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can you mix dry and wet food together?

post #1 of 30
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I am having problems with my 12 week old eating wet food!! I have tried everything so this morning i put his wet food out and once again he turned his nose up at it,so i put 4 bowls of diffrent brands out to see which ones he would eat and one i mixed a bit of wet with alot of dry and that was what he ate most of.. so can i mix wet and dry together so he will eat? he hsan't been eating alot the past 4 days and this morning he ate quite a bit of it.....
post #2 of 30
Absolutely! My cats have always had a bit of dry mixed in with the wet food. Especially when they were kittens. It is fine to add some dry to get them to start eating the wet. I have to do this with Pipsqueak now to get him to eat wet food. My cats get one of their wet meals mixed with dry and a little bit of water. I have to add a little dry to Pipsqueak's wet food to get him to eat the wet.
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Originally Posted by cyndersmom View Post
I am having problems with my 12 week old eating wet food!! I have tried everything so this morning i put his wet food out and once again he turned his nose up at it,so i put 4 bowls of diffrent brands out to see which ones he would eat and one i mixed a bit of wet with alot of dry and that was what he ate most of.. so can i mix wet and dry together so he will eat? he hsan't been eating alot the past 4 days and this morning he ate quite a bit of it.....
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Absolutely! My cats have always had a bit of dry mixed in with the wet food. Especially when they were kittens. It is fine to add some dry to get them to start eating the wet. I have to do this with Pipsqueak now to get him to eat wet food. My cats get one of their wet meals mixed with dry and a little bit of water. I have to add a little dry to Pipsqueak's wet food to get him to eat the wet.
I feed all three of my pure domestics a mix (50% wet and 50% dry) once to twice a day depending on the cat. Plus they are given a separate bowel of dry food as well. My F3 Savannah is on a strictly dry food diet as he is too food aggressive to receive wet food.
post #4 of 30
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THANKYOU!!!! He just doesn't seem to like any texture of any wet food. I have tried pate,chunks,slices you name it all he will do is lick the gravy off and walk away, I'm just hoping he will stick to this and not turn his nose up a this as well.. Another question is i put some wet usually out before i go to work,can i leave the mixed out as well,as i heard that it has alot of bacteria in it and will cause problems. if i put just canned down he will eventually eat some of it cuz he is hungry and doen't get fed for 6 hrs while we are both at work... God why did i have to get the picky eater......
post #5 of 30
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Originally Posted by cyndersmom View Post
THANKYOU!!!! He just doesn't seem to like any texture of any wet food. I have tried pate,chunks,slices you name it all he will do is lick the gravy off and walk away, I'm just hoping he will stick to this and not turn his nose up a this as well.. Another question is i put some wet usually out before i go to work,can i leave the mixed out as well,as i heard that it has alot of bacteria in it and will cause problems. if i put just canned down he will eventually eat some of it cuz he is hungry and doen't get fed for 6 hrs while we are both at work... God why did i have to get the picky eater......
I just have to say some cats are very picky eaters. Panda my DLH was as picky as your kitten from when I first acquired her over a year ago. So I am not sure why some cats are that way but they sure are .

Now onto your question about bacteria growth. I will say first of all I am not a veterinarian. If you are very concerned about that issue speak to a licensed veterinarian you trust.

But as a certified veterinarian technician and working with cats for over 15 years I have never seen the bacterial issue that many people speak about.

Now with my present pure domestics (three) and my F3 Savannah the pure domestics know to bolt down there wet/dry food mix . So there is no chance for bacteria to grow .
post #6 of 30
I have also heard that wet+ dry is not good to leave out but I don't know the validity of that statement. Wet will be fine to leave out while you are gone, but if suddenly he has stopped eating, i would take him to the vet. Wasn't he a stray at one point?
post #7 of 30
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i guess a stray e was 6 weeks old when we got him off a farm. he started out eating ff wet ,the transitioned him to bb wilderness canned,but bout 2 weeks ago i had to go for a dinner and hubby was supossed to be home by 3 and got stuck at work till bout 8:30 i had always had the dry out but he never ate it till that night,since then he just doesn't want to eat anything the dry the wet,will lick off tuna juice then walk away... i just don't know what has caused this but if he ate the kibble and liked it how come he won't touch anything. i think i have to take him to the vet by the weekend. he did eat a bit of boiled chicken tonight cuz he needs to eat something,but thats it..
post #8 of 30
I've heard this mentioned many times as well, right along with the advice not to feed kibble and raw together or even within a few hours of each other. My response to this is two-pronged. First and foremost - don't feed kibble!!!! (See Feline-Nutrition.org or CatInfo.org for detailed info.)

Okay, now that that's out of the way... *grin*

Cats evolved to handle some pretty crazy bacterial loads. Feral cats often bury their breakfast leftovers and dig them up that evening for dinner, and stray cats will eat out of dumpsters without digestive upsets. With the kinds of things kibble is coated with to entice cats to eat it, mixing it with anything that makes it moist will definitely cause fast, active bacterial growth, but knowing what cats can handle, I'm not convinced that bacteria is flat-out dangerous.

I don't recommend the practice because kibble is unhealthy for cats, but I think if you're doing it short-term to transition the cat to something else, it's not the end of the world.

Of course, the longer you leave the mix sitting out, the higher those bacterial levels will get. Young cats, old cats or any cat with a compromised immune system is likely going to be affected at some point, and if you leave it long enough, even healthy cats could be.

That's kind of an in-between answer, but hopefully, it helps clarify things at least a bit for you. Good luck getting your furbaby to eat canned!

Hmmm, have you tried any of the other tricks to enticing a cat to eat something? A bit of tuna juice dribbled over the food, or a sprinkling of catnip, freeze dried meat treats (Whole Life's chicken never fails on my kitties), Parmesan cheese, or even fish food flakes can work wonders in convincing a cat your offering is actually edible. Maybe one of those will work for you!

Best regards and good luck again.

AC
post #9 of 30
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Originally Posted by Auntie Crazy View Post
I've heard this mentioned many times as well, right along with the advice not to feed kibble and raw together or even within a few hours of each other. My response to this is two-pronged. First and foremost - don't feed kibble!!!! (See Feline-Nutrition.org or CatInfo.org for detailed info.)

Okay, now that that's out of the way... *grin* AC
I meant commercial wet canned food mixed with commercial dry food. Not raw meat or raw entrails mixed with commercial dry food.
post #10 of 30
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I meant commercial wet canned food mixed with commercial dry food. Not raw meat or raw entrails mixed with commercial dry food.
Yes, I know, Cat Person. And that's what I responded to.

AC
post #11 of 30
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Originally Posted by Cat Person View Post
I meant commercial wet canned food mixed with commercial dry food. Not raw meat or raw entrails mixed with commercial dry food.
Short answer from actual experience:
Many kittens are free fed kibble, while also given wet food, as these two were. The kibble is surely not digested before the wet food is eaten, and they do fine with normal stools and did not get sick.

Common sense answer:
Kibble does digest at different rates than wet from what I've read, but if they have the gut flora to digest either, its a non-issue, just as its not a big deal that mashed potatoes digest much faster than steak and you don't have to separate those meals for yourself.

Wet food mixed with dry food (or just dry food wetted) will go bad as quickly as wet food by itself, so its best consumed within an hour or two of being put out.
post #12 of 30
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Originally Posted by Auntie Crazy View Post
Yes, I know, Cat Person. And that's what I responded to.

AC
Okay it is the word raw or I swear I saw the word raw threw me . I can be mega ditzy.

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Originally Posted by Ducman69 View Post
Short answer from actual experience:
Many kittens are free fed kibble, while also given wet food, as these two were. The kibble is surely not digested before the wet food is eaten, and they do fine with normal stools and did not get sick.

Common sense answer:
Kibble does digest at different rates than wet from what I've read, but if they have the gut flora to digest either, its a non-issue, just as its not a big deal that mashed potatoes digest much faster than steak and you don't have to separate those meals for yourself.

Wet food mixed with dry food (or just dry food wetted) will go bad as quickly as wet food by itself, so its best consumed within an hour or two of being put out.
All I can say is my three pure domestics eat fifty percent canned food (wet) mixed with fifty percent dry food. This set up is given one to two times per day depending on the cat. Plus dry food in a separate dish is out at all times for the two indoor/outdoor cats. The other pure domestic that is completely indoors is given a dish of dry and the wet/dry mix in the evenings when she is alone in my bedroom. For heath reasons she is fed only one time a day.
post #13 of 30
I would think that as long as it isn't sitting out all day long and is eaten in a fairly decent time frame that it wouldn't be a problem. Bijou doesn't eat his wet food all at once when I put it down, he eats some and goes back later to finish it.
post #14 of 30
what you can do is leave some wet food and freeze some so that your cat can eat it later as it thaws.

when Little Guy was a kitten (well, 6 months old when I adopted him), I couldn't get him to eat wet food. So I would mix the dry and wet and feed it from my hand. That was the only way he'd eat. I think he probably was a dry food addict prior to me adopting him because he wouldn't eat the wet without the dry, much to my dismay.

I see no reason to not mix wet and dry although, like Auntie Crazy said, I would feed all wet if you can afford it. I don't believe that any canned is better than the best dry food...there are bad dry and wet foods. But I do believe that a good canned food is better than dry food. In general, a good canned food has lower carbs and is more digestible as well as it contains more moisture which cats need. While cats may be able to tolerate carbs, it puts more stress on their system and they don't derive any benefits. I'm not saynig no carbs, just low carbs.

I would, however, make sure that your cat's inappetance isn't a result of a medical issue. You don't want him not eating for more than 24 hours as it can lead to hepatic lipidosis. HL is expensive to treat...I've seen too many cats go through this...not trying to scare you but maybe see the vet if he doesn't start eating.

Glad you're trying to get him to eat wet though. Hope things go well!
post #15 of 30
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so he basically wants the dry and at this moment I just want him to eat so i have put bot wet and dry down, of course he goes after the dry. Any ways I notice that when i put the wet out before i go to work and then hubby comes home at 3 he has eaten most of the wet because that is his only food choice,when I go to work, I take the dry away. So heres my idea. i will put wet out 3 times a day,and his dry but when it comes time for me to go to work. i will only put wet out and then that forces him to eat some wet as that is his only food choice for 7 hrs. then when he is bout 6 months i will try to transiion him over to all wet.
post #16 of 30
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Originally Posted by cyndersmom View Post
so he basically wants the dry and at this moment I just want him to eat so i have put bot wet and dry down, of course he goes after the dry. Any ways I notice that when i put the wet out before i go to work and then hubby comes home at 3 he has eaten most of the wet because that is his only food choice,when I go to work, I take the dry away. So heres my idea. i will put wet out 3 times a day,and his dry but when it comes time for me to go to work. i will only put wet out and then that forces him to eat some wet as that is his only food choice for 7 hrs. then when he is bout 6 months i will try to transiion him over to all wet.
In my humble opinion the above idea sounds just fine .
post #17 of 30
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thanks cat person. i do really want him on all wet,but cats like what they like,so i'll just just start saving for the big vet bill that will come later when he gets a uti
post #18 of 30
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Originally Posted by cyndersmom View Post
thanks cat person. i do really want him on all wet,but cats like what they like,so i'll just just start saving for the big vet bill that will come later when he gets a uti
Okay let me start off and say I am a vet tech and have had/fostered many male cats for fifteen years. None of my cats had a UTI. Some of that is luck I am sure. But I also think some cats are prone to UTI as well. So I do not think it is always diet related.

Also it has been shown some grain helps prevent a UTI. I feed my F3 Savannah Evo dry and Taste Of The Wild dry mixed together. But to prevent a UTI he is given twenty pieces (yes I count them ) of either Nutro Max diet dry food or Purina dry to ensure he gets some grains in his diet.
post #19 of 30
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Originally Posted by cyndersmom View Post
thanks cat person. i do really want him on all wet,but cats like what they like,so i'll just just start saving for the big vet bill that will come later when he gets a uti
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Originally Posted by Cat Person View Post
Okay let me start off and say I am a vet tech and have had/fostered many male cats for fifteen years. None of my cats had a UTI. Some of that is luck I am sure. But I also think some cats are prone to UTI as well. So I do not think it is always diet related.

Also it has been shown some grain helps prevent a UTI. I feed my F3 Savannah Evo dry and Taste Of The Wild dry mixed together. But to prevent a UTI he is given twenty pieces (yes I count them ) of either Nutro Max diet dry food or Purina dry to ensure he gets some grains in his diet.
When you ladies have a chance, I'd recommend you take a look at the Nutrition and Health sections of the Feline Nutrition Education Society's website (feline-nutrition.org). It'll give you a great grounding in feline nutritional needs and help you understand what it is about certain foods that makes them "healthier" than others. Which, of course, will make choosing foods that much easier.

Best regards!

AC
post #20 of 30
Cyndersmom, your idea is fine. I agree that utis aren't always diet related, hiwever, wet food does provide the moisture a cat needs. I am glad you have found a solution.
post #21 of 30
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Originally Posted by SweetPea24 View Post
Cyndersmom, your idea is fine. I agree that utis aren't always diet related, hiwever, wet food does provide the moisture a cat needs. I am glad you have found a solution.
LOL, this thread has bounced all over the place. I agree with most of the thread and I would certainly not leave wet, or a wet dry mixed together out all day. I don't have any science to back me up on this ie; bacteria etc. but it just does not seem right to me, to leave wet out all day much less wet and dry mixed.

There is nothing wrong with an all kibble diet if the cat drinks enough water. And yes Sweet, wet provides moisture the cat needs. Cats are just not wired to go to the water bowl for a big slurp like the dog is so in many cases you have to make sure the meezer is getting moisture from it's wet diet
post #22 of 30

I mix it everyday since my cat was a kitten. then I switched to purina indoor to control hairballs. she loves it. the pate she doesnt like so i spoil her and she eats it all. but she acts like she wants more. i only feed her twice a day.  Hope this helps.

 

kathy

post #23 of 30

try different wet food. i personally like Meow Mix the tuna and shrimp and salman, crab and shrimp. yep shes spoiled.

post #24 of 30
Meow Mix typically has a bad rep. Too fish heavy and a member on here (can't remember for the life of me who it was though) found cooked bones in one of their kitties' cans! Not safe IMO. Search Meow Mix on here and you'll get a whole bunch more information. biggrin.gif
post #25 of 30
I mix fancy feast elegant medleys with blue buffalo dry food and my cat loves it. she will vomit up just dry food, or eat just canned food so fast that she vomits that up. so yeah I would recommend mixing foods!
post #26 of 30

Prior to, going to whole live prey, twice daily, for my cats, I always fed, once or twice a day, a mix of wet and dry food. I am still, doing that, for, my terminally ill DLH Panda. Plus, whole live prey. I also leave out Evo dry, Chicken and Turkey recipe.
 

post #27 of 30
I'll just say what I have experienced. Some cats can do well on kibble. Period.
If your cat likes kibble, give it kibble. I feed my boy only 3 oz of wet per day as well as kibble and he is doing very well. I HAVE to give him some wet or he will become constipated.
post #28 of 30
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I'll just say what I have experienced. Some cats can do well on kibble. Period.
If your cat likes kibble, give it kibble. I feed my boy only 3 oz of wet per day as well as kibble and he is doing very well. I HAVE to give him some wet or he will become constipated.

I disagree..if kitties CAN be fed wet or raw, they should be! Cats can do well on kibble, but that doesn't mean they will always do well on it. It's like saying a kid is doing well eating just candy. He may be doing fine now, but eventually he's going to have some impact from it! If older kitties are rejecting wet though, I agree that kibble is ok, because the most important thing is that they have appetite and are eating. But if the kitty is young, happy and healthy there is no reason why the kitty should be on kibble. agree.gif
post #29 of 30
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Originally Posted by kittylover23 View Post

I disagree..if kitties CAN be fed wet or raw, they should be! Cats can do well on kibble, but that doesn't mean they will always do well on it. It's like saying a kid is doing well eating just candy. He may be doing fine now, but eventually he's going to have some impact from it! If older kitties are rejecting wet though, I agree that kibble is ok, because the most important thing is that they have appetite and are eating. But if the kitty is young, happy and healthy there is no reason why the kitty should be on kibble. agree.gif
Yes but the question is- will they? Sometimes no amount of persuasion and dedication will get a cat to switch from kibble to raw/wet. I have been trying for 2.5 years (particularly the past 7 months) and its not working. Then again- I have a senior that was always (as far as I know, we've had him for 2.5 years) on kibble.
If they are relatively young, there should be no issue. I would always recommend wet over dry but if a cat will not eat wet then I will not make a person feel like crap for feeding kibble. There are many more important things in my life to ponder... and should be in most people's lives.
Oh and I find it offensive to compare feeding kibble to kids eating candy. I (for example) have tried my damnedest to feed my cat raw AND wet food... it hasn't worked. Now I am a negligent, uncaring, lazy cat owner? No. I am just as concerned and diligent as any of you on here and to imply anything else if HIGHLY offensive. Sometimes people try their absolute best and there is no success. Choose your words more carefully please.
OP- good luck trying to find a happy medium vibes.gif
post #30 of 30
While this is an important discussion, the OP started the thread in the summer of 2011 and hasn't been on TCS since March of this year.
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