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Not sure where this belonged... but Steve Jobs passed away. Such a revolutionary... amazing life he lived.
post #2 of 11
Wow. . .I knew he recently stepped down as CEO "because of his health", but they never let on it was that serious. Sad for his friends and family.

A link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44794300...iness/deck/msn
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Originally Posted by Willowy View Post
Wow. . .I knew he recently stepped down as CEO "because of his health", but they never let on it was that serious.
He didn't really "step down" as much as the board had finally forced the issue according to insiders. And no, they didn't disclose it, which IMO was immoral even if not illegal for both himself and the board to stay silent so as not to erode their wealth (Steve's alone was in excess of $8 billion) of which much was in company stock.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/02/news...une/index4.htm

The condition, when promptly treated, also has over a 90% full recovery rate. Steve was always a big advocate of vegetarianism and herbal healing and alternative medicine though, and refused unanimous call from the country's best medical professionals for immediate surgery waiting over 9 months at which point he was already sickly looking, and ultimately I think it cost him his life.

Founder of the Stanford Social Innovation Review called Apple one of "America's Least Philanthropic Companies." Jobs had terminated all of Apple's long-standing corporate philanthropy programs within weeks after returning to Apple in 1997, citing the need to cut costs until profitability rebounded. But the programs have never been restored despite massive profitability, both personally and of the company. Especially sad were the rash of suicides at Foxconn plants where the Apple products were made in China, due to abhorrent conditions and feeling of hopelessness of those that felt trapped in the factories (where they permanently lived and left only on Sundays).

So while I feel sorry for his family's loss, I find it hard to mourn the person in light of what I've read of him of his treatment of other's at the company and even his own child that he allowed to live on welfare despite his own great fortune and refused to even pay child support until the court forced it on him.

There are just so many real heroes dying every day that deserve the attention much more.
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Originally Posted by Ducman69 View Post
He didn't really "step down" as much as the board had finally forced the issue according to insiders. And no, they didn't disclose it, which IMO was immoral even if not illegal for both himself and the board to stay silent so as not to erode their wealth (Steve's alone was in excess of $8 billion) of which much was in company stock.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/02/news...une/index4.htm

The condition, when promptly treated, also has over a 90% full recovery rate. Steve was always a big advocate of vegetarianism and herbal healing and alternative medicine though, and refused unanimous call from the country's best medical professionals for immediate surgery waiting over 9 months at which point he was already sickly looking, and ultimately I think it cost him his life.
So Steve was lying at his speech at Stanford when he said he had immediate biopsy (actually on the same evening of his diagnosis) - then Surgery?

Where did you get this information - that he waited so long? Because what I read from the medical community is that he did all he could, used all his resources, and probably very little if anything could be done differently.
IMHO, kuddos for him to be a vegetarian on the top of it and take good care of his health and shape - I see nothing wrong with that. He fought very very hard for his life, going as far as having a liver transplant - which is not an easy thing to go through, and I find those statements quite light and unfair to be thrown at someone who fought SO much for his life.
Furthermore - Sickly looking? this speech - the video - is a year after the diagnosis... He does NOT look sickly to me in there AT ALL.

RIP Steve - I Mourn you. You were a respectable, AMAZING man - your words on this speech, and in everything I have ever heard from you - will stay with me in my throughout my life. Thank you for the valuable lessons - you were an example to be followed.

Brilliant man.

"Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking. Don't settle. As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it. And, like any great relationship, it just gets better and better as the years roll on."


"Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary." Steve Jobs

Of course... From his speech at Stanford http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF8uR6Z6KLc

1955-2011
post #5 of 11
I also would like to know where you got your information Ducman... Although to be perfectly honest, I find it kind of distasteful to say the kind of things you are saying in a thread clearly made for people who are mourning his death...


I actually was quite in shock when I heard he had passed away.. I had JUST been talking to my friend the day before about how I thought Apple would start going downhill without Steve and he said that everything would be fine since he is still on the board, and I mentioned he was quite ill and might not have much time, and then the next day he passed... I know my friend is in even more shock than I.
I personally don't think he was a great inventor, but instead a great business man and marketer. (Which doesn't make him any less of a huge influence on society.) He took a product and made it user-friendly, attractive and stylish, and marketed it in a way so that everybody who was anybody would want it. And that is an accomplishment in itself.

You'll be missed Steve...
post #6 of 11
I think it's sad to lose such a brilliant mind. I love Apple products, and still adore my 5 year old macbook!!

Goes to show you that illness has no boundaries and anyone despite wealth and fame, can be taken so early in life.
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So Steve was lying at his speech at Stanford when he said he had immediate biopsy (actually on the same evening of his diagnosis) - then Surgery?
Yes, he lied. You can google for multiple sources, or read the CNN article I linked to. The tumor was discovered in October of 2003.
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Apple director Levinson, who has a Ph.D. in biochemistry, monitored the situation for the board. He and another director, Bill Campbell, tried to persuade Jobs to have the surgery. "There was genuine concern on the part of several board members that he may not have been doing the best thing for his health," says one insider. "But Steve is Steve. He can be pretty stubborn."
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I also find it distasteful to turn a "RIP" thread into an "IMO" thread. A separate topic in the "IMO" would have been more thoughtful and, perhaps, less jarring.

An innovative and brilliant man, and his words in his speech at Stanford, (thank you, Carolina, for quoting that) can resonate with so many people. Valuable lessons, indeed.

And I believe a person with cancer has every right in the world to choose whatever treatments they wish to fight as hard as they can against this evil disease.

RIP, Steve Jobs. You and your ideas and your drive will be greatly missed.
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I also find it distasteful to turn a "RIP" thread into an "IMO" thread. A separate topic in the "IMO" would have been more thoughtful and, perhaps, less jarring.

An innovative and brilliant man, and his words in his speech at Stanford, (thank you, Carolina, for quoting that) can resonate with so many people. Valuable lessons, indeed.

And I believe a person with cancer has every right in the world to choose whatever treatments they wish to fight as hard as they can against this evil disease.

RIP, Steve Jobs. You and your ideas and your drive will be greatly missed.
I agree. An american icon. He will be a subject on History Channel and Biography soon.
post #10 of 11
i don't think his illness was anything but a personal issue for him. Stockholders own Apple, not Steve Jobs.

His treatment was his business and as long as his ability to work were not affected, it is none of the stock holders business either.

Like I said previously, such a brilliant mind is sad to lose.
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Originally Posted by nanner View Post
I also find it distasteful to turn a "RIP" thread into an "IMO" thread. A separate topic in the "IMO" would have been more thoughtful and, perhaps, less jarring.

An innovative and brilliant man, and his words in his speech at Stanford, (thank you, Carolina, for quoting that) can resonate with so many people. Valuable lessons, indeed.

And I believe a person with cancer has every right in the world to choose whatever treatments they wish to fight as hard as they can against this evil disease.

RIP, Steve Jobs. You and your ideas and your drive will be greatly missed.
Excellent post. Thank you. He was brilliant and amazing.
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