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Tabby, Torbie or Calico?

post #1 of 43
Thread Starter 

I have a great cat named Jango and I am curious if he is considered a Tabby.
 

 

Also I have another cat and I am not sure what her pattern is called either....is she a Torbie or a Calico?

 

 

 

 

I am curious what other people think. My vet called Jango, not quite a Classic Tabby but He isn't quite a Mackerel Tabby. She called my other cat Ailyn a Calico because she has white on her but I thought she was a Torbie.

Thanks
Dianna

post #2 of 43
The first cat is a brown classic tabby. The second is a tortie tabby bicolor (US people call a torbie?). Can't see the pattern clearly because the back isn't showing, but either a tortie mackerel tabby or tortie spotted tabby bicolor.
post #3 of 43
What they call it depends who you ask and where you are, but in TICA your torbie would be called a brown mackerel torbie & white. Torbie is also sometimes called patched tabby or tortie-tabby.
I have a brown ticked torbie with white myself.
post #4 of 43
Thread Starter 

Here is some pictures so you can see her back a bit better

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks,
Dianna

post #5 of 43
I just wanted to say your cats are beautiful!
post #6 of 43

Our Neely is a long-haired torbie and torbies are known to be quite mischievous - Neely is a super diva!  Here is a pic of her:

neely beth's chair.jpg

 

post #7 of 43

Look at Neelys tail....gorgeous. cloud9.gif

post #8 of 43

Here is my ticked torbie, Harlequin:

 

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(she loves getting her picture taken!)

post #9 of 43

beautiful!

post #10 of 43

my shelter has coined the phrase Tabico for the coloration of your cat meaning tabby marking and patches of red so tabico and white ,she isvery cute!

post #11 of 43
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Originally Posted by Allison Grondin View Post

my shelter has coined the phrase Tabico for the coloration of your cat meaning tabby marking and patches of red so tabico and white ,she isvery cute!


While Tabico is a cute little name, it's not an official cat cololur.

 

post #12 of 43

The other name I have heard for tortoiseshell cats with tabby in them (aside from torbie) is calabie. I don't know if that's officially recognized or not though.

post #13 of 43
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Originally Posted by CalicoJack View Post

The other name I have heard for tortoiseshell cats with tabby in them (aside from torbie) is calabie. I don't know if that's officially recognized or not though.

 

Calabie (or Cailby) is a made up term, it has no meaning in the cat fancy 

post #14 of 43
She looks like a brown patch mackerel tabby and white (CFA). I'm not as clear with TICA, but I'm pretty sure she'd be a torbieshell and white, as opposed to a tortoiseshell and white.

Calicos don't have blending and instead have spots of distinct color while tortoiseshells have no discernable areas of a single color.
post #15 of 43

I  never claimed it was,I weighed in awhile back thinking my cat is most probally an aby mix of some sort but certianly not any purebreed simply because of her mitted appearence,neither is calico or torie,we are simply talking colors. and sharing some pictures of some beautiful cats made by mother nature. lighten up,I don't think anyone was thinking they were breeds.

post #16 of 43

Sorry if I came across like I was preachy, I had someone fussing at me earlier this week about what's what in coat colors and I got frustrated and it showed in my answer to you.

 

They are beautiful kitties; the different blends of red and black and white as well as the blue and cream and white make me smile to no end.

post #17 of 43
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Originally Posted by Allison Grondin View Post

I  never claimed it was


Sorry but this is the breeders corner were we use correct terms, not cutesy names that make people look foolish
Just because you're shelter has "coined a phrase" doesn't mean it's appropriate to mislead people on colour terms
post #18 of 43

There are plenty of other sections of the cat site to post pictures of prettily coloured cats. This is the Breeders Corner - and therefore we as breeders come here to discuss our cats using correct terms. We have a very small part of TCS, and it is important to me that it remains a safe place for breeders/exhibitors to discuss our hobby.

 

Here is a link to the CFA's colour chart.. http://www.cfa.org/client/catColor.aspx

 

TICA uses similar terms but differs in a few places.

 

My Mom calls bicolor black and white cats, cow cats, but I would never suggest that this is a recognizable colour description. I would also never go to the fun picture section of this site and correct anyone's use of pet names for cat breeds or colours.

post #19 of 43

Let me share a story (and yes, I'm the person involved) about why Breeders are so fussy about the right nomenclature for cat colors.

 

I bought Treasure from a new breeder - I didn't realize then how lucky I was to get a whole girl given how new I am.  But I was told she was a Tortoiseshell and White.  So, I sent the paperwork to CFA along with $15.00 since the breeder had the date I paid for her, not the date I got her on the paperwork.  I then found a local mentor who looked at Treasure - no, she's a Brown Patch Tabby and White; neither of us were sure if she was a broken Mac or a Spotted, so that was a consious decision to wait on it.  So, I filled out more paperwork and sent it off to CFA with $10.00.  Then, I went to a show and the judges told me that she's a Brown Patch MAC Tabby and White as opposed to a Brown Patch Spotted Tabby and White.  So, another round of paperwork and $10.00 more to CFA to finally get her corrected.

 

Trinkets was registered as a Brown Patch Tabby and White, with a $12.00 fee to CFA.  I did this knowing I'd be doing a correction because one person said she was a broken Mac and one person had her as a Spotted.  At the show, it was confirmed that she had a Spotted pattern, and yes, that cost me an additional $10.00. 

 

The total cost of wrong colors and markings?  $30.00.

 

When I start breeding, I care enough about other people's funds to make sure I get it right the first time and not cost them anything in my own errors, unless they're willing to take that chance as I was with the Spotted vs Mac coats.  And for the record, I can't quite tell the difference in the two beyond the darkness on Treasure's back.

 

I still haven't done the TICA registration, because I want to get it right the first time. 

post #20 of 43

My Bridget is colored almost exactly like the pictures you posted of Ailyn; my vet calls her Torbie.  Whatever they're called, both of our girls are beautiful biggrin.gif

post #21 of 43

I can certainly understand that,cause it appears that it can get very confusing even from the Us to the Uk.

post #22 of 43
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Originally Posted by Allison Grondin View Post

I can certainly understand that,cause it appears that it can get very confusing even from the Us to the Uk.

 

It's actually just the US, most other countries use the same terms as the UK.

 

Confusion within the US with one association using the worldwide terms and the other not.


Edited by missymotus - 12/10/12 at 11:57am
post #23 of 43
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Originally Posted by WendyB View Post

Let me share a story (and yes, I'm the person involved) about why Breeders are so fussy about the right nomenclature for cat colors.

I bought Treasure from a new breeder - I didn't realize then how lucky I was to get a whole girl given how new I am.  But I was told she was a Tortoiseshell and White.  So, I sent the paperwork to CFA along with $15.00 since the breeder had the date I paid for her, not the date I got her on the paperwork.  I then found a local mentor who looked at Treasure - no, she's a Brown Patch Tabby and White; neither of us were sure if she was a broken Mac or a Spotted, so that was a consious decision to wait on it.  So, I filled out more paperwork and sent it off to CFA with $10.00.  Then, I went to a show and the judges told me that she's a Brown Patch MAC Tabby and White as opposed to a Brown Patch Spotted Tabby and White.  So, another round of paperwork and $10.00 more to CFA to finally get her corrected.

Trinkets was registered as a Brown Patch Tabby and White, with a $12.00 fee to CFA.  I did this knowing I'd be doing a correction because one person said she was a broken Mac and one person had her as a Spotted.  At the show, it was confirmed that she had a Spotted pattern, and yes, that cost me an additional $10.00. 

The total cost of wrong colors and markings?  $30.00.

When I start breeding, I care enough about other people's funds to make sure I get it right the first time and not cost them anything in my own errors, unless they're willing to take that chance as I was with the Spotted vs Mac coats.  And for the record, I can't quite tell the difference in the two beyond the darkness on Treasure's back.

I still haven't done the TICA registration, because I want to get it right the first time. 
There's another issue with having the wrong color in CFA. Any points your cat earns under the wrong color class will be voided when you correct the color. You have to start over from the beginning with the correct color.
post #24 of 43
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Originally Posted by WendyB View Post

Let me share a story (and yes, I'm the person involved) about why Breeders are so fussy about the right nomenclature for cat colors.

I bought Treasure from a new breeder - I didn't realize then how lucky I was to get a whole girl given how new I am.  But I was told she was a Tortoiseshell and White.  So, I sent the paperwork to CFA along with $15.00 since the breeder had the date I paid for her, not the date I got her on the paperwork.  I then found a local mentor who looked at Treasure - no, she's a Brown Patch Tabby and White; neither of us were sure if she was a broken Mac or a Spotted, so that was a consious decision to wait on it.  So, I filled out more paperwork and sent it off to CFA with $10.00.  Then, I went to a show and the judges told me that she's a Brown Patch MAC Tabby and White as opposed to a Brown Patch Spotted Tabby and White.  So, another round of paperwork and $10.00 more to CFA to finally get her corrected.

Trinkets was registered as a Brown Patch Tabby and White, with a $12.00 fee to CFA.  I did this knowing I'd be doing a correction because one person said she was a broken Mac and one person had her as a Spotted.  At the show, it was confirmed that she had a Spotted pattern, and yes, that cost me an additional $10.00. 

The total cost of wrong colors and markings?  $30.00.

When I start breeding, I care enough about other people's funds to make sure I get it right the first time and not cost them anything in my own errors, unless they're willing to take that chance as I was with the Spotted vs Mac coats.  And for the record, I can't quite tell the difference in the two beyond the darkness on Treasure's back.

I still haven't done the TICA registration, because I want to get it right the first time. 

Another reason why new breeders shouldn't be selling entire cats and why an experienced mentor is needed
post #25 of 43

Ah, well, I personally like the cutesie names, though I suppose when one uses them it's necessary to note that they are nicknames, and to give the proper terms for them as well. "Calico", "Torbie", and "Caliby" are pretty widespread, as far as these things go.

post #26 of 43
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Originally Posted by Callista View Post

 "Calico", "Torbie", and "Caliby" are pretty widespread, as far as these things go.

 

Of course Torbie and Calico are widespread, they're cat fancy terms. I wouldn't say Caliby is widespread, thankfully. 

post #27 of 43

Hi I'm pretty sure the first one is called a Blotched Tabby! I have one that I rescued when he was only one day old and I had to hand raise him, he's gorgeous!

post #28 of 43
Cat #1 is a Brown Classic Tabby (Brown Blotched Tabby in much of UK)
The terms Classic & Blotched are pretty much interchangeable,but
which term you use would likely be more influenced by the registering
body you use( for example TICA or FIFE) or by the area where you reside

Cat #2 is a torbie (not enough white to be calico)
a torbie is a tortie with tabby markings
a patched tabby has a different look

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post #29 of 43
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Originally Posted by MaryAnna View Post

( for example TICA or FIFE)

Cat #2 is a torbie (not enough white to be calico)
 

For example TICA or FIFE does not recognize a color called calico.

post #30 of 43
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Originally Posted by NorthernGlow View Post

For example TICA or FIFE does not recognize a color called calico.

 

Neither does the GCCF in the UK.  They are tortie & white.

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