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Is IT "Made in America" or "Made in the U.S.A."?

post #1 of 21
9/9/11 at 11:40am
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I heard Prez say in his speech of 9/8/11 the following:
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... So, some things we can do on our own. Other steps will require congressional action. Today you passed reform that will speed up the outdated patent process, so that entrepreneurs can turn a new idea into a new business as quickly as possible. That’s the kind of action we need. Now it’s time to clear the way for a series of trade agreements that would make it easier for American companies to sell their products in Panama and Colombia and South Korea -– while also helping the workers whose jobs have been affected by global competition. (Applause.) If Americans can buy Kias and Hyundais, I want to see folks in South Korea driving Fords and Chevys and Chryslers. (Applause.) I want to see more products sold around the world stamped with the three proud words:
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“Made in America.â€
That’s what we need to get done. (Applause.) ...
(http://www.politico.com/news/stories...043_Page3.html)

I was taught that the name of our Country is the United States of America, and that America is the location of the Continent where the Country of the United States is located - surely the Prez didn't mean to say that he wanted to include all those other America countries in the "Made in America" logo?

Sorry, just one of my pet peeves.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas

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... Geography

Further information: Geography of North America and Geography of South America
The northernmost point of the Americas is Kaffeklubben Island, which is the northernmost point of land on Earth.[30] The southernmost point is the islands of Southern Thule, although they are sometimes considered part of Antarctica.[31] The easternmost point is Nordostrundingen. The westernmost point is Attu Island.
The mainland of the Americas is the longest north-to-south landmass on Earth. At its longest, it stretches roughly 14,000 kilometres, (just under 8700 miles) from the Boothia Peninsula in northern Canada to Cape Froward in Chilean Patagonia. The westernmost point of the mainland of the Americas is the end of the Seward Peninsula in Alaska, while Ponta do Seixas in northeastern Brazil forms the mainland's easternmost extremity.[32]...
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post #2 of 21
9/9/11 at 11:50am
I buy things made in the USA. Made in America could mean North, South or Central...

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post #3 of 21
9/9/11 at 12:15pm
If you're traveling abroad and somebody asks where you're from, would you say you're an "American" or a "U.S. citizen"? The latter is of course the "correct" answer, but most people would probably say "American".

I've never had anybody other than a (U.S. or foreign) government official describe me as a "U.S. citizen".
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post #4 of 21
9/9/11 at 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by GloriaJH View Post
I heard Prez say in his speech of 9/8/11 the following:

(http://www.politico.com/news/stories...043_Page3.html)

I was taught that the name of our Country is the United States of America, and that America is the location of the Continent where the Country of the United States is located - surely the Prez didn't mean to say that he wanted to include all those other America countries in the "Made in America" logo?

Sorry, just one of my pet peeves.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas
It's a peeve of mine as well, but it's been peeved for decades...think "My fellow Americans..."
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post #5 of 21
9/9/11 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
If you're traveling abroad and somebody asks where you're from, would you say you're an "American" or a "U.S. citizen"? The latter is of course the "correct" answer, but most people would probably say "American".

I've never had anybody other than a (U.S. or foreign) government official describe me as a "U.S. citizen".
I am an American (which is true I'm from North America ) but if someone asks me where I'm from I say "I'm from the US" (Unless of course they have bombs strapped to their bodies, and look a little upset-then I say "I'm Canadian" Who doesn't like Canadians? )
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post #6 of 21
9/9/11 at 12:59pm
It doesn't matter if anyhow, because nothing is made in the USA anymore. All we have is garbage made in China.
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post #7 of 21
9/9/11 at 1:04pm
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Originally Posted by AmberThe Bobcat View Post
It doesn't matter if anyhow, because nothing is made in the USA anymore. All we have is garbage made in China.
Yes, but that is because few people could afford goods made in North America due to the fact the Unions have negotiated such high salaries no company could make any profit if they sold their goods for prices that people are willing to pay. So, we buy the cheap stuff from China, throw it in the landfills when it breaks or when we are finished with it and just buy new cheap stuff.
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post #8 of 21
9/9/11 at 1:35pm
Name one other country in the world that has the name "America" in it? If there was a United Socialist Republic of America down South (btw, that would be a more appropriate name for California don't you think), there might be some confusion, but luckily there aint.

America, is simply an abbreviation of United States of America, which is a mouthful at 9 syllables when most countries are only 2.

And I am certainly not going to call myself a USA'an, I'm an American.

Besides, everyone knows that the United States of America is the Best America!
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post #9 of 21
9/9/11 at 3:42pm
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
Yes, but that is because few people could afford goods made in North America due to the fact the Unions have negotiated such high salaries no company could make any profit if they sold their goods for prices that people are willing to pay. So, we buy the cheap stuff from China, throw it in the landfills when it breaks or when we are finished with it and just buy new cheap stuff.
This is SO not true. You pay the same price for this stuff made over seas, because it costs so much to get it here. Prices are not cheaper. And I would rather pay for goods made here, under union labor, good quality stuff that lasted, instead of garbage made in China. Some things may cost a little less, because you are getting what you pay for...garbage. So if you have to buy more of this junk made in China, even IF it is cheaper, how is it saving you money?? It isn't!! I remember when I could buy lets say, a pair of jeans made in the USA. They lasted me for years, until they almost faded white. Now, you get over seas made junk that MAY last a year and it costs about the same. Unions are NOT the problem and I am so tired of hearing such a stupid excuse.
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post #10 of 21
9/9/11 at 4:45pm
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
Yes, but that is because few people could afford goods made in North America due to the fact the Unions have negotiated such high salaries no company could make any profit if they sold their goods for prices that people are willing to pay. So, we buy the cheap stuff from China, throw it in the landfills when it breaks or when we are finished with it and just buy new cheap stuff.
It has nothing t do with Unions and everything to do with the fact that companies can get "slave labor" in China and would have to pay Americans (I consider myself American, not USA-n) a living wage. The way prices for everything, from food, housing, transportion, etc. are in this country, we couldn't make it on what they pay the average Chinese worker.
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post #11 of 21
9/9/11 at 5:59pm
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Originally Posted by Misty8723 View Post
It has nothing t do with Unions and everything to do with the fact that companies can get "slave labor" in China and would have to pay Americans (I consider myself American, not USA-n) a living wage. The way prices for everything, from food, housing, transportion, etc. are in this country, we couldn't make it on what they pay the average Chinese worker.
Ooooh, I do think it does have Something to do with union's requirements of benefits, and wages, too - as well as all the government regulations, and things like regulating the minimum wage.

I retired from a manufacturer that (a family-owned small business) had no choice but to send work to another country in order to survive. So, I know first hand about a small business wanting to have the Stamp - "Made in the USA" on their products, but couldn't afford it.

BTW, I have a stamp on the bottom of my foot that says "Made In The USA". Several other countries contributed, but I was made here.
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post #12 of 21
9/10/11 at 3:18am
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And I am certainly not going to call myself a USA'an, I'm an American.

Besides, everyone knows that the United States of America is the Best America!
I agree completely!!
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post #13 of 21
9/10/11 at 6:10am
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Originally Posted by GloriaJH View Post
Ooooh, I do think it does have Something to do with union's requirements of benefits, and wages, too - as well as all the government regulations, and things like regulating the minimum wage.

I retired from a manufacturer that (a family-owned small business) had no choice but to send work to another country in order to survive. So, I know first hand about a small business wanting to have the Stamp - "Made in the USA" on their products, but couldn't afford it.

BTW, I have a stamp on the bottom of my foot that says "Made In The USA". Several other countries contributed, but I was made here.
Exactly! Anything I buy that says "Made in Canada" certainly is more costly than what I can get at a place like Walmart or Target. Mind you, when I choose to buy quality and pay the price, I do not buy foreign made products because as John says, the foreign stuff is usually junk, except for electronics from Japan.
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post #14 of 21
9/12/11 at 6:05am
I once had a friend (who was Panamanian by family heritage, although he was born in the US) who told me that citizens of Mexico also point out that our country is not the only United States in North America. He says that technically speaking Mexico is the United States of Mexico. I'm not sure I've ever heard that distinction anywhere else.

Today, many Freightliners are built in Mexico and a lot of "American" cars are built in Mexico or Canada. I believe Dottie's Cobalt came from Canada, and I know at least the transmission on my Malibu came from Mexico. If you look at the "Statement of Origin According to Place of Manufacture" (I think that's the term), most Harley Davidson are less American than Kawasakis.

It does get confusing, doesn't it?
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post #15 of 21
9/12/11 at 7:30am
Yeah, I heard that more Honda and Toyota parts are made in the U.S. than Ford and Chevy parts. Which always makes me laugh when people pick on my choice of a Honda.
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post #16 of 21
9/12/11 at 8:45am
if my company makes the items here in USA (ie: Halloween Makeup), it says "Made in USA" on the back. Though for some reason, our Easter grass says "made in America" big on the front.. hmm
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post #17 of 21
9/12/11 at 9:28am
I've never told anyone I am an American OR a U.S. citizen. I say I'm a Texan. Evidently most Texans say that.
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post #18 of 21
9/12/11 at 10:20am
Just my 0.2 dollar observation. I moved from wisc to the east cost and sold/donated most all my stuff. It was me hubby and the cat and what ever we could fit in the car and off we went. When we got here we needed to buy everything. from a lamp to a pillow all dishes,light bulbs ,trash can, cook ware, TV, tray tables, a folding chair ...everything. My first trip was to Walmart to grab all the basics. Made in China, Made in China and Made in China again.

Hubby made the joke, "We are living in China"!
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post #19 of 21
9/15/11 at 7:25pm
America is a continent comprised of North and South America.

Within that continent are countries. One such country is the United States.

So the proper term should be "United States" or "United States of America", not just "America" unless they are of course giving credit to all of the countries within that continent.

Personally I think anyone running for political office should be forced to take a geography course. First Palin thinks Africa is a country and now this one seems to think that the United States is the entire continent, LOL
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post #20 of 21
9/16/11 at 8:29am
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Originally Posted by SwampWitch View Post
I've never told anyone I am an American OR a U.S. citizen. I say I'm a Texan. Evidently most Texans say that.
We've been hearing for years how many US folks, when travelling abroad, say they are Canadian and some actually go so far as to wear a Canadian flag pin.
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post #21 of 21
9/16/11 at 8:33am
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
America is a continent comprised of North and South America.

Within that continent are countries. One such country is the United States.

So the proper term should be "United States" or "United States of America", not just "America" unless they are of course giving credit to all of the countries within that continent.

Personally I think anyone running for political office should be forced to take a geography course. First Palin thinks Africa is a country and now this one seems to think that the United States is the entire continent, LOL
My friend's nephew works for Immigration at the border and some southern Americans came across the border one summer with snow skis on their car roof. I can only guess they assumed that as soon as they crossed the border there would be tons of snow.

I think that's because the US does not teach their students much about the rest of the world - they focus mostly on their own country. Whereas we had to learn (actually memorize) every US state and the capital of each one as well as European geography and this was in Grade 5. Now that was when I was in school many years ago so I don't know if Canada has changed that now.
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