My rescued brownie

I'm thinking that there must be more than one father.

One kitten is black, no other colours, Brownie you have seen, then there is grey with white large spot at chest, he has black stripes and black rear section of back.

Then there must be one more, I have heard cat walking when I have seen two, but I have not seen that one, I think that I must do the taming until I can get them captured, one by one with trap is difficult, they are too light for trap to set off. Two are observing me and coming a bit closer but they are bit unsure still, I told the farmer that it might take bit time until I can catch them all. Grey is probably best for barn cat as I can see him hiding really well and he seeks position where he can stalk large area without being spotted.

Black one is perhaps coming to be good pet as he is most curious of two I have seen, Brownie is of course ready made pet, would not be good barn cat as he would be constantly crying for indoors. Also Brownie is a poor hunter, he was starving when I found him bit over week ago.

Kittens have made my warehouse to be their new home or at least they seem to be there rather often.

Stefan, here drowning is illegal method of ending life of cat, it is considered inhumane as it is not instant kill. Only two ways exists, registered hunter shooting into brain or vet.

Originally Posted by JTbo

Stefan, here drowning is illegal method of ending life of cat, it is considered inhumane as it is not instant kill. Only two ways exists, registered hunter shooting into brain or vet.

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Yes, of course, we both knows it.

But not all other understands. Not to mention the old ways....


I have a striking illustration. One of my coworkers, coming from Poland, lives in the woods 25 kilometers from the town, together with her husband fostered a bunch of ferales they found near their place. Now the ex-ferales live happy lives of outside cats, but coming inside to be petted, and eat. Sometimes warming in the winter too. Highly lowed and loving their humans. Interesting twist is, it was the husband who began. She was strongly against. "Choose yourself, me or these bloody cats!". But now it is difficult to find a stronger cat friend. She surpasses me!
OK. Once she told me about her feelings as a cat rescuer: "what could I do with such poor creatures? You would expect me to drown them??" Of course she didnt. But the self though about it! It was perhaps more of a matter of speaking, but she did said these words.
Modern woman with a REALLY warm heart, and higher education and all. What she knew about cats, was, if you decide to end the live - not vet, not even asking some neighbour who is a hunter (out there must be several) - but the old, classical way... yiikes.

Im glad things do goes forward...

So the farmer that wants Brownie and the kittens is the same one responsible for the breeding? And ... disposal? And the rescue can return kittens to him?

Will the rescue make sure the kittens are spayed and neutered before they go back to him? At least that way he won't feel the need to ... dispose of them.

I'm not sure how to feel about this.

Just sending that this works out for all the kitties.

I can have brownie, and all the others except for one that I can choose, this was last what we did agree on and I'm working very hard to get all of them captured, but is not very easy task.

During the day I have to go work to 140km away, then back at evening and feeding kittens at warehouse, own cats and trying to trap kittens and still try to build trust to them, trap is not in warehouse, that is so they would not so easily connect me to trap, but I don't know how things will end, it might take bit longer than I wish.

Black one is perhaps first one to go into trap, grey is bit more reserved and that one other I have not seen, only heard. I did hear again one at other end of warehouse while two was at other end, hopefully vibes will work and trap will work perfectly tonight, also can't keep trap out all night, temperatures are going near sub zero temps at night time here. Car has warm motor and I did put trap at front of car, put also some covering so it should be bit warmer than surroundings for little time now.

I don't know how much patience farmer has, if capturing takes too long, I'm afraid he takes Brownie and leaves me with others, it is not good way because nature of Brownie, he is not a hunter and farmer might dispose useless hunter.

Black one decided it is ok to come by and sniff my finger, smell did scare him a bit, even my finger was covered in fish, grey one also came to reach of my hand, so it is only day or two I think as these are not feral kittens, just strays, they probably will come around when they find out there is regular food and giant is actually something similar they might have nice memories of, maybe it will come alright, I do hope so. Again I could hear 3rd one, but impossible to see, even these two are hideous, takes bit time until they come to look at me from distance so that I can see them.

I also have the trap set and armed, so might get one really soon, if I'm lucky two of them will go into trap at once.

So Brownie SHOULD be able to come home? Such a sweet natured and beautiful kitty!

Lots of vibes for trapping success, and quickly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by LDG

So Brownie SHOULD be able to come home?

Such a sweet natured and beautiful kitty!

Lots of vibes for trapping success, and quickly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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He should, I must phone tomorrow and I hope to catch grey one today, yesterday there was no success.

Black one sniffed from my finger yesterday, today he was not quite so brave, but still came to arm reach, they are curious, but scared. Again I did hear third one, but never saw that, I saw how brown and grey did look to third one, but never saw it, unless there is two grey ones.

I don't know how much such kittens really should eat, but over 100 grams of dry food and 800 grams of fish disappears every day, nights are bit cold of course, but it is quite a lot, imo, even for three.

There might be even more of them, or maybe they have adult feral with them, also some other feral might visit there.

I was at business trip two weeks after discovering brownie, poor brothers and sisters of brownie had been that time alone, did not see them when I filled food between the weeks, but food had disappeared, last week as I returned I did notice someone had eaten partly paper plate I had put some food, I feel bad that I did not put more food for there, but then again I had no idea that there were several in need, I did doubled the usual amount, but it had not been enough.

Currently I'm bringing them food at the morning and at the evening, during evening they come to eat a bit when I'm around, but at the morning they hide a bit. Quite difference from brownie, but then again he was taken inside in a cage and fed there, also he saw me petting Miuku.

I really don't know how to translate how much food, because I really don't remember how much food we were going through last winter. In summer, the feral kitties eat a MUCH reduced amount of food, and I'm pretty sure it's because there are so many field mice.

More for kitties to go in the trap!!!!!

Are you putting food out on a schedule instead of leaving food out for them to eat all day? Maybe skip one meal so they're hungrier for the next?

Just catching up here this morning... WOW So Brownie is coming home to you and your other three! You have a wonderful, big caring heart . and Brownie is a lucky kitty for sure.

For trapping the others, I would also agree with Laurie, and not leave food out all day. Especially during trapping. I know it is hard, but it must be done and when they are REALLY hungry, into the trap they will go. . You are making such a fantastic effort here in helping these kitties. Much luck with the trappings and for Brownie's homecoming

Originally Posted by Feralvr

Just catching up here this morning... WOW So Brownie is coming home to you

and your other three! You have a wonderful, big caring heart

. and Brownie is a lucky kitty for sure.

For trapping the others, I would also agree with Laurie, and not leave food out all day. Especially during trapping. I know it is hard, but it must be done and when they are REALLY hungry, into the trap they will go.

. You are making such a fantastic effort here in helping these kitties. Much luck with the trappings and for Brownie's homecoming

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I wish that things would have gone that way, but yesterday farmer had decided to get brownie from shelter, he prefers to have that one instead now and there is not much to do about it, but they do love cats, they have many of them so it might be okay that he is with them as they are making him to be outdoor cat he has chance to come back if he likes to.

So it is now with black and grey one that are here, actually I don't know exact location of black one, he decided to come in from cat door that will only let in, not out, but he got bit spooked and I have not seen him after that, but there really is no chances that he would of escaped, he is just so small that can find good hiding places, so I set traps indoors now.

Grey one I trapped from outside last evening, he is now at bathroom and I can pet him, but he is not really asking being pet, however does not resist it either, he is so scared that he is moving very slowly and trying to be invisible.

Mother of kitten is not dead, disposing was not successful then, I guess as farmer did ask if I have seen her, so I have to do trapping outdoors too, mother might be injured and around warehouse somewhere, I must try and find her.

So there is not much to add to this thread as brownie is not coming back after all.

I find it bit odd that farmer don't know when kittens were born, never had seen them, but thinks kittens are born at spring and also that his cat has made them, suspicious, imo. However there is again nothing else to do or say about it.

Let's just hope Brownie finds his way back to you.

Good luck trapping the black kitty and I REALLY hope mother is not injured!!!!!

So what happens? Grey kitty and black kitty will also go to the farmer?

Originally Posted by LDG

Let's just hope Brownie finds his way back to you.

Good luck trapping the black kitty and I REALLY hope mother is not injured!!!!!

So what happens? Grey kitty and black kitty will also go to the farmer?

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Grey and black are both staying with me, there might be third one too, but until black one is caught I can't be sure about that. I did see black one just moment ago as I went to downstairs, he did run to his hideout, but good sign is that he is looking around a bit, probably coming night is when he is caught as he should be really hungry by now.

This "farmer" guy kinda gives me the creeps . But, you are right, not much you can do about that. . You are doing such a FANTASTIC thing for all of these cats. I think you are just great . I also hope Brownie finds his way back to you .

Much luck with trapping that black kitty and yes, good sign he is coming around tonight. Aw grey kitty in your bathroom is quite frightened and that is just great he allows some pets. Too scared not too. Probably will be easily tamed too. Hope momma cat is alright too