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post #1 of 30
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Hi guys..... For those that pray, I would appreciate some extra prayers. For those that believe in good vibes, please pass them on. Any well wishes would be thoroughly appreciated.

For those that do not know me/my situation.
As of Aug. 23, after a 15yr marriage, I became separated from my husband. The situation itself is quite complex, messy and painful.
I am a single mom to 2 beautiful young ladies, ages 15 and 11. My 11yr old has only known a 2 parent home. My 15yr old, remembers from when I was a single mom prior to moving in with my husband 9yrs ago.
In May 2006, I injured my upper back at work.
In Feb. 2007, I was given the diagnosis of severe tendinitis of different sorts affecting both of my arms.
I receive partial WSIB/Workers comp benefits, and intend on fighting that once the divorce stuff is dealt with. Suffice to say, my income is menial at the moment.

I have been blessed to find a woman's shelter that is quite skilled in the Domestic area, and they have been helping me tremendously. They offer things such as transport to and from appointments (they took me to court and spent all day with me, both for support and the ride to and from), they have a food bank, shelter if needed, lots of resources, and counselling free of charge which my youngest DD is involved with.

I am currently residing in the matrimonial home. My (ex)husband is paying the mortgage, so I am thankful I have a roof over my and my childrens heads. The house will be going up for sale as I cannot afford it on my own, and for whatever reason, he does not want it. We will be breaking the mortgage that we just renewed
We built this house together 9yrs ago. And I do mean built. My sweat, blood and tears have gone into our home and it is the first "home" I've had of this "class". I've always been poor, my ex makes decent money. I have a beautiful home that we love. It will be a horrible day when we leave, but I've accepted the fact that I will have to leave. Which brings me to what I need good for.

#1:

I will qualify for geared to income housing/subsidized housing, and I also qualify for special priority due to the circumstances involving my children, and my court case (long story short, I fought back and ended up with a charge) which means that I would be placed ahead of a person who is poor/on assistance/or the like.
That said, there are many women out there trying to pick up the pieces and start a new life for themselves. I will be on the list with MANY other people leaving situations like my own.
The community I live in, has 3 housing co-ops that I have applied for. 1 of them I lived at 9yrs ago as a single mom on assistance. It was a nice 3bdr townhouse and I had no complaints about it. The second one, I drove by it and it appears nice looking. I haven't heard any negatives. The third one, I really really do not want to live at. It is not a nice community, and is run down a bit. But I will of course take whatever I can get, tho I have preferences of the first 2 as they would be wonderful for my children. The first one would be ideal as it is closer to where my 15yr old just got her first job , the 2nd one would be about 30mins bike ride for her but she would alternate between biking and taking a taxi (taxi is $5 anywhere in town).

My application goes in tomorrow.

The wait list is LONG. As in over a year long. But the last time I applied, I ended up getting in within about 6mos.... so there is HOPE.
Please send any positive thoughts my way, that my girls and I are able to get in one of the first 2, and if not, then the 3rd one, BEFORE my home sells and I have to leave.

If I don't have a place to rent by the time my house sells, my kitties will have to go to a shelter ( I would get them back, the womans shelter has a relationship with the animal shelter and they would keep the kitties temporarily) and my girls and I would have to go with emergency shelter.

Any vibes would be appreciated for an opening into one of these co-ops.


#2: My husband and I have separated by means of him moving out. An incident occured on the 23rd Aug. resulting in me not being able to go near him.
He also cannot come near my oldest daughter, or myself. Nor can he come to our marital home.
These are legal restrictions and jail time would occur if breached.

At this point, we are separating by means of a negotiated separation agreement with lawyers (on his desire, even prior to the incident) and waiting the year and divorcing vs family court. I had wanted to settle via separation agreement without lawyers, but he chose otherwise. So be it. I have somewhat of assistance with legal fees, but that's not the issue.

"We" own (aka have a loan) on a truck. It is in both of our names. He has a company vehicle and a sports car. I drive the truck and have mostly. My doctor is not in town and I go in monthly for medications and check ups. My daughters have things they need to be driven to. I have another court date in April, plus a 17wk counselling course starting in March that is court ordered, and is out of town.

I am screwed if i lose the truck. I NEED a vehicle for the next year. I can afford to pay half of the payments (I would find a way to do so) to keep the truck temporarily.

But if he chooses to, he could say nope, no way, and I am out of luck, with noone around to loan me a vehicle, not enough money to rent one (don't think we have a rental place any more) and nowhere near enough money to take a taxi into the city once a week for the program.

Please please pray, vibe, whatever, help him see that his KIDS need the vehicle....they need to get to doctor appointments, they need to go to the dentist, etc. It wouldn't be just me he would be hurting by saying he wants out of the loan..... I cannot afford a vehicle without a co-signer, which aside from him, I do not have.

I don't need to keep the truck if I can get another vehicle. But I have no clue where I'd get another vehicle with my income.

Hope that we can work something out and he can be reasonable. Even if it's something like selling the truck and helping me find a used car. I don't care, I just NEED a vehicle.

#3 and last one:

Last Friday we were supposed to have our first 4-way meeting (he and his lawyer, myself, and my lawyer) to discuss EVERYTHING (house, truck, custody, etc) and it was rescheduled due to my lawyer being in court all day.

It's scheduled for this week Friday and I am terrified. A lot of bad could happen, a lot of good could happen. A lot of answers SHOULD happen, which is good even if they aren't the answers I want.

I do have a lady from the shelter attending the meeting with me, and it will be safe as we cannot be in the same room together. He and his lawyer will be in one room, me, my counselor and lawyer will be in another room, and the lawyers will go back and forth. That is the only way he and I can talk, through counsel or I am allowed to talk to him IF it is an emergency involving the children or affecting his access visits.

Custody will be addressed, and I know what he wants and have stated that if he chooses not to budge on his opinion, then we WILL be going to Family Court.
He knows what I want, and we haven't discussed it due to our non-communication conditions. I am, and always will be, reasonable when it comes to my children. Which, the youngest one is his. The older one is not, and chooses to have nothing to do with him. The youngest one talks to him daily and sees him every other weekend at the moment, until he attends court and a decision is made regarding his issues. My oldest daughters father and I have a great relationship, and have always put our child before ourselves. I am hoping the same for my youngest.

I am glad this meeting is finally happening, but of course I'm stressed to the gills about it...worried about the what ifs, the maybes, the...............

any good vibes would be appreciated.

It will be nice to have a direction. For the last 2 months I haven't had a clue as to where I stand, what's happening, etc. This meeting will give me a direction, knowledge and a road to travel. It will help my girls who are both very worried as well.

Lots of good for an outcome that will put my childrens needs before anyone elses would be appreciated.
The only thing I don't want to hear, is that he is being unreasonable and this will be dragged into Family Court. That will turn a "simple complicated" situation into a "complex long drawn out complicated" situation, and will benefit noone except the lawyers. I do not want to be dragged through court..... I can handle everything else.... just not court for this.

sorry for the long read, and thank you for those that made it through.


Hope this all makes sense, I've not been sleeping well and am about to try to sleep now......

Thank you all for your continued support and encouragement.
post #2 of 30
Sending monster mega vibes


You deserve to get choice #1 in housing

Hoping that the lawyers are sensible and you settle
post #3 of 30
Lots of vibes Chris I'm so sorry your going through this and in this way!

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post #4 of 30
Every possible :vibe: I can send your way is being sent.

post #5 of 30


None of this is ever any fun.

One hot tip: Put pressure on your lawyer to never miss another meeting. Your husband will view that as intentional harassment, and it puts pressure on an already uncomfortable situation. Too much of the argument in these instances comes from peripherals that under other circumstances would be insignificant.
post #6 of 30
Chris,I just want you to know that I've read your entire post and I'm showering you and your girls in lots of vibes and prayers! Keep your head held high; it will all work out! You are a strong, wonderful woman; you're going to make it through these bumps in the road, I have no doubt!

post #7 of 30
Chris, you have all my vibes!



Remember, no matter what happens, things work themselves out
post #8 of 30
Lots of good coming for you and the girls, Chris.
post #9 of 30
Sending lots of that everything will go OK for you and your daughters.

post #10 of 30
I am so sorry you and your girls are in this situation. Many prayers are going your way.
post #11 of 30
Chris, many and prayers going out to you! . I can't even imagine what you are going through right now.

I have never gone through a divorce, but I have had friends who have gone through them. Some were nasty, some were not so nasty. One thing I've seen is once there is a cooling off period (ie, between the time the decision is made until when the parties actually meet with the lawyers which is usually a few months), both parties are more reasonable and willing to work with each other. I hope this is the case here because he has to realize his daughter comes first.

Another thing, is he going to pay alimony and child support? Does he have a 401K? If so, you should check into getting a payment from that for the time period you were married.

I don't know all the details of your situation but it sounds like your going to get royally screwed. Hopefully he's calmed down a bit and is willing to listen to reason.
post #12 of 30
Chris, there's one thing that puzzles me; I hope I'm not asking for too many details, but here goes.
Why should you have to move out of your home? Where I live, he would be required to pay child support and alimony. You could ask for and would probably receive the house until your/his daughter is out of college. If he couldn't make the payments, he'd need to find another job. (I have a niece going thru a nasty divorce, 99% of her making; she was the 'bread winner' while her husband stayed home and raised their 4 kids; he has custody --which is a very good thing--and she pays child support; when/if the divorce becomes final her ex will receive alimony; he and the kids are living in the marital home and would continue to do so if she hadn't defaulted on the mortgage; at some point, the ex and kids will have to move but only because they owe so much on the house and the bank is taking it over)

I know how easy this is for me to say from where I'm sitting, but don't let yourself be steam-rolled over. If you need a vehicle and he already has one, you are entitled to that truck. If you need a place to live and a means of paying for it, he should be footing the bills. Please, please don't go into this thinking everything has to be equal, because it doesn't! It sounds as if he screwed up, the divorce is because of something he did, now he needs to pay for it. And I'm not trying to sound vindictive, I'm just stating the facts.

I can imagine how difficult this is for you and your girls. Please know that you and your family are in my thoughts and prayers Be strong, honey; we may only be there with you in spirit, but we are with you
post #13 of 30
You've got all the vibes I can throw your way, Chris.

That's a good point though, which I hadn't thought of before libby74 posted about it- in the US, different states have different laws, but I think the majority if not all have laws that protect pouses during divorce. The one making more money has to support the other, especially if thre are children. He should have to pay you child support for your youngest at least, if not alimony for you too. Trying to think back from when I worked in a real estate office, I think in Pennsylvania property laws are that if a couple gets divorced, the wife gets the house automatically. Not sure if that means the husband still has to pay for it or if the wife is 'stuck' with it and has to sell if she can't afford to keep it, but there are protections in place. Definitely ask about Ontario laws.

I am just so sorry that you are being dragged through this mess. I wish you all the best for your meeting on Friday. Like you said, to get any answers so you know how to proceed. But I do hope you get good answers.
post #14 of 30
Many vibes from me that all goes ok and you get what you and hte girls need.
post #15 of 30
I wish you the best of luck, I hope everything works out for you and your daughters in the long run. Sorry for all you're going through.
post #16 of 30
Good Luck with all 3!
post #17 of 30
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Originally Posted by libby74 View Post
Chris, there's one thing that puzzles me; I hope I'm not asking for too many details, but here goes.
Why should you have to move out of your home? Where I live, he would be required to pay child support and alimony. You could ask for and would probably receive the house until your/his daughter is out of college. If he couldn't make the payments, he'd need to find another job. (I have a niece going thru a nasty divorce, 99% of her making; she was the 'bread winner' while her husband stayed home and raised their 4 kids; he has custody --which is a very good thing--and she pays child support; when/if the divorce becomes final her ex will receive alimony; he and the kids are living in the marital home and would continue to do so if she hadn't defaulted on the mortgage; at some point, the ex and kids will have to move but only because they owe so much on the house and the bank is taking it over)

I know how easy this is for me to say from where I'm sitting, but don't let yourself be steam-rolled over. If you need a vehicle and he already has one, you are entitled to that truck. If you need a place to live and a means of paying for it, he should be footing the bills. Please, please don't go into this thinking everything has to be equal, because it doesn't! It sounds as if he screwed up, the divorce is because of something he did, now he needs to pay for it. And I'm not trying to sound vindictive, I'm just stating the facts.

I can imagine how difficult this is for you and your girls. Please know that you and your family are in my thoughts and prayers Be strong, honey; we may only be there with you in spirit, but we are with you
Yes, absolutely agree with Libby !!!!! This should be going more your way than his. I was thinking the same thing as Libby, why should you have to move from the house? I understand you say you can't afford the home, but he "should" (being the imperative word ) be responsible for paying YOU for a portion of the mortgage.... I guess your lawyer would know more on this

Loads more prayers coming your way today, Chris
Best, Lauren
post #18 of 30
You and your family are in my prayers. May God soften your husband's heart and make your children the priority so that the outcome exceeds what you have asked. God bless you all.
post #19 of 30
Chris, sending you lots of strong and prayers your way. Hope all goes well for you. {{{{hugs}}}} Because I know you can use them
post #20 of 30
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Originally Posted by StarryEyedTiGeR View Post
Chris,I just want you to know that I've read your entire post and I'm showering you and your girls in lots of vibes and prayers! Keep your head held high; it will all work out! You are a strong, wonderful woman; you're going to make it through these bumps in the road, I have no doubt!

I don't know divorce law in Canada, but I do know you and the girls deserve to live in your home, and as the provider for the family, he should be paying for it. I am sending vibes that he will do this even if the law doesn't make him. However, I assume you've been looking for alternate housing because the Women's Shelter people and the lawyer agree on rights and laws and probable outcomes, and have informed you that you need to and understand the current situation.




and, of course,
post #21 of 30
Chris sending you lots of vibes and hugs,I hope everything works out for you,you deserve it after all you have been through.xx
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post #23 of 30
I'm sorry you and your girls have to go through this :vi bes:I am sending you mega vibes and hoping you get everything you want for you and your daughters.
post #24 of 30
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Originally Posted by calico2222 View Post

Another thing, is he going to pay alimony and child support? Does he have a 401K? If so, you should check into getting a payment from that for the time period you were married.
Yes, he will have to pay full child support for his child, partial support for my older daughter, and some spousal support.

Where I am getting screwed is that currently, in lieu of the above, he is paying the full mortgage and utility bills (which do total the approx $ of what he will have to pay me once things move on). I am paying groceries, pet care, bills in my name, gas for the truck, etc.

He has screwed me on the last credit card bill, which is in my name but has 4 days of charges prior to seperation, and he is refusing to pay. In those 4 days, I spent roughly $1000 because I had to go get my daughter from summer camp (2 tanks of gas, and 2 hotel nights) and some back to school shopping and groceries...but it was mainly the trip that cost so much. I AM fighting for this, as the dates were prior to separation so he SHOULD IMO pay for those costs.

We don't have 401Ks here, I'm not sure what exactly they are.


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Originally Posted by libby74 View Post
Chris, there's one thing that puzzles me; I hope I'm not asking for too many details, but here goes.
Why should you have to move out of your home?
In order for me to stay in the home, I would have to buy him out of his share, as well as be able to get a mortgage in my name and afford it along with the bills, which I cannot.

Technically, it's not "my" home...... it is "our" home. The way the laws work is that both parties have a right to stay in the home (if it weren't for the Police involvement, he could actually come back into the home and refuse to leave).

Does that help explain it?

I don't mind the questions, I just don't know how to answer sometimes. This is all new to me.
When my oldest daughters father left, it was my apartment, my this and that...... so there was no complications, he simply moved out and it was done.
This time, we've been common law for 9yrs, jointly own the house/truck, and he is the type to do things out of spite.

I can say this much....

On Aug.23, I spent 6hrs in a holding cell in the town jail because of my actions. My children were with him and the police. During that time, an officer came in and told me I had to find a new address for me and my kids, in order to be released. ?????????????????????
I questioned the officer as the house is "ours", and he explained that at the time, my husband was refusing to leave the home and because I was the one who could not go near him, I would have to find a new residence.
He has family around to stay with. I have no one.
He was willing to make the children and I go to a shelter, disrupt their lives even more than what was already done, just to spite me.

My daughter cried to an Officer about not having anywhere to go and him having lots of places to go....the Officer talked to him, then a couple hours later came back and told me I was "lucky that he was willing to go elsewhere".

And it hasn't stopped since that date. I'm the one "better off" since it was "detrimental" to him to have to leave.

It was that in itself that told me we were done.
We had been trying for 3yrs, the last year being awful, but I just could not give up hope. At one point I loved this man so much, and rarely but occassionally I could see that person in him.... I couldn't give up hope untill he showed his true colours of being willing to send me and the children to a homeless shelter after I slapped him ONCE, and only once. He didn't call the cops because he was scared of me, he called because we argued for 10mins after I had slapped him, and I repeatedly said I am done listening to you, I am done letting you hurt me and my girls, I will NOT listen any more. He calmly said "Well if you are not going to listen, I guess I should call the cops" and that's just what he did.

and here we are now. I was wrong in what I did, I know that, and do regret it. We all have our breaking points is all I can say.

I appreciate the support very much and right now I am just hoping that I get into one of the good co-ops. They are very nice places, and me and my girls could call them home
post #25 of 30
I'm sorry you are going through this
post #26 of 30
Just a quick question, Chris: are you POSITIVE you would have to buy out his half of the house? Asking because around here the person who gets physical custody of the child/children usually lives in the marital home until the youngest child is out of school.
I know what a strong woman you are; my only advice would be to play hard ball when it comes to terms of the settlement. I can only imagine how this has turned your entire life upside down. You are on my mind so often; please take care of yourself, and fight for what's yours.
post #27 of 30
I know that you have the strength to get through all of this sweetie. Sending vibes for you and your beautiful girls.
post #28 of 30
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Originally Posted by Snake_Lady View Post

We don't have 401Ks here, I'm not sure what exactly they are.
Chris, a 401K is a retirement plan where the person contributes money from their paycheck usually before taxes are taken out. It's probably called something else in Canada since "401K" is a US IRS term, but I'm pretty sure they have them up there. He may not have told you about having one, but it's worth having your lawyers look in to it. In the US most spouses are entitled to a portion that was contributed during the years they were married (even common law if recognized by the state). You deserve to get every penny you have coming to you. A lump sum from that would help you and your girls get back on your feet.

He definitely sounds like a vindictive SOB.
post #29 of 30
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Originally Posted by libby74 View Post
Just a quick question, Chris: are you POSITIVE you would have to buy out his half of the house? Asking because around here the person who gets physical custody of the child/children usually lives in the marital home until the youngest child is out of school.
I know what a strong woman you are; my only advice would be to play hard ball when it comes to terms of the settlement. I can only imagine how this has turned your entire life upside down. You are on my mind so often; please take care of yourself, and fight for what's yours.
I know you want to avoid court, Chris, but please talk to your lawyer and the shelter worker. Mark knows your fears: don't let him play on them. I agree - play hardball if you have to. I know when it comes to your girls you're a tiger, Chris.
post #30 of 30
Sweetie, I agree, play hardball as best you can. I hope you have a really good lawyer fighting for your rights as I am sure you do. I think of you and your lovely daughter's often. and sending loads of prayers to you...
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