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post #1 of 24
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We might have to give up Cammy. I can't think of another option.

She's puking again. We've gone through all our savings since Dylan's been born. I'm not working, and we just have one car. There are a few places near walking distance I could get a job, but after paying for daycare I wouldn't even be making anything. We have nothing to sell. Everything we have is a few years old and we wouldn't get much for it. There's not much we can give up. We don't eat out anymore, we don't go to the movies, we don't smoke.

Between student loans, the car loan, diapers formula, groceries...we're stretched thin.
post #2 of 24
I cant imagine why anyone would hate you. You have obviously done everything you can for your cat.

Best wishes.
post #3 of 24
Do you know what is causing the vomiting? You said "again"...what was it in the past?
post #4 of 24
How very sad!! Do you have a trusted friend or relative that can keep your kitty until you get through these hard times??
I've certainly taken in kitties for friends and sometimes people I barely know, just until their owners get back on their feet again.
Some times these things happen to us-we don't have any control over them. You're having a streak of terrible luck.
post #5 of 24
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Originally Posted by zoeysmom View Post
Do you know what is causing the vomiting? You said "again"...what was it in the past?
They thought she had a bowel obstruction, so they opened her up and he intestines were all clenched up.

http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=208176

The vets here are stupid and they didn't figure out what exactly it was. We switched her food and it worked for a while.
post #6 of 24
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How very sad!! Do you have a trusted friend or relative that can keep your kitty until you get through these hard times??
I've certainly taken in kitties for friends and sometimes people I barely know, just until their owners get back on their feet again.
Some times these things happen to us-we don't have any control over them. You're having a streak of terrible luck.
Not really. Family members either don't like cats, have a dog or aren't in a situation to take her. Especially since she's sick.
post #7 of 24
I know this sounds really bad but I would probably stop paying my student loans. Are they yours or his? If your not working I wouldn't pay and call and get a deferment (sp) Only you know what you can or cannot do and whatever decision you make will be difficult. I am so sorry you are at this point.

What did the vets say was going to happen if changing the food doesn't work? I wonder if she is getting chronically constipated which is leading to dehydration which causes the bowels to constrict even more. She may need i.v. fluids than something to get her bowels moving again. Just a thought.

I am so sorry you are faced with this.
post #8 of 24
You're in my thoughts and prayers. I wish you lived closer.
post #9 of 24
I'm so sorry.

Have you tried just putting her on boiled rice and chicken for a few days?
post #10 of 24
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I'm so sorry.

Have you tried just putting her on boiled rice and chicken for a few days?
She's very, very picky. I'm going to buy some canned food and see if she'll eat that. Maybe if she's puking because she's dehydrated it will help.
post #11 of 24
How awful to have to face such a decision. Sending loads of positive thoughts your way.
post #12 of 24
Is this vomiting or regurgitating? When they opened her up, did they do a biopsy for IBD? Have they tried putting her on prednisolone?
post #13 of 24
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Originally Posted by kscatlady View Post
We might have to give up Cammy. I can't think of another option.

She's puking again. We've gone through all our savings since Dylan's been born. I'm not working, and we just have one car. There are a few places near walking distance I could get a job, but after paying for daycare I wouldn't even be making anything. We have nothing to sell. Everything we have is a few years old and we wouldn't get much for it. There's not much we can give up. We don't eat out anymore, we don't go to the movies, we don't smoke.

Between student loans, the car loan, diapers formula, groceries...we're stretched thin.
I for one do NOT hate you. I can understand your situation as I had a similar one years ago. Do you want me to try and find you a low cost vet in your area? Also if you can not rehome her maybe it would be less cruel to put her down?
post #14 of 24
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Is this vomiting or regurgitating? When they opened her up, did they do a biopsy for IBD? Have they tried putting her on prednisolone?
I don't know...how do you tell? (about the vomiting) They didn't do a biopsy, I don't know why.

I was thinking though, last time they gave her a cortisone shot and an enema. Maybe if we just do that and they don't keeP her for observation we figure out a payment. I have some ideas. I'll update more when I'm not on my phone.
post #15 of 24
Maybe someone from TCS lives fairly close and can take her in? There certainly are a lot of us here.
post #16 of 24
There are a couple of us who live in Kansas! Your profile says you live in Mulvane, and that's about 3.5 hours away from me... as of right now I am not in a position to take in another cat, but I will absolutely ask around and see if anyone I know would be able to help you.
post #17 of 24
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Originally Posted by kscatlady View Post
I don't know...how do you tell? (about the vomiting) They didn't do a biopsy, I don't know why.

I was thinking though, last time they gave her a cortisone shot and an enema. Maybe if we just do that and they don't keeP her for observation we figure out a payment. I have some ideas. I'll update more when I'm not on my phone.
Regurgitating it is soon after she eats, and you see whole pieces of the food, kibbles - that is a super easy fix - it does not mean she is sick.
Vomiting, on the other hand, is digestive food, and in cats you often see bile - the yellow liquid stuff - that can be more complicated.

I can NOT believe they opened her up and did not do a biopsy - sorry, but that's stupidity at the highest degree (on their part)

Well, too late now......

But, here is one thing you can try, and it is CHEAP: One of the main causes for vomiting in cats (since you already did an exploratory surgery and saw nothing), is IBD. When it is on the upper digestive system, you see vomiting, instead of diarrhea. That can be easily manageable with prednisolone - that is a very affordable treatment, and you can easily do a trail period with your vet instead of doing a biopsy.
Ask him/her to start her on prednisolone now (if this is vomiting) and see how she does - usually you start at a higher does - like 10mg a day for 10 days/2 weeks, then you taper her off to the lowest level that works for her - even once every couple of days.
If that works, it can solve your problem.
If this is regurgitation, there are other things that can solve it.....
Don't give up yet, we might be able to help you out here
post #18 of 24
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Regurgitating it is soon after she eats, and you see whole pieces of the food, kibbles - that is a super easy fix - it does not mean she is sick.
Vomiting, on the other hand, is digestive food, and in cats you often see bile - the yellow liquid stuff - that can be more complicated.

I can NOT believe they opened her up and did not do a biopsy - sorry, but that's stupidity at the highest degree (on their part)

Well, too late now......

But, here is one thing you can try, and it is CHEAP: One of the main causes for vomiting in cats (since you already did an exploratory surgery and saw nothing), is IBD. When it is on the upper digestive system, you see vomiting, instead of diarrhea. That can be easily manageable with prednisolone - that is a very affordable treatment, and you can easily do a trail period with your vet instead of doing a biopsy.
Ask him/her to start her on prednisolone now (if this is vomiting) and see how she does - usually you start at a higher does - like 10mg a day for 10 days/2 weeks, then you taper her off to the lowest level that works for her - even once every couple of days.
If that works, it can solve your problem.
If this is regurgitation, there are other things that can solve it.....
Don't give up yet, we might be able to help you out here
Ok, I think it's regurgitation then. I also thinking maybe it's from stress. I have some ideas. I started a thread earlier about letting her outside. I haven't yet (except when she sneaks out) because she isn't vaccinated for being an outdoor cat). I'm going to get her vaccinated. I'm going to try and add some more vertical space for her to get away from the baby. Maybe his newfound mobility is stressing her out. I'm going to take her to the vet clinic that takes payments and tell them I'm on a very strict budget, and I'll have to give them postdated checks and they need to run any costs by me.

Last night she came to Jon and me in bed and was so sweet. She usually doesn't do that anymore. She slept cuddled up by me most of the night. Rehoming her is definitely a last resort. My old job wants me to come back for a new position. It won't be much, but assuming I can find child care for Dylan and he's happy. I can start another cat fund.

Carolina, what are my options since it's regurgitation? And what should I ask the vet? I never know what questions to ask. Like the biopsy thing.
post #19 of 24
Does she eat real fast. That often will cause vomiting whole kibble right after eating. If she does you can do some things to slow her down. Putting her bowl on a low stand like they do with dog breeds that are prone to bloat will slow her down. I have also heard of putting a ping pong ball in the bowl with her kibble. She has to move the ball around to eat around the ball and it will slow her down. I am sure there are other ways to slow her down those are just the two I have heard of. I too can't believe they didn't do a biopsy after they opened her up and there was no blockage since IBD is fairly common in cats.
post #20 of 24
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Does she eat real fast. That often will cause vomiting whole kibble right after eating. If she does you can do some things to slow her down. Putting her bowl on a low stand like they do with dog breeds that are prone to bloat will slow her down. I have also heard of putting a ping pong ball in the bowl with her kibble. She has to move the ball around to eat around the ball and it will slow her down. I am sure there are other ways to slow her down those are just the two I have heard of. I too can't believe they didn't do a biopsy after they opened her up and there was no blockage since IBD is fairly common in cats.

Regurgitating is not a big deal, and doesn't mean she is sick at all.... I am glad to hear this might be the issue - no need to put her outside either, if this is why you are thinking about doing it.
Yes, the most common reason for regurgitating is eating too fast.
You can do several things:
Elevate the food bowl - this can be easily done by placing a thick phone book below it.
Like Denice said, put a couple of clean ping pong bowls in the plate. There are slow bowl feeders, but this is a cheaper alternative.
Buy bigger kibbles - dental variety is best - the bigger the better, this will help her chew.
You can also create feeding toys, by making holes in a small water bottle and putting her food inside of it - she the needs to play with it, and will eat slower.
She can be having some hairball problems as well - once a week, just for good measure, give her 1cc of 100% pure vaseline (one inch on your finger) or another hairball medicine. IMHO pure vaseline is the very best (helps that it is the cheapest too.
These things should help a whole lot
post #21 of 24
Sorry to hear you're going through all this right now. I hope you're able to find a solution....

Cammy's puking kind of sounds like Genever. She pukes 'for no reason', I thought it was regurgitation, but after more talking with the vet and reading and stuff, we think it's vomiting. Even though it's almost always after she eats, no matter what she ate- wet, dry, allergy food, etc. But sometimes it's hours after she last ate, but still looks like a pile/puddle of food. She keeps pooping regularly and isn't losing weight though, so some food gets through ok.. Sometimes there are definitely hairballs in the puke, so then I'll give her Laxatone for a week or so. But I did the ping pong balls in the bowl, tried very small meals, her dishes are already elevated, nothing helped. We tried a bunch of different meds, anti-nausea stuff, stuff to coat and heal any potential ulcers/sores, an x-ray, and eventually tried prednisolone as a last resort to doing an ultrasound or endoscope (per my vet's suggestions, but I'm ok with it all so far). The prednisolone has helped A LOT. She still pukes, but not nearly as often as before. She started out 5mg/day for a month, then down to 2.5mg/day. We tried to reduce it to 2.5mg every other day, but whenever I try that, it doesn't work and she pukes more again. Just last week I tried skipping a day, and she puked 4 times in about 30 hours. I was about to call the vet if it continued another day, but she stopped. And before that she didn't puke since July 19. (I keep a journal of what they eat, when they get their pills, if they puke, etc.)

So, you do what you need to do, but I just thought I'd relay my experience, in case it helps at all. Good luck!!
post #22 of 24
I can attest to the wonders of prednisone/prednisolone and also that it is dirt cheap. If you can get a script from your vet and take it to a pharmacy it is even cheaper. For my own prescription, the dispensing fee is usually more than 100 pills or so.

I'm glad you are able to take her to the vet. Ask them about IBD and treating with prednisone/prednisolone (they are the same drug, just different compounds or something...I have read that prednisolone is better for cats as they metabolize it better). Belle's also doing well on her Hills i/d food...vomits much less often (usually only if she steals a sip or nibble of something not good for her tummy...like milk). I think people with IBD cats have also had some luck with probiotics, as well.

I'm a person with IBD. I'm not sure if it's the same with cats, but there is really nothing that causes my flare ups, and the only thing that gets them under control is prednisone. It's a wonder drug...except for the side effects (which aren't as bad for cats).

Is Cammy still eating/drinking well?
post #23 of 24
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Originally Posted by zoeysmom View Post
I'm a person with IBD. I'm not sure if it's the same with cats, but there is really nothing that causes my flare ups, and the only thing that gets them under control is prednisone. It's a wonder drug...except for the side effects (which aren't as bad for cats).

Is Cammy still eating/drinking well?
Oh man, thread hijack - sorry.... I am also a person with IBD, however there is a LOT of things that causes flares on me (it did before Align, actually, not anymore)..... Align (as in the probiotic Align) has changed my life around I know of a lot of people who take it and it has done the same for them (I was told to take by a friend - it is NOT the same as other probiotics.... I PROMISE you ) If you haven't tried yet, do it - you might just get off pred...... You are talking to 2 pred-free here due to align: Me and Bugsy
post #24 of 24
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I'm letting her out (after proper vaccination) because she desperately wants to go outside. She's not happy being indoor only.
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