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post #1 of 27
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The chemotherapy appears to have affected Lazlo's sense of smell, which, in turn, is impacting his eating.

I broke out the Fancy Feast (salmon, classic formulas are the only ones I buy). He ate a reasonable amount. I crumbled some human tuna on top, to see if he'd eat more. He took one sniff and went at it.

Obviously, feeding him human tuna is not an option LOL.

I ordered a number of natural freeze-dried treats that I'll be able to try to see what he likes and encourages him to eat on his own (mackerel, cod, salmon, shrimp... I don't remember what else, in addition to the beef/bison liver). But these will take some time to get here.

In the meantime, any ideas on what I can feed him that is stinky enough he'll be stimulated to eat it?

We were about to head out to the pet food store to get the Weruva fishy flavors, but then our power went out. We'll be able to head out tomorrow. I normally avoid fish-related stuff for the most part, but I think for a few weeks it is better he eats.

(I do and can syringe feed him without problem, but I'd much rather he were eating on his own if possible).

Thanks for any suggestions!
post #2 of 27
I've been using bonito flakes (aka Kitty Kavier) a lot lately. They have a very strong odor so you don't need to use much. I grind the flakes in a coffee grinder so it's easier to use a small amount. I use it to give the kitties food a flavor burst as a treat.

If you have an Asian market nearby bonito flakes can be purchased a lot cheaper than the Kitty Kavier at the pet store.
post #3 of 27
Oh Laurie - this is tough!

Buddy loves the Weruva Cats In the Kitchen Love Me Tender Pouches

http://www.petflow.com/product/weruv...tender-pouches

and that's sayin' something - in fact no one seems to turn his/her nose up at that.

I haven't had to go to the fish flavors because he'll eat this - it's duck and chicken

(I'm doing all my cat shopping at PetFlow now.)

I'm glad that he accepts the syringe feeding - hopefully this will get him over the hump until he can smell his food again.

Until then, probably only the stinky fishy stuff will be your only chance of him smelling anything.

for you and Lazio
post #4 of 27
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Thanks.

We actually have bonito flakes here, that's why I didn't order it. I haven't tried it yet. But the coffee grinder is a great idea. The liver treats powder so easily, I haven't had to consider how to powder the treats yet. Thanks for that.

Power still isn't on, so pet store'll have to be tomorrow.

But the oncologist called. They suggested baby food, boneless sardines, liverworst, keep using the tuna, mashed up fois gras LOL. I don't know where my brain is, we have babyfood on hand. But I think I'll hold off on the others.

Someone also reminded me just heating up the food may help. Been a while (what a blessing, right?) since we had a sick kitty that needed help eating. The last three rescues have the opposite problem LOL, the little piggies.
post #5 of 27
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Thanks.

We actually have bonito flakes here, that's why I didn't order it. I haven't tried it yet. But the coffee grinder is a great idea. The liver treats powder so easily, I haven't had to consider how to powder the treats yet. Thanks for that.

Power still isn't on, so pet store'll have to be tomorrow.

But the oncologist called. They suggested baby food, boneless sardines, liverworst, keep using the tuna, mashed up fois gras LOL. I don't know where my brain is, we have babyfood on hand. But I think I'll hold off on the others.

Someone also reminded me just heating up the food may help. Been a while (what a blessing, right?) since we had a sick kitty that needed help eating. The last three rescues have the opposite problem LOL, the little piggies.
The oncologist gave you what would have been my two suggestions: fresh or canned-in-water-no-salt-added Sardines and warming the food with a tablespoon of hot water.

I truly hope one or several of the suggestions work!

AC
post #6 of 27
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The oncologist gave you what would have been my two suggestions: fresh or canned-in-water-no-salt-added Sardines and warming the food with a tablespoon of hot water.

I truly hope one or several of the suggestions work!

AC
I'll see if we can find them. Not being a sardine eater, I thought they were packed in oil. . I guess tuna used to come only that way and became available with water many years ago, so why not sardines, right?
post #7 of 27
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I'll see if we can find them. Not being a sardine eater, I thought they were packed in oil. . I guess tuna used to come only that way and became available with water many years ago, so why not sardines, right?
You can buy sardines frozen, or canned in either water or oil, with or without salt added. So you have to read the fine print when shopping for them.

AC
post #8 of 27
You have a PM ... though baby food is a very good option
post #9 of 27
I thought about Baby Food earlier - but thought it wouldn't really have a strong scent, like the sardine-like foods would.

I hope you get your power on soon!!! whew!
post #10 of 27
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We got our power back!

I heated up half a jar of chicken baby food (and Gloria, for your future reference, it stank LOL. I forgot how strong that stuff smells!). Lazlo ate all of it. So I waited 15 minutes and heated up the rest. He polished it off.

I am going to try the other ideas though. I want him eating on his own, and if he likes sardines, adding them to cat food is probably a good way to get him getting more complete nutrition.
post #11 of 27
YAY for power!! Very relieved to hear this.... Heated food is a good appetite stimulant for cats and dogs.

I will repeat in short from the other thread. Try Stella and Chewey's freeze-dried raw cubes. I wet mine with water first and they sit in a bowl for a minute. The cats go nuts for these and line-up. I offer them as a healthy treat. Also, the owner of my natural pet food store suggests grated Parmesan Cheese sprinkled on top of the food (both cats and dogs) either they will love it or hate it. Just something else to try. I can find Sardines in water at my local Jewel and have used this for Wilbur as well. I have a whole arsenal of "the taste of the day" weapons.

p.s. I also add "whatever" to a small amount of dog kibble for Wilbur, that way I at least feel he is getting SOME dog food
post #12 of 27
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Thanks for posting this here, too, Lauren. If anyone's looking up how to help entice their kitty to eat, hopefully this'll be a good reference thread.
post #13 of 27
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Originally Posted by LDG View Post
We got our power back!

I heated up half a jar of chicken baby food (and Gloria, for your future reference, it stank LOL. I forgot how strong that stuff smells!). Lazlo ate all of it. So I waited 15 minutes and heated up the rest. He polished it off.

I am going to try the other ideas though. I want him eating on his own, and if he likes sardines, adding them to cat food is probably a good way to get him getting more complete nutrition.
So happy that the baby food was good and stinkin'!!!! I never would have guessed that.

You can't see me - but I am jumpin' up and down for this success - more for Lazio's eating than for you getting your power back - altho' I know that is also a wonderful event.
post #14 of 27
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Thanks for posting this here, too, Lauren. If anyone's looking up how to help entice their kitty to eat, hopefully this'll be a good reference thread.
Boy! Do I agree! I'm marking this thread - I have some picky eaters, and find myself throwing away expensive food - maybe these ideas will benefit my crew, as well as my pocketbook.
post #15 of 27
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...You can't see me - but I am jumpin' up and down for this success - more for Lazio's eating than for you getting your power back - altho' I know that is also a wonderful event.
But getting power back meant hot food!
post #16 of 27
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But getting power back meant hot food!
Shoot! I thought you may have a gas stove, yikes!

You could always turn on your car and heat up the engine, then put the food on the engine block to heat it - or- if you had a camping stove?

BTW, I have one cat that will eat only warmed food - glad the combination of what you're using for Lazio to eat is so successful, really an answer to prayer, for sure.

Continued for all of you - hope Gary is doing better.
post #17 of 27
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Oh we do have a gas stove! I guess we could have heated up water and added it to the food (as AC suggested). I tossed it in the microwave for 7 seconds LOL.

And we also have a camping stove. That was a lifesaver when we lived in a house - we kept boiling water to add to the fish tank to keep them alive (the power went out for over a week in the winter).

Their last meal of the day is in a little bit. I'm going to just try heating up some cat food.
post #18 of 27
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Originally Posted by LDG View Post
The chemotherapy appears to have affected Lazlo's sense of smell, which, in turn, is impacting his eating.

I broke out the Fancy Feast (salmon, classic formulas are the only ones I buy). He ate a reasonable amount. I crumbled some human tuna on top, to see if he'd eat more. He took one sniff and went at it.

Obviously, feeding him human tuna is not an option LOL.
Why? I know it is not terribly healthy, but if that is what it takes to keep him eating why not? I mean like giving him what amounts to one can of human grade tuna a day.

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Originally Posted by LDG View Post
I ordered a number of natural freeze-dried treats that I'll be able to try to see what he likes and encourages him to eat on his own (mackerel, cod, salmon, shrimp... I don't remember what else, in addition to the beef/bison liver). But these will take some time to get here.

In the meantime, any ideas on what I can feed him that is stinky enough he'll be stimulated to eat it?
None of these are idea's are terribly healthy at all, but I have used them with either animals in veterinarians offices or with shelter/foster cats. Anyway here is the list: cooked turkey, turkey breast, smoked salmon, and the oil from human grade canned tuna.

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Originally Posted by LDG View Post
We were about to head out to the pet food store to get the Weruva fishy flavors, but then our power went out. We'll be able to head out tomorrow. I normally avoid fish-related stuff for the most part, but I think for a few weeks it is better he eats.
Very very wise idea !


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(I do and can syringe feed him without problem, but I'd much rather he were eating on his own if possible).
It is very good that you can do that, but if you do not need to do that then why would you . It will be better for you and your cat if you can keep him eating on his own.
post #19 of 27
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Why? I know it is not terribly healthy, but if that is what it takes to keep him eating why not? I mean like giving him what amounts to one can of human grade tuna a day.

None of these are idea's are terribly healthy at all, but I have used them with either animals in veterinarians offices or with shelter/foster cats. Anyway here is the list: cooked turkey, turkey breast, smoked salmon, and the oil from human grade canned tuna.
Yeah, I ended up going through about 1/2 of a 2.5oz packet of tuna today.

This meal he wouldn't eat heated up beef Evo, heated up chicken Before Grain, or heated up Innova. I gave him the (heated up) ocean fish & tuna Fancy Feast with tuna added. He ate 1/2 a 3 oz. can.
post #20 of 27
There's always KFC - original flavor with skin and bones removed.

You're finding his cheese danish Laurie!!

post #21 of 27
I was informed of a few other VERY unhealthy things you could put on top of your cats food to encourage him to eat. This comes from a friend of mine who needed there cat with cancer to eat. Just so you know.

Anyway you can try: bacon, bacon grease, sausage, and sausage grease. I can say all my cats love the smell of bacon and either need to be put in a different room when it is cooked or be outside.
post #22 of 27
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Well, any other suggestions?

I just might have to resort to trying liverwurst. Haven't tried bacon yet. Really didn't want to. Don't have any. Also really not big on the idea of smoked meats....

Actually.... I might have some Fortiflora from last year. It made Chumley's diarrhea worse, but just a little may stimulate Laz's appetite. Let me go look (and see if it's still good).
post #23 of 27
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I guess it would be better if the Fortiflora were out of date LOL. Then I wouldn't have to worry about how much to give, the probiotics would be dead. I started with a small amount... Lazlo did eventually respond to it, but it took 1/2 a packet.

BUT my holistic vet called earlier. Apparently she tried me last week and I didn't get the message. It must have either gotten zapped with the power problem OR one of the cats played back the messages on the machine.

Anyway, her thoughts on the situation (just for anyone reading the thread):

She does not agree with the "get him to eat at any cost" approach. Don't try things like liverwurst (has onions) or spam (nitrates) or bacon/bacon grease... especially bacon or bacon grease. For small amounts infrequently, that's one thing, but it can cause pancreatitis in cats.

Small amounts of tuna, fine, sardines (water, no bones, no salt), OK.... babyfood, obviously OK. But of course she prefers cat foods, heated up and/or with "toppings" (the freeze dried treats powdered up).

Try eggs, that'd be fine.

Start slow with the Fortiflora, see how his system reacts. But if it doesn't cause diarrhea, then if 1/2 a pack is what it takes to get him interested, then go ahead and use as much as it takes, as often as it takes.
post #24 of 27
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She does not agree with the "get him to eat at any cost" approach. Don't try things like liverwurst (has onions) or spam (nitrates) or bacon/bacon grease... especially bacon or bacon grease. For small amounts infrequently, that's one thing, but it can cause pancreatitis in cats.

Small amounts of tuna, fine, sardines (water, no bones, no salt), OK.... babyfood, obviously OK. But of course she prefers cat foods, heated up and/or with "toppings" (the freeze dried treats powdered up).

Try eggs, that'd be fine.
I asked a veterinarian I know very well and has both personal and professional experience with what you are going threw.

He said small amounts of bacon and bacon grease are fine. By small he means one or two strips in a twenty four hour period. As far as the grease goes he said one spoonful in a twenty four hour period is safe. He said the same for sausage.

He said the only way it is likely to cause pancreatits is if the animal is prone to it or is in that ill of health.

But he said to of course follow your veterinarians advice. He also said if your veterinarian would agree to it some liver it is a good idea possibly. For what it is worth all my cats love liver.

Now my cents are as follows, I always give each of my cats a few pieces of cooked bacon when I make it once a month. The same with the sausage except they get a cooked link each once a month. Also my Shadow and Loki (nutty domestic and hybrid exotic) have both eaten on way more then one occasion , a pound or so of bacon each. They have also both eaten quite a few boxes of sausage raw. They both had no problems, but they where not medically impaired to start with. Just mentally impaired

Also some people, some vets, and I as a vet tech and pet own feel that if an animal has cancer let it eat something/what it wants. Some veterinarians and vet techs do not agree with having a sick cat eat at any cost.

Lastly my DLH Panda will be two years old in February. She has many medical issues and had extreme shyness (but no aggression) so she was given to me (or she would be put down). Well I find all different canned and dry food for her to eat each night (yes they are healthy and all) along with some treats and people food. I do not do this for any other cat. But I do it for her because I want her to enjoy her life. Just so you know I do not feed her a lot of food, but I make sure whatever food she is given she will enjoy.

Hope that made sense. If you need any clarification please let me know . Also sorry for the book.
post #25 of 27
I've fed my kitties sardines packed in water, I found some Whole Foods, but I'm sure they have them other places. I fed them whole to mine, there is no reason they can't eat those bones. As someone that has had chemo and it ruined my taste buds during treatment I found that what tasted good changed so you might need to keep rotating and retrying because it might be accepted later.

Have you tried Wellness pouches? My kitties really love them as they are packed with broth. Personally I'd try some raw chicken, my cats completely freak out around it they love it so much. They come running when the dogs are fed their raw food.
post #26 of 27
I thought of liver sausage as well as Braunschweiger (or is this a wisconsin thing??)
You would have to check the ingredient list to see if onion is added.
post #27 of 27
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I bought some Braunschweiger today. I think it's a German thing. But of course, it does have the onions. I'm sure the small amount wouldn't be a problem, but.... he is already anemic. But Gary loves it, so it's not going to waste.

And yes, the juice from wellness pounces he lapped up yesterday. Didn't want the rest of it though.

Melesine, thank you for that information about what tasted good changed. I'm so sorry you had to go through it, and I hope you won't have to again.

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I asked a veterinarian I know very well and has both personal and professional experience with what you are going threw.

He said small amounts of bacon and bacon grease are fine. By small he means one or two strips in a twenty four hour period. As far as the grease goes he said one spoonful in a twenty four hour period is safe. He said the same for sausage.

He said the only way it is likely to cause pancreatits is if the animal is prone to it or is in that ill of health.
I suspect my vet had a much smaller amount in mind when she said small, LOL, but either way. The information wasn't out there, now it is.

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He also said if your veterinarian would agree to it some liver it is a good idea possibly. For what it is worth all my cats love liver.
That was the first thing she recommended. At first he really enjoyed it, both chicken and beef. Now the only way he likes it is freeze dried, and that only if powdered on his food, and even that's not something he's enjoying most of the time now.

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Also some people, some vets, and I as a vet tech and pet own feel that if an animal has cancer let it eat something/what it wants. Some veterinarians and vet techs do not agree with having a sick cat eat at any cost.
I'm in the camp of believing that an animal with a terminal illness should be given pretty much whatever he or she wants. But Lazlo, hopefully, isn't at "the end" yet, so I don't want to impair his chances of recovery or how impact how he feels with digestive issues on top of the chemo. His cancer is a mass in his stomach to begin with, and he's just recovered from bleeding ulcers.

However, right now, it's all pretty moot as he's just not enjoying food, period.

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Hope that made sense. If you need any clarification please let me know . Also sorry for the book.
No need to apologize, I write lots of books as posts LOL. Made pleny of sense, thank you.
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