsy didn't do well on it though.....
And yes, she was straining yesterday - but then again, she was too weak, so "straining" is way relative agree.gif
Thank you so much for your support - gotta go give my girl some meds hugs.gif

Coconut oil is very bad for cats. I found out the hard way. I was trying it for my cats for hairballs. I mentioned it to my vet and she looked it up on a vet info site and found the information that medium chain triglyceride fatty acids are very bad for cats and their livers.

Cats should not have coconut oil. I was unable to access the site, because it is vet only, but she gave me a print out

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She said she also found the same info at the UC Davis University Vet site.
Edited by otto - 12/13/11 at 7:27am
post #155 of 168
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Coconut oil is very bad for cats. I found out the hard way. I was trying it for my cats for hairballs. I mentioned it to my vet and she looked it up on a vet info site and found the information that medium chain triglyceride fatty acids are very bad for cats and their livers.
Cats should not have coconut oil. I was unable to access the site, because it is vet only, but she gave me a print out
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She said she also found the same info at the UC Davis University Vet site.

Actually..... Extra Virgin Coconut oil (NOT simply coconut oil is over 50% essential fatty acids, more specifically, lauric acid. The problem is when "Coconut Oil" is used - the hydrogenated type, sold in supermarkets - yes, that one is very bad, full of saturated fats, and with none of the goodies. It should never ever be given to pets, that is absolutely true.... but there is a big difference in between the two, though IMHO.
If you were giving extra virgin, cold pressed organic coconut oil, such as the NUTIVA brand, you were not harming your kitty hun, there are tons of holistic vets who use that to their kitties very successfully agree.gifhugs.gif
post #156 of 168
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Actually..... Extra Virgin Coconut oil (NOT simply coconut oil is over 50% essential fatty acids, more specifically, lauric acid. The problem is when "Coconut Oil" is used - the hydrogenated type, sold in supermarkets - yes, that one is very bad, full of saturated fats, and with none of the goodies. It should never ever be given to pets, that is absolutely true.... but there is a big difference in between the two, though IMHO.
If you were giving extra virgin, cold pressed organic coconut oil, such as the NUTIVA brand, you were not harming your kitty hun, there are tons of holistic vets who use that to their kitties very successfully agree.gifhugs.gif



No. It's not the hydrolyzed or hydrogenated oil that is the problem. I'm not talking about cholesterol here.

It is the medium chain fatty acids, which is what pure virgin cold pressed coconut oil is mostly made up of, that is bad for cats. Medium chain fatty acids, such as are in coconut oil, are very good for humans. But very bad for cats and their livers.

And...this next part is my opinion only, before I even talked it over with my vet, I started to worry that it might hide problems. The coconut oil makes their coats so luxurious. Often a poor quality coat is the first physical sign a cat is ill. But if they are on this oil, and their coat stays gorgeous because of it, it may take longer for signs of illness to appear.

(I was using Nutiva brand. Tolly's fluid build up started after he'd been taking the coconut oil daily for two weeks. It's possible that it is just coincidence, the cancer was already there, of course, we just didn't know it yet, but it is also possible that the MCT hastened the growth of his liver cancer)

PS Sorry to de-rail Gracie's thread Carolina., I didn't mean to, just wanted to put my concern out there. I won't say any more about it. smile.gif
Edited by otto - 12/13/11 at 9:28am
post #157 of 168
I hope this morning found Gracie still purring, breathing easy and with an appetite. Maybe even a poop?

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post #158 of 168
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Let me just say..... I heartpump.gif my vet, Dr. Escobedo is a very special man; this is the second time he saves one of my babies..... and this is an amazingly difficult case, not many vets would be so attentive heartpump.gif
I do have other vets, but when the case is serious, there is no other like him - he is just unbelievable agree.gif
He calls me every day to check on Gracie (or when Bugsy was going through his issue), discuss and adjust medications, guide me through the issues.... He is truly a one of a kind hugs.gif
So with that stated..... I just hung up the phone with him, and here is what he said:
As of today, she is considered stable clap.gifclap.gifclap.gif
The weakness on her hind-legs can be caused by dehydration, but it is not likely, as she was not on diuretics for long enough - this is most likely due to the heart not pumping enough blood, and she is simply too weak. As the heart gets stronger again, she will feel better. If she was dehydrated, fluids is not a good idea on her case - but, I can mix her food with pedialyte to give her electrolytes back.
He wants me to syringe feed her a little, if it doesn't stress her too much - if it does, stop.
We are dropping the heart medication (Enalapril) to once a day to increase her appetite. Now that she is stable, she should be fine on that dosage - her appetite should increase in 24 hours.
She will continue on the diuretics 2x a day for at least another week, when we will try to bring her down to once a day - if she remains stable, that will be her dose for life. If she relapses, we will keep her at 2x a day.
The lowest dosages are better because of her liver.
Now that she is stable, she is going in for a follow up in 2 weeks.......
Hopefully she will continue to improve day by day.
Her breathing is great, and she has eaten some Ziwipeak this morning - not much, but some.
I will go buy some pedialyte to mix some more for her.....
No poop as of yet......
No pee outside of the litterbox - she is back to using the box like a good girl clap.gif
post #159 of 168
Stable!clap.gif Follow up in two weeks! banana1.gif I am thrilled to read this news! You have done such a great job with her Carolina, feel proud!

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post #160 of 168
Wonderful news that she's stable! A great weight must have dropped from your heart after talking to Dr. Escobedo. vibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif for more improvement!

FWIW, my vets recommend thistle oil for constipation.
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clap.gifclap.gifclap.gifbiggrin.gif Day by day, hour by hour things sound like they are improving!!! jumping.gif I have been so concerned for your sweet old lady and for you, Carolina. Always on my mind hugs.gifhugs.gifhugs.gif AND I loved your earlier comment and SOO true "I will just let her take my by the paw!!" Bless you for what you are doing for Gracie. She is truly a fighter, just like her meowmy heartpump.gif I DO believe this is a worthy battle and can be won. AND as you say - she will know she is loved more than anything in the world, the way you are caring for her right now, this very moment. THIS is probably THE most LOVE Gracie has had in her entire life agree.gifheartpump.gifheartpump.gifheartpump.gifheartpump.gif

More of these every minute of the day for your sweet (cranky, laughing02.gif) girl.... vibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif
post #162 of 168

it is so good to know Gracie is improving:)  It is also good to know about the coconut oil, just in case.

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Stable!clap.gif Follow up in two weeks! banana1.gif I am thrilled to read this news! You have done such a great job with her Carolina, feel proud!
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clap.gifclap.gifclap.gifbiggrin.gif Day by day, hour by hour things sound like they are improving!!! jumping.gif I have been so concerned for your sweet old lady and for you, Carolina. Always on my mind hugs.gifhugs.gifhugs.gif AND I loved your earlier comment and SOO true "I will just let her take my by the paw!!" Bless you for what you are doing for Gracie. She is truly a fighter, just like her meowmy heartpump.gif I DO believe this is a worthy battle and can be won. AND as you say - she will know she is loved more than anything in the world, the way you are caring for her right now, this very moment. THIS is probably THE most LOVE Gracie has had in her entire life agree.gifheartpump.gifheartpump.gifheartpump.gifheartpump.gif
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yeah.gif Aw Carolina.... hugs.gifhugs.gifhugs.gifhugs.gif I have to agree with Gail and Lauren.... I know it was a very dark, difficult time - but the light that's shining now is so bright! sunshine.gifsunshine.gifsunshine.gif

Keeping up the vibes for you and your cranky - but VERY LOVED - sr. girl! vibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifheartpump.gif
post #164 of 168

I'm so glad things are looking up for your crankly old girl.  I, for one, swear by Miralax.  It has worked wonders for my grumpy old guy, Sven.  I give him 1/4 teas. twice a day, and do this religiously...have for over 2 years now.  I just mix it in about a teaspoon of water and mix that into his canned food.  If, for some reason, he refuses his food for a day or two, it really shows in his litterbox straining, and takes a few days to start working again, but it's certainly been a life saver for him (probably literally). 

 

Anyway, continued vibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.giffor Gracie and hugs.gifhugs.gifhugs.gifhugs.gifhugs.gifhugs.gif for you. 

post #165 of 168
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Please continue to send all the vibes you can her way.... she needs them all and then some....
Her breathing is doing quite well, but her eating is lacking severely. I did try to syringe-feed her twice today - the first time was a little better... the second not so much. frown.gif She is determined not to eat frown.gif I am hoping by tomorrow her appetite is better, or else I am really at a loss here. I did get pedialyte, and I am mixing her food with it. She is not drinking water either.... I got as much food as I could into her, but again, not as much as needs it.... probably close.... She got very very stressed on both feedings.... On the first time she urinated all over me - that is a huge sign of fear. On the second, her breathing became very heavy, and she took a long time to recover. Not a full on attack, but still, not something that should be done with a cardiac kitty. If she doesn't show improvement by morning, I am getting stronger appetite stimulants tomorrow, as her vet is off Thursday..... My poor little girl, sometimes I just feel I am torturing her.... I say I am sorry.... I beg her to eat.... Please eat for momma....Kitty%20Food.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif
post #166 of 168
Come on, Gracie, you need to eat and stop worrying your mom so much!frown.gif
post #167 of 168
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rbheart.gif RIP Gracie rbheart.gif
Gracie had a strange attack tonight after going to the litterbox... It was not trying to breath.... This was her heart that was too weak I think... bawling.gif She would start jumping/jerking her legs at each heart beat bawling.gif I calmed her down in a few minutes... She got better and moved to the corner.... She then screamed a couple of times - that's when I ran with her to the ER vet that's only a couple of blocks away.... I don't think I even had my seatbelts on... But it was too late, they entubated her, but they said she was pretty much gone on arrival bawling.gif
I just feel awful.... I feel she suffered so much for nothing.... And in the end, she died in the ER room, away from her mommy bawling.gif
I love you Gracie.... I am so sorry..... I will never, Ever forget you sweet girl.... You will be loved forever..... heartpump.gif
post #168 of 168

Carolina i'm so sorry to be reading your last post  hugs.gif

 

RIP GRACIE rbheart.gif

 

I'll close this thread now, and in your own time, when your ready we'll help you send Gracie across the Bridge 

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