Cat refuses to eat dry food.

cat person · Sep 1, 2011

Originally Posted by gothicangel69

Getting the larger cans is a much better idea and should help cut the cost down a bit.

As for the mention of her sisters- I picked up a pregnant stray a while ago and she had four kittens. The other three have been re-homed, but Sera was badly poisoned when she was 5 weeks old and almost died. I couldn't rehome her because I didn't know if the toxins had done any lasting damage.

ps- She LOVES salt and vigegar chips (are these ok to give her as a treat very occasionally)?

I first want to say that it is GREAT that you choose to keep this cat. Next I want to commend you on your responsible behavior

!

I can say as a licensed veterinarian technician that one or two chips a day will not hurt the cat. As long as the cat has a "normal healthy" digestive and GI tract. If your present regain for giving them (potato chips) to your cat is not causing vomiting, diarrhea, or gas keep doing what your doing

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Originally Posted by Minka

I'd say no more than 1 or 2 chips a week. Salt and carbs really aren't good for cats though..

Yes your correct but let the cat enjoy its life a little maybe

? Plus if the cat is "normal and healthy" a little bit of inappropriate food is just fine as a treat.

yosemite · Sep 1, 2011

As long as your kittie is eating the kibble mixed with wet food in a fairly short time interval, I doubt it will do any harm.

I've been around here for a long time and often a simple food question gets all tangled up in how bad this food is or that food is when honestly, our cats will survive just fine. Yes, we should feed the best quality food, but some of us cannot afford the prices so we just need to read labels and feed our cats the best we can. It's still better for a cat to be in a loving home with "decent" food than in a shelter living in a cage with whatever food has been donated to the shelter or being euthanized.

Some posters over the years have quoted Dr. Lisa Pierson. Well, she is just one veterinarian who has her own ideas just as we all do. She is not a food God and has her own agenda just as others do. It's best to just use a bit of common sense and do the best you can for your cat. As long as you are not abusing your cat and feeding the best you can afford, keeping their litter clean, giving them exercise and lots of love, and getting them veterinarian treatment when and if required, you are doing fine.

cat person · Sep 1, 2011

Originally Posted by Yosemite

As long as your kittie is eating the kibble mixed with wet food in a fairly short time interval, I doubt it will do any harm.

I've been around here for a long time and often a simple food question gets all tangled up in how bad this food is or that food is when honestly, our cats will survive just fine. Yes, we should feed the best quality food, but some of us cannot afford the prices so we just need to read labels and feed our cats the best we can. It's still better for a cat to be in a loving home with "decent" food than in a shelter living in a cage with whatever food has been donated to the shelter or being euthanized.

Some posters over the years have quoted Dr. Lisa Pierson. Well, she is just one veterinarian who has her own ideas just as we all do. She is not a food God and has her own agenda just as others do. It's best to just use a bit of common sense and do the best you can for your cat. As long as you are not abusing your cat and feeding the best you can afford, keeping their litter clean, giving them exercise and lots of love, and getting them veterinarian treatment when and if required, you are doing fine.

Very very good work

! I know your the moderator but I just have to say I agree with you one hundred percent

. Hope you do not mind back up from us "little people"

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ducman69 · Sep 1, 2011

Originally Posted by Auntie Crazy

Bacteria are present on virtually all dry pet foods; some, like Salmonella, produce their own toxins and can make pets very ill.

And yet "certain individuals" will in the same breath assure you that regular consumption of salmonella bacteria, which the FDA says is present in about 5-20% of raw poultry at any given time and primary reason the American, Canadian, and British Veterinarian Medial Association advises against a raw-diet, is perfectly healthy. So its fine when its absolutely expected to be in raw, but dangerous when there is an off chance it could make it to consumers in dry and not be recalled as we've seen in the past for salmonella contamination.

And they wonder why its cautioned to double-check the "facts" presented by kibble-crusaders to ensure they aren't half-truth scare tactics.

auntie crazy · Sep 1, 2011

Originally Posted by Ducman69

And yet "certain individuals" will in the same breath assure you that regular consumption of salmonella bacteria, which the FDA says is present in about 5-20% of raw poultry at any given time and primary reason the American, Canadian, and British Veterinarian Medial Association advises against a raw-diet, is perfectly healthy. So its fine when its absolutely expected to be in raw, but dangerous when there is an off chance it could make it to consumers in dry and not be recalled as we've seen in the past for salmonella contamination.

And they wonder why its cautioned to double-check the "facts" presented by kibble-crusaders to ensure they aren't half-truth scare tactics.

LOL!!!!!!!!

Cats ARE naturally resistant to Salmonella but who in their right mind deliberately encourages bacterial growth and then feeds it to their cat?!

How many might do so if they're unaware the bacteria are present?

Although calling people names is generally considered rude (and we've had this discussion before) I think it's hysterical you keep calling me a kibble crusader. My dear Ducman, I'm all about education and if I'm on any crusade at all, it's to give people as much info in as much depth as I can. You can mock me and follow me around and harass me to your heart's content... it won't keep me from answering cat owners' questions and offering as much help as I possibly can. I've seen with my own eyes the change in vitality when a cat's diet is improved and I've heard with my own ears the tears shed by owners who've called to thank me after their cat's IBD, UTI, diarrhea and/or vomiting completely disappeared.

Nothing you say or do can stack up against what I've seen and learned.

There are veterinarians all across American who've witnessed the same improvements, and more are looking beyond the PFI marketing seminars and ignoring the lucrative product selling kickbacks to see the truth every day. IBD, urinary tract issues, diabetes, obesity, pancreatitis, kidney disease - 70-80 years ago (before kibble), they didn't exist; today, they're all at near epidemic proportions. This isn't normal! And it's entirely preventable.

AC

jcat · Sep 1, 2011

sweetpea24 · Sep 1, 2011

Originally Posted by Yosemite

As long as your kittie is eating the kibble mixed with wet food in a fairly short time interval, I doubt it will do any harm.

I've been around here for a long time and often a simple food question gets all tangled up in how bad this food is or that food is when honestly, our cats will survive just fine. Yes, we should feed the best quality food, but some of us cannot afford the prices so we just need to read labels and feed our cats the best we can. It's still better for a cat to be in a loving home with "decent" food than in a shelter living in a cage with whatever food has been donated to the shelter or being euthanized.

Some posters over the years have quoted Dr. Lisa Pierson. Well, she is just one veterinarian who has her own ideas just as we all do. She is not a food God and has her own agenda just as others do. It's best to just use a bit of common sense and do the best you can for your cat. As long as you are not abusing your cat and feeding the best you can afford, keeping their litter clean, giving them exercise and lots of love, and getting them veterinarian treatment when and if required, you are doing fine.

And some have expressed negative opinions about Dr. Pierson....not sure what the point of your statement is. people express support for Barracks Obama as well as opposition. There will always be pro and anti sides. Yes she is only one veterinarian but Martin Luther King was only one man and he changed a whole lot? I know he and Obama have nothing to do with pet food but it doesn't mean Dr. Pierson's opinion means nothing. Having said that, Info understand why people oppose her views. The only way to really make good decision is to evaluate both sides. I am not a Pierson 'crusader' but I do believe that cats should eat canned or raw like Dr. Pierson does. However, I also realize that people have their own opinions, comfort level, finances, etc.

jcat · Sep 1, 2011

The topic of this thread is "Cat refuses to eat dry food". Please return to the topic, as otherwise posts will be edited/deleted and the thread closed.

minka · Sep 1, 2011

Originally Posted by Cat Person

I can say as a licensed veterinarian technician that one or two chips a day will not hurt the cat. As long as the cat has a "normal healthy" digestive and GI tract. If your present regain for giving them (potato chips) to your cat is not causing vomiting, diarrhea, or gas keep doing what your doing

.

Yes your correct but let the cat enjoy its life a little maybe

?

(Note to admin: I am re-responding to a question the OP asked: Is it okay to feed salt and vinegar chips?)

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These are the kind of things said by people who can't stop overfeeding their pets though.
"S/he looks at me like she's so sad."
"What's the use of being healthy if you aren't happy?"
"I love her/him so I'm going to give her a great life by giving her everything she wants!"

These are the kinds of things my grandma and numerous other people with fats pets say. They think that if their animal doesn't get food whenever they want, if the pet doesn't get their treats of ice cream and cookies, that their pet will be sad their whole life and that they will feel unloved. But that is simply not true. Cats live in the 'now', they won't be sad forever if you don't give them a treat. They won't be suffering if you don't fill their bowl to the brim.
Sure the chips will make her happy this second, but it won't make her happy in the long run. Just like for every plate of deep fried onion rings and hotdogs you eat, you increase the chance of clogged arteries and cancer, for every non-carnivorous treat you give your cat, their risks of disease go up.
Point is, sure it is fine to give her a couple of treats a week, but keep in mind that you are giving her unhealthy food and it needs to be cut to a minimum to maximize healthy years.

(P.s. I am in no way calling anyone's pets fat, I'm just saying that this type of thinking is what leads pets to becoming fat. The thought that love = food.)

yosemite · Sep 2, 2011

Originally Posted by Minka

(Note to admin: I am re-responding to a question the OP asked: Is it okay to feed salt and vinegar chips?)

[bold added by me]
These are the kind of things said by people who can't stop overfeeding their pets though.
"S/he looks at me like she's so sad."
"What's the use of being healthy if you aren't happy?"
"I love her/him so I'm going to give her a great life by giving her everything she wants!"

These are the kinds of things my grandma and numerous other people with fats pets say. They think that if their animal doesn't get food whenever they want, if the pet doesn't get their treats of ice cream and cookies, that their pet will be sad their whole life and that they will feel unloved. But that is simply not true. Cats live in the 'now', they won't be sad forever if you don't give them a treat. They won't be suffering if you don't fill their bowl to the brim.
Sure the chips will make her happy this second, but it won't make her happy in the long run. Just like for every plate of deep fried onion rings and hotdogs you eat, you increase the chance of clogged arteries and cancer, for every non-carnivorous treat you give your cat, their risks of disease go up.
Point is, sure it is fine to give her a couple of treats a week, but keep in mind that you are giving her unhealthy food and it needs to be cut to a minimum to maximize healthy years.

(P.s. I am in no way calling anyone's pets fat, I'm just saying that this type of thinking is what leads pets to becoming fat. The thought that love = food.)

I'm going to quickly respond to this post and then ask that we all get back on track re the OP's question.

Little Mika loves potato chips and cheesies. She gets a couple of these treats about once a week. Mika is a tiny, slim little girl who has certainly got no weight issues. Bijou, on the other hand, is her full brother and he is big and he does not get those treats. My hubby did feed him human food when we were together. Since we parted, I've taken all dry food away from him and he has successfully lost almost 4 pounds.

Some people will gain weight eating potato chips and such things, but others won't so we can't paint everything and everyone with the big wide paint brush. What works for one doesn't work for another so let's keep that in mind when handing out information and "facts".

just mike · Sep 3, 2011

Originally Posted by Ducman69

Completely false information, and wetting dry food is not only commonplace for kittens, but is often recommended right on the back of the bag.

Once wetted, dry food will grow bacteria at the same rate as wet food.

Yeahbut I still don't like leaving damp wet food down all day long. I have no problem with it in a scheduled feeding setting but a free feeding setting is where I'd get a little concerned. Just me

yosemite · Sep 6, 2011

Originally Posted by NutroMike

Yeahbut I still don't like leaving damp wet food down all day long. I have no problem with it in a scheduled feeding setting but a free feeding setting is where I'd get a little concerned. Just me

If the cat isn't eating it and it is left all day I would also be worried. Bijou doesn't eat his wet food all at one time but he does eat it within a half hour so I don't worry.

just mike · Sep 6, 2011

Originally Posted by Ducman69

Completely false information, and wetting dry food is not only commonplace for kittens, but is often recommended right on the back of the bag.

Once wetted, dry food will grow bacteria at the same rate as wet food.

Which is why I don't moisten my cat's kibble or leave wet food out all day. I don't have that problem in my household

My 4 eat every smidge of their wet food within about 30 minutes of putting it down. I do wet 2x daily and freed feed the dry. I think my cats like just about anything but prefer their wet. And Ramsey will beg for anything pork

sylvia shalabey · Oct 13, 2016

If ur cat doesn't want to eat dry food that's a normal thing because it's started to hurt it kidney so what u really need to do is either give her milk but not cold warm and try the wet food if she didn't respond to it then my best advices to give me macrelle fish it's a can tha u can but from ur store just like the tuna but called macrelle fish this one doesn't have oil in it so that good then u put a little of that fish on bread and add little water so it gets soft and mix all together
U will see ur cat will love it and please stop the dry food it's very unhealthy for cats.

Norachan · Oct 13, 2016

Sylvia shalabey said:
If ur cat doesn't want to eat dry food that's a normal thing because it's started to hurt it kidney so what u really need to do is either give her milk but not cold warm and try the wet food if she didn't respond to it then my best advices to give me macrelle fish it's a can tha u can but from ur store just like the tuna but called macrelle fish this one doesn't have oil in it so that good then u put a little of that fish on bread and add little water so it gets soft and mix all together
U will see ur cat will love it and please stop the dry food it's very unhealthy for cats.

This is a very old thread @Sylvia shalabey If you'd like to discuss the best food to feed to your cat why not start your own thread?

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