Britain Burning

Ill tell you

HEALTH AND SAFETY

is why our police can do nothing!

The police can't do anything they can't go in and just hit them with there batons because they are stealing something, it was all over the news yesterday! And can you imagine what would happen to the police if they tried to stop one of them??? The police would be mobbed by them

*I've had to remove your picture due to copyrite*

We obviously do things differently here. Our towns and city's are covered with CCTV so they have plenty of pictures of their faces on Flickr for the public to see, and people are coming forward to give the names of them. One looter actually gave himself up to the police because he saw himself on t.v.

The courts are staying open 24 hours to get the ones that they have in custody sentenced.

It all started through this

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...y-the-gun.html

But as usual people jump on the bandwagon and just decide to riot for the sake of it. The youngest rioter was aged 9, so where were the parents?, with him possibly?!

A police spokesman said that they'll still be able to track them down by their clothing even though they had their faces hidden.

Residents are now fighting back to protect their towns and cities because they know the police can only do so much. Stupid?, maybe, but i'd do the same if it happened in my town.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ight-back.html

A few of my Facebook friends have said their ashamed to be British after what's happened, but i'm not. I refuse to let a bunch of idiots drag my country down!

Oh and with regards to people suing?. I think we have the USA to thank for that because we never used to sue people like we do so easily now.

Bring in the NYPD in riot gear. They'll deliver a smackdown the rioters won't soon forget.

I think if the police can't control them, they need to ask for help. I'm sure the Army could be used as well. We have the National Guard for those things, but here in NY you don't see much in the way of riots. The police here are a little hardcore.

I never understood why people would destroy their own stuff. Like the LA riots of years ago- why burn your own homes and cars? Will that make you feel better?

People have been asking for the Army to be brought in, but a police spokesman said this morning that they don't want that to happen because they feel confident with how things are going right now. They now have 16,000 police officers in London, and since then it seems to be getting under control.

The people who are destroying shops etc... are people who have no respect for themselves let alone other peoples things. They wouldn't know respect if it smacked them hard in the face. They want what other people have got, but their too lazy to get out and look for jobs to buy their own, and yes, their are jobs out there if they look for them. It might not be what they want, but times are hard for all countries right now so you take any job you can get.

One of the fires that was quite upsetting to see was a furniture store that's been in business for 140 years!. To see the elderly owner speak on t.v. was very sad because they've obviously worked hard and had a good name in business.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed-ground.html

People have been calling them animals, but it's an insult to the animal kingdom. These people are nothing more than senseless and greedy and don't deserve oxygen!.

Animals don't behave as badly as some humans. People that destroy others property are just garbage. That's really sad about the furniture shop. For someone to work their whole lives just to have someone just destroy it with a match is horrifying. That kind of stuff makes me cry.

It really is upsetting. Thanks to the idiots they've made a lot of people unemployed through burning down their shops and restaurants. But if theres one thing that makes me proud to be British, it's the people in the areas affected that have grabbed a broom and started clearing their streets up. They may have been knocked down, but they won't keep them down!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-clean-up.html

If its the ones I'm thinking of they were 3 Muslims that were mowed down by a car while protecting their property?. I'll find the link when l get into the office.

Here's the link to it

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-23333668/

The good news now is that their ready to use the water canons and rubber bullets

There's another documentry on t.v.tonight about it. I think this one is asking why they did it and talking about unemployment blah blah blah. Well, that still won't wash with me if they do use that as an excuse.

That idiot in your link said he doesn't go to college because he doesn't get paid. That's a perfect example of how most of the kids are today, they want everything handed on a plate to them!. He's hiding behind his bandana, but he's too stupid to realise that one of his friends or neighbours will eventually grass him up to the police. That's the mentality of some of them!

The parents need a good shaking and an education in parenting skills. If that was my niece or nephew that told his Mother "No" when she told him to get home because he was in trouble, l'd personally trawl the streets looking for them and wouldn't hesitate to smack them up the back of the head!. They have no respect for anyone or anything but they won't win this because the public has had enough now and the Government are seeing this.

This mother dragged her son into court yesterday and their still leaving the courts open 24 hours to do their sentencing. What amazes me is how does an 11 year old have two mobile phones as well?, because i doubt that they were purchased with honest money!

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...-11-into-court

It's the police l feel sorry for because their hands are tied as to how far they can go. I have 4 police officers as neighbours, and one of them was the one that told me their now able to use water canons and rubber bullets if needed and he was over the moon as was a lot of people!

"Ready to," but did they? I haven't seen any news this morning.

You have to remember that it's been a lot quieter the last couple of days to what it was so they haven't needed to use them, but if it starts up again then they probably will.

Here's a sample of his speech in Parliament that l watched this afternoon

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/12/wo...12britain.html

On the news this evening it showed police officers doing early morning raids dragging identified rioters and looters out their homes, and their pictures are up for the whole world to see. A handful of these idiots are intelligent people with degrees, so their hopes of ever getting a job are probably dashed now. And this girl who is an Olympic Ambassador was turned in by her own Mother, but my hat goes off to her!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ne-attack.html

Reminds me of the LA riots of 2 decades (or was it 3) ago. So many people were beaten and it was horrible until they got it under control. They tried it again, here in NY several years ago, in Brooklyn, when a Hasidic Jew hit a black child and killed him. Lasted a few hours, and tension was high, but the police in riot gear got it taken care of.

Kids with hot heads ruining their futures. Sad, but they only learn from mistakes I guess. Unfortunately, the damage will be incredible, and the Olympics are there next year! London could have been looking at a nice financial gain, instead they'll probably still be paying for repairs.

The unrest seems to have spread to Spain:
20 arrested as police clash with tourists in Lloret de Mar

Anybody remember the Watts Riots?
Today is the 46th anniversary.

Oh good grief, the worlds gone mad

I don't understand this whole situation. Honestly, I don't.

I sure don't understand these thugs who are rioting. I guess for some of them it's just "fun." How sad is that?

Watching the news & reading this thread I really don't understand not only the lack of a police response but how that is accepted. Honestly - no offense meant to the Brits who have been posting because it's very interesting to see the difference in how this situation is handled.

I just don't understand why it's not acceptable for the police to use force to get the mobs under control? I understand not wanting them to use deadly force, I guess. (Yes, I am that brutish Yank!) But beating the snot out a couple of them would surely put the cops in an advantageous position once the word got out that they aren't the pansy-boy police that couldn't do anything - they mean business.

I guess that's coming from the position of knowing what happens (from the news...never been in one!) here in the states when there's a riot. Doesn't happen often in Denver - every time we win a Championship (except soccer, apparently...ironic, huh?), and when we had the G8 Summit here a few years ago. But when it does any rioting is quashed within a couple hours at most. Tear gas is the big thing - non-lethal but it takes the fight right out of you! Bean bag shotguns and rubber bulletts have been used effectively here. We had the water cannons at the ready for the Democratic National Convention but actually didn't need to use them.

Yes, we obviously have very different methods of policing!

Although it's great that they are breaking down the doors to arrest some of the looters/rioters with the help of CCTV...wouldn't it have been better to get some sort of control earlier and perhaps stop some of the damage?

Yeah..and I guarantee that no one in our courts would be working overtime. Let 'em sit in jail until the courts can fit 'em in. May take a little longer than usual. Guess they should have thought of that before they did something STUPID!

I'm not keen on the press, but in this case they were very clever!.

They showed a reporter interviewing some of them on the banks of the Thames this morning. They were all hooded up with their bandanas on, but this is how intelligent they are!.

The reporter asked why they did it and they said because "Society let them down!". When he asked how?, one of them said that they apply for jobs and no one gets back to them I agree it's wrong, because l always e-mail anyone who applies for jobs, but it's even more wrong what he did!

Then he went on to tell the reporter that he looted the shop where he sent a job application to along with the area in which the shop was in, the reporter asked him who it was and he said the name of a well known electrical distributor here. (Keep going sweet cheeks because now they know the area they can go direct to the shop to get all the CV's that were handed in for the job and track you down that way!

The reporter pointed to the luxury apartments on the other side of the river and asked them if they would like to like to live at "Canary Wharf", which they all said yes (Another clue as to where they live!)

Thick or what!. Clearly these idiots were born with their brains in their pants!!

I think l can honestly speak for the majority of the country. If I had my way they would be flogged in public like they did in medieval times no matter how young they were. As l said earlier the police hands are tied because they can only do so much, it's down to the Goverment to change their policies on how far they can go. It frustrates us so you can imagine how the police feel knowing they can't lift their baton when their being goaded by these idiots

The whole country has gone too far on it's human right's and political correctness and it's time to change.

Not all these lowlifes are unemployed - or at least they weren't. I read yesterday about a postman who was charged, also a teaching assistant. I don't see how a teaching assistant can possibly keep his job once charged with a public order offence.

You know, I was thinking it would be interesting if the courts were to treat these destroying robbers like terrorists and use the anti-terrorism legislation on them. Might need a few more prisons though!

There's been a drop of rain these last two days - maybe that's had an effect too. They wouldn't want to get their designer hoodies wet now, would they?

That's why l mentioned this
I heard of the teaching assistant as well. And thats someone teaching the youth of today!. A fine example to them

Cameron has new plans to stop escalating unrest :
British PM proposes social media ban for rioters

I don't know how they would be able to control that?.

Again, it shows the mentality of these people to let the world and his wife know what their planning, and thinking they'll never be able to get tracked down!

I like the plan. They can probably just turn off data plans on suspects phones. It seems like a good idea, considering they do their planning online and on their phones. They can also cut off internet to computers. If that's what it takes, I'd be ok with it.

I hate to say it, but it is time to bring in the heavy artillery for these thug losers. Social media ban? How in the world will that help? If anything, it will make these people more angry and cause them to riot more. Bring out the guns and start shooting any and all looters and fire bombers and you will see how fast this riot will end. This is something that will only go away when: 1) The people grow bored and tired of rioting, but this could be quite a while. Or 2) Meet this riot head on with force much stronger than they.