How much and how often a day.

So as I posted in another thread I have given up trying to get cynder to eat any wet. This morning i put a bit of it on my fingers and he did eat some, probably a good teaspoon,but for the most part is eating dry. my question is because he is eating dry mainly what is the normal urine output of this little guy (14 weeks) basically he pees 2x a day and they are a small to medium sized clump in the litter is this normal,or do I try to get more water into him... I know I know just relax and enjoy my kitten ,but I only want the best for him and want to be aware of what is normal as I heard utis can kill a male kitten in 24 hrs... I just want to be on guard and know what to look for...

I don't think you can really gauge hydration well based on urine clump size/weight/number very well.

The "scruff pinch" test is the only obvious one I know of, but it usually only shows if the kitty is very dehydrated, which is unlikely if you have clean water always available.

My sister occasionally moistens the dry food for her two big doggies, so that could always be an option. So they didn't even want a can of friskies thrown in there just for the moisture or something a day huh?

You can relax on the UTIs a bit IMO, as most UTIs are for unknown causes, and in fact they can go away on their own as I think is often the case for indoor/outdoor cats where the owner may not have even noticed as symptoms came and went. UTIs typically involve the cat urinating smaller amounts more frequently, and grooming their genitals more often. If it gets worse the cat will often start urinating outside the litterbox, and you may find blood in the urine. It is only when you have a complete and total blockage, not very common, that you need to see the e-vet. You would notice this as a complete and total lack of urine output.

I have also never heard of a cat dying from not peeing within 24hrs, which is not THAT uncommon since rehomed cats sometimes hold their bowels that long. I believe 48hrs is typically where blockages become fatal.

Our youngest cat we had as a kitten is now... oh gosh. I just realized she's seven.

I'm pretty sure that's OK and normal.

What you need to watch for (and probably not for some time, and hopefully it never happens) is "litterbox hopping," or going in and out of the litter box (NOT playing LOL) and trying to pee like all the time. Or running around like crazy, just trying to squat and pee everywhere.

Have you ever had a UTI? If so, the cat feels the same thing. Like they have to pee all of the time. Bladder may be empty and irritated, or it could be full and blocked or partially blocked. Either way, you'll see the signs in time to get to the vet.

thanks guys for making me feel better. i have been reading all this stuff on the internet and on here and it scares the H*LL outta me that he will get one and nope won't even touch any canned food even friskies, mind you i only tried the chuncky pouch kind and all he did was lick the gravy off and walk away..

I will say... if you want him to eat wet food, you can do it. Our cats hated everything but the gravy. Turns out it's finding the right texture - and you can alter the texture of whatever food you want to feed with a blender and water. How much to blend it down, or how much to water down a pate... it's just something you have to experiment with.

Our kitties don't like any food with chunks, period. If a food has chunks and gravy, it has to go into a blender. And then I have to add some water. Some of our kitties like it like soup. Others like it like thick stew. Others like it like mashed potatoes.

Trying just one kind of TYPE is really no indicator of whether he'll eat wet or not.

I point this out because I left it at that too. Over the years I "tried" to incorporate more wet food. After three of the boys repeatedly blocked, I got serious about it.

I'm trying but i have tried every texture out there, he hates pate,he hates it with water mixed to make it soupy,or to make it a thinner consistency, he hates chunks,tried mashing it down to even samller pieces,he hates that too. tried crunching up some kibble to sprinkle over top. I have tried everything. He was eating all wet until 3 weeks ago when hubby didn't get home in time and the dry that had always been there he ate,and he has never looked back to the wet,no matter what I try.... I wish he was an easy cat who ate anything but he is not.

Oh sorry, I thought you'd only tried the chunks in gravy! Sorry!

IMHO, if you are Truly more stubborn than the cat, then you Can get him to eat wet. Cats seem to be very good at persuading their owners however, into panicking when they don't eat, and immediately putting down the dry. And so then a pattern forms, where the cat is more stubborn (because being so has gotten him his way before) and the owner more and more defeated. I've seen other people around here who've said they tried everything, but when the confidence within themselves was stirred, they got down to business, put down the wet, and walked away. And seemingly like a miracle, their once dry addicted cat will eat wet.
If you want to let it go for now and enjoy time with your kitten, I understand, but if you want to give it another go, we're always here to help.

I will say one thing pertaining to UtIs though. If I remember correctly your kitten is pretty young, and unless he is predispositioned to urinary issues, being on a dry only diet will not make him get a UTI immediately. It is dehydration over a long period of time that can lead to the formation of crystals and infections.

I'd suggest to feed whatever he was fed from birth. If from shelter, find out what wet they fed.

I purchased my kitties, and feed the same food as the breeder and do not have problems with them refusing wet food, or having to mash it down, etc.

I feed Wellness turkey in 5.5oz cans [some gravy in them] and Royal Canin 33 special dry.

Yeah, that is one problem with the internet that reading on the forums you'd think everyone had sick cats constantly at the vet and if you don't do XYZ in that specific order all heck will break loose! Reality is these guys are a lot tougher than that, and too much worry just makes it hard to relax and enjoy your furballs.

BTW, the other option is to just slowly transition to a less delicious dry. Then he knows he doesn't have something more yummy to hold out for!

Its not a big deal if they don't inhale their dry after all, as it can be left out until its eaten even if its just a nibble or two at a time. Blue Wilderness Duck Dry has great ingredients (especially like the cold formed process), but isn't all that yummy apparently and my munchkins always pick wet over it when available:

maybe i will try switching to a less tastier kibble and see what happens. he was a barn cat so he was only eating meow mix kitten before the wet,and he went for the wet immediatley so I am PRAYING that this will work.

Less tasty kibble tends to be the more expensive kind without any flavoring aded, but if he went for wet when he was on meow mix, I say switch back, stop giving him wet for a while so then he'll want it, and then when you give him the wet and he starts eating it like he was, Immediately get rid of the dry.