Way Agressive Cat..............

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Hi, Im new here and need some major help with my cat Avalanche,
Hes been to the vet, Hes perfectly healthy, The vet said when i got him fixed it should have helped his agression, But he hurts my family and friends, he attacks for no reason at all!!!!!
I can just be sitting with my friends and he attacks their faces!!!!!
Hes attacked my little brother and sister and i just dont know what to do anymore, We had to get him all 4 paw declaw cause he hurt everyone. I love him so much and it makes me really sad that hes such a mean spirited cat. What should i do?
thanks and please help fast!!!!!!!
 

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Poor kitty- now his only recourse is to fight back against the people who in his eyes hurt him. I wish you had landed here prior to making this decision. Now he will probably be a major behavioral issue and will need someone like a cat behaviorist or some sort of medication to calm down. It could have very well been that he had some sort of neurological problem that was causing him to act out. That would have been determined by a specialist examining him and helping you figure this out.

I don't know his history before he came to you, but if he was a stray then it is anyone's guess what he might have had to endure before he was caught, or if his mom was feral, he would have her genetic traits to deal with.

I would strongly urge you to go to www.meowhoo.com and look up Behavior and see if there is someone in your area that can come to your home and help you and this cat out of the situation.
 

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I am not an advocate of declawing, ya'll know that, but......

Before anyone starts to get rude, remember we don't know the situation entirely.

And yes, there are times when declawing a cat is an option AS A LAST RESORT, when everything has been exhausted.

How many of you know people who took the word of their vet and had their cat declawed as part of a spay/neuter? Or got bad advice and had them declawed without knowing what it really was. We all just didn't wake up one day with the realization that declawing was a bad thing, we had to be educated.

Either way what's done is done, and there is no reason at all to bash someone who obviously feels terrible about what happenned. The best thing to do is what MA suggested, and get educated opn what to do now..

Just my 2 cents.
 
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Well I believe in declawing animals if need be, and he NEEDED to be declawed, If you knew him youd say the same.
I dont believe in letting a cat claw up your furniture and hurt you for no reason at all.
hes always been agressive and mean toward everyone but a selected few.
Hes siamese mix, and very picky.
I thank the ppl that didnt jump on my case right away.
thank you
camie
 

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Camie-

You have landed on a very anti declaw board and I hope no one jumps on you. But no cat needs to be declawed because it tears up the furniture.

About the other issue- can you give us some insight as to this cat's background? Where you got him, if you know anything at all about his previous life?

Right now, this cat is very uncomfortable and feeling off kilter because he no longer has his toes, and he needs his toes in order to walk correctly as cats are digitrade- which means they walk on their toes. With his toes gone missing, and the incredible pain he has had to endure, his only recourse may indeed be to become more aggressive then he was before the four-paw declaw.

Cats are very skilled at not letting us know when they are in pain, even when they are in an incredible amount of pain. Being low on the food chain, they know that if they show any signs of weakness something will happen to them bad.

I am sorry that someone told you that declawing was the only way to fix this problem. You were misinformed and now as I said, you cat will probably only become more and more aggressive until you get a professional in to help you.


I have over 20 cats, all of them were feral at one time, 10 are inside outside, the others prefer outdoors. I have all my furniture intact and all my cats have their claws just as nature intended.

here is an article so perhaps you can see what is being said here:


http://www.thecatsite.com/cat_care/care.php?a=declaw


Best of luck with him
 

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I hope you werent talking to me because I wasnt bashing anyone. 4 paw declaw is SICK and WRONG. Dont even get me started.
 

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I can't say anything better than how Hissy put it. I can add that I've seen many cat parents, myself included, dealing with clawing furniture and aggressive cats, and never "needed" to declaw. I have seen many people working just fine with truly wild feral cats who could put them in the hospital. Respect and understanding is key.

It doesn't seem obvious to you why the cat is "attacking" you, but if you pay attention, you can usually figure out what the trigger is. You mentioned that your cat is nice to just a select few, a "picky" cat. Well, like humans, cats can be particular too. While a person can tell someone to get the hell away from them, a cat can't. My friend has had her cat for 6 years now, she still bites her when she doesn't want to be touched. Every friend that has walked in her home has gotten bitten (blood) if trying to touch her. But she loves her human, and curls up to sleep with her every night.

My friend's cat is also very possessive of "her" house. Do you have someplace high up so your cat could look around without feeling threatened? Did you have some hidey holes that were solely for your cat? Even some boxes with cutout holes that your cat could hide in? Maybe your cat thought people were sitting in "his" spot. My cat will launch at my head when I sit on "his" part of the couch when he wants to sit there. I have a siamese mix too, and he is EXTREMELY possessive. He's also more intelligent and sensitive (jumpy) than my other cats.

Just throwing out ideas here to perhaps get you to think on a different track. What you've been doing to date doesn't seem to be working for you. Your cat is not mean-spirited, he seems pissed. Good luck.
 

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Originally posted by Sicycat
I hope you werent talking to me because I wasnt bashing anyone. 4 paw declaw is SICK and WRONG. Dont even get me started.
Uhhhhhhhh, I think that if you read my post, the second line (all by itself on a line on it's own), says "Before anyone starts to get rude, remember we don't know the situation entirely."

I'm certainly not aware that your name was mentioned anywhere in my post, So why would you even *think* that I was talking to you?

While I DO NOT condone Declawing of any sort, there are times when it does have to be done, again, when all else has failed. Declawing a cat to protect your furniture is an act of someone who is seriously uneducated about the declaw process AND MOST CERTAINLY an act of a person who doesn't, either want to understand cat behavior modification or just doesn't want to take the time to train the cat.
 

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Pushing the declaw debate aside, you were having behavioral problems for a while. How old is he? How long have you had him? How long since he was neutered? Has he always been aggresive and if not, how long has he been aggressive?

My brother had a cat that attacked everyone but he and his wife. I've seen that behavior before, and it can be frightening.

Fill us in on some details please!
 

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Originally posted by Imagyne
Uhhhhhhhh, I think that if you read my post, the second line (all by itself on a line on it's own), says "Before anyone starts to get rude, remember we don't know the situation entirely."

I'm certainly not aware that your name was mentioned anywhere in my post, So why would you even *think* that I was talking to you?

While I DO NOT condone Declawing of any sort, there are times when it does have to be done, again, when all else has failed. Declawing a cat to protect your furniture is an act of someone who is seriously uneducated about the declaw process AND MOST CERTAINLY an act of a person who doesn't, either want to understand cat behavior modification or just doesn't want to take the time to train the cat.
Sorry I guess I misunderstood. It's just because you posted right after me, and this especially

Either way what's done is done, and there is no reason at all to bash someone who obviously feels terrible about what happenned.
led me to believe you thought I was bashing this person. I just have strong opinions, and I do not believe that there is any case that it has to happen, I disagree with you there, but I will keep the rest of my opinions to myself.

The others have given good advice.
 

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There's no need for you to keep your opinions to yourself....

But would you at least agree that there *might* be a time when declawing (again, when all else has failed) is preferable to putting a cat down??????


That would be the ONLY time I would even consider it, and definately NOT a four paw declaw.


And I posted the last part you quoted to prevent a free for all, it's been known to happen to people before.
 

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I would have to say that when it comes down to either putting a cat down or having them declawed, that the owner should give them up to a no kill shelter or find a new home for them.
 
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