Best cat if i have allergies ? Hypoallergenic

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I know that no cat is hypoallergenic and that they all produce FelD1 or whatever it is in their saliva. But i really really want a cat although i am quite allergic to them . So out of the following which would be best for me ?What are your guys/girls experiences with these breeds

Siberian
Ocicat
Russian Blue
Birman
Siamese
 

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Many breeders simply state that some of their cats are less allergenic to promote their cat or breed... plain and simple. Its nonsense not proven by any scientific study.

Personally, while a big fan of cats, I do not recommend intentionally subjecting yourself to known allergens and permanently having to deal with the repercussions of short and long term side-effects of persistent allergen medication, especially since they may interact negatively with other medications you may need to take at some point in the future.

I'd personally still get a pet, but a different species like one of various dog breeds, a parakeet (some breeds are really smart), ferret (although they do have an odor), rabbit, etc. They need loving homes too, and is a healthier match.
 

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Originally Posted by elmonster

I know that no cat is hypoallergenic and that they all produce FelD1 or whatever it is in their saliva. But i really really want a cat although i am quite allergic to them . So out of the following which would be best for me ?What are your guys/girls experiences with these breeds

Siberian
Ocicat
Russian Blue
Birman
Siamese
If you have a tested allergy to Fel-d 1, then it doesn't matter what breed
 

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Originally Posted by Ducman69

Personally, while a big fan of cats, I do not recommend intentionally subjecting yourself to known allergens
Actually, subjecting yourself to known allergens (provided the reaction isn't life threatening) is the best way to build up immunity.

I'm allergic to pretty much anything with fur, but I can comfortable live with my pets because I've been exposed to them for so long.
I get around someone else's cat and I'll have a slightly worse reaction, but still tolerable.
 

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Originally Posted by Arlyn

Actually, subjecting yourself to known allergens (provided the reaction isn't life threatening) is the best way to build up immunity.
True, but so is consuming small amounts of poisons or drinking dirty water or expired food, none of which is healthy, and I have never witnessed someone with a strong allergic reaction to anything actually get over it. So simply put, I love peanut butter and jelly sammiches, they are my favorite, but I'd recommend grilled cheese as a nice alternative to someone with a peanut allergy.


My fear is the spread of the rumor that some cats are less allergenic, as what I think ends up happening is the person either forms a bond at the compromise of their own health or the cat ends up getting dumped as the runny eyes, lung irritation, and pill popping side-effects becomes too much over time.
 
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Thank you for all the posts !!!!But the Siberian has been proven to have much less of the FelD1 protein in their saliva and iv read many stories of people who are very allergic to cats have no symptoms with a siberian !But i'm going to contact a breeder and ask if i could come to their home and see if i have any kind of reaction being around the cat! that should get it sorted once and for all
 

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Originally Posted by elmonster

Thank you for all the posts !!!!But the Siberian has been proven to have much less of the FelD1 protein in their saliva and iv read many stories of people who are very allergic to cats have no symptoms with a siberian !But i'm going to contact a breeder and ask if i could come to their home and see if i have any kind of reaction being around the cat! that should get it sorted once and for all
I wish you the very best of luck! If you have little to no reaction that would be wonderful but don't beat yourself up if you can't handle being around them.
Remember if you're miserable and sickly around the cat, the cat won't be that happy either.
 

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I am extremely allergic to cats and had considered getting a Siberian before and did a LOT of research. Not all Siberians are created equal and some come from lines that do not have a lower incidence of the fel-d1, like the Neva Masquerade Siberians. The tabbies have a lower level, females have a lower level than males. Before proceeding, please do your research on the breeders. Kittens have a lower level of fel-d1, so just spending time with the kittens is not an accurate gauge. You need to spend time with the parents as well. I did a "fur test". The breeder will send fur from the parents to you and you tuck it into your pillowcase. I was still allergic, but not as allergic as I am to my current cat. The bottom lien for me is that it wouldn't have been wise for me to add a bit more allergen to my house at this time. I don't think I would be able to handle my current cat, plus a Siberian. I may be able to handle two Siberians though. As long as I have my current cat, I will be a one cat household and she will be an only cat.

This article explains some different ways to deal with cat allergies.


http://www.thecatsite.com/Health/223...t-Allergy.html
 

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Originally Posted by elmonster

I know that no cat is hypoallergenic and that they all produce FelD1 or whatever it is in their saliva. But i really really want a cat although i am quite allergic to them . So out of the following which would be best for me ?What are your guys/girls experiences with these breeds

Siberian
Ocicat
Russian Blue
Birman
Siamese
Originally Posted by elmonster

Thank you for all the posts !!!!But the Siberian has been proven to have much less of the FelD1 protein in their saliva and iv read many stories of people who are very allergic to cats have no symptoms with a siberian !But i'm going to contact a breeder and ask if i could come to their home and see if i have any kind of reaction being around the cat! that should get it sorted once and for all
Some lines of Siberian cats.

Originally Posted by AbbysMom

I am extremely allergic to cats and had considered getting a Siberian before and did a LOT of research. Not all Siberians are created equal and some come from lines that do not have a lower incidence of the fel-d1, like the Neva Masquerade Siberians. The tabbies have a lower level, females have a lower level than males. Before proceeding, please do your research on the breeders. Kittens have a lower level of fel-d1, so just spending time with the kittens is not an accurate gauge. You need to spend time with the parents as well. I did a "fur test". The breeder will send fur from the parents to you and you tuck it into your pillowcase. I was still allergic, but not as allergic as I am to my current cat. The bottom lien for me is that it wouldn't have been wise for me to add a bit more allergen to my house at this time. I don't think I would be able to handle my current cat, plus a Siberian. I may be able to handle two Siberians though. As long as I have my current cat, I will be a one cat household and she will be an only cat.

This article explains some different ways to deal with cat allergies.


http://www.thecatsite.com/Health/223...t-Allergy.html
Correct for the most part. I believe the PURE tabby lines have the least amount of FelD1 protein. The reason for this is I am guessing is that the other colors that have been added to the breed caused some lines/colors to have more/normal amounts of FelD1 protein in there saliva.
 
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Alright good to know i'll do my research on the breeders and try and find a pure tabby ,female to test my allergies on . I also heard that the silver colored siberians have the most of the protein not sure if this true but....... hmm it will be interesting to see how it goes! Maybe i could go this weekend to see one !
 

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Originally Posted by Cat Person

I believe the PURE tabby lines have the least amount of FelD1 protein. The reason for this is I am guessing is that the other colors that have been added to the breed caused some lines/colors to have more/normal amounts of FelD1 protein in there saliva.
What exactly do you mean by 'PURE tabby lines'? Lines without solid color cats? Specific pattern only, which one? Which colors would you rule out?
Siberian is a natural breed, nothing has been 'added' to them, they have developed on their own in the first place and even today they still take novices to the breed.

I can give an advice to the OP, if the breeder tries to sell their Siberians by claiming they are hypoallergenic, run to the opposite direction.
 

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Originally Posted by NorthernGlow

What exactly do you mean by 'PURE tabby lines'? Lines without solid color cats? Specific pattern only, which one? Which colors would you rule out?
Siberian is a natural breed, nothing has been 'added' to them, they have developed on their own in the first place and even today they still take novices to the breed.

I can give an advice to the OP, if the breeder tries to sell their Siberians by claiming they are hypoallergenic, run to the opposite direction.
The way this was explained to me is the color point genes and other non-natural colors ( I need to find my notes about what that means) where crossed into the breed. As you pointed out it was a naturally occurring breed. From the veterinarians and breeders locally I spoke with said only brown and brown tabby where the "natural colors" hence I am assuming are the ones that lack some or all of the FeDL 1 protein.

If this is vastly incorect I am sorry but that is what I was told. Also to my understanding that made sense.

To the OP meeting the kitten you want sounds like a VERY wise idea. I had no idea silver had more FeDL 1 protein.
 

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I have a mild cat allergy and it took a few weeks of living with my Annie before I became adjusted and now I have no issues whatsoever. I also visited the shelter that she was at frequently and would hold her and rub my hands on my face to see if there was a reaction (some cats would cause a reaction immediately and others less, Annie provided only an extremely mild reaction).

My mother owns two Siberians, and whenever I visit her my allergies go nuts, so I don't really buy into their being hypoallergenic. And despite what I've read about Siberians shedding less, her male sheds like crazy, year round, and I'm sure that doesn't help with any issues.
 

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I'm mildly allergic to cats. My cats don't bother me too much as I am immune to them. I sleep with a humidifier on and always keep my bedding clean. They sleep with me, but it doesn't bother my sinuses.

Now I work at a shelter and I can't tolerate long-haired cats, I get super stuffy even if I take an allergy pill befoe-hand I can't be around them for a long period of time. I have found out short-haired cats they don't trigger the allergies as much and I have 3 short-haired cats and my allergies are just fine with them.
 

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Originally Posted by Cat Person

The way this was explained to me is the color point genes and other non-natural colors ( I need to find my notes about what that means) where crossed into the breed. As you pointed out it was a naturally occurring breed. From the veterinarians and breeders locally I spoke with said only brown and brown tabby where the "natural colors" hence I am assuming are the ones that lack some or all of the FeDL 1 protein.

If this is vastly incorect I am sorry but that is what I was told. Also to my understanding that made sense.
The colorpoint gene naturally occurs in the breed. It was bred out (well, they tried, but it's recessive so impossible, that's why they accepted Neva Masquerade) at one point, but some studies showed that there really were natural colorpoint cats living in the Neva area, thus it was not hybridization. Also diluted colors are natural to the breed. Do your sources determine whether only solid/tabby blacks are the pure ones, or does it include bicolors?
 

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Originally Posted by NorthernGlow

The colorpoint gene naturally occurs in the breed. It was bred out (well, they tried, but it's recessive so impossible, that's why they accepted Neva Masquerade) at one point, but some studies showed that there really were natural colorpoint cats living in the Neva area, thus it was not hybridization. Also diluted colors are natural to the breed. Do your sources determine whether only solid/tabby blacks are the pure ones, or does it include bicolors?
Please note my sources are only three veterinarians and one breeder so this information is not scientific
. It says tabby pattern/brown/black are the natural ones. It says any other color/pattern was "added" to the breed.

Like I said I have NO idea if this is correct or not. I have never owned this breed of cat. Tonight I can see if I can find any scientific articles about the above issue.

You seem to know a lot more about the breed so maybe you can advise
? I am sure you can advise better then me now
, so go right ahead
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Originally Posted by Cat Person

You seem to know a lot more about the breed so maybe you can advise
? I am sure you can advise better then me now
, so go right ahead
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I don't know much about the breed, but they are very popular here (probably because we're located next to Russia) so I've seen lots of them and discussed with many owners and breeders. The breed club also has advised breeders not to sell kittens to allergic people who have chosen the breed only because they think Siberians are hypoallergenic, because this has never been scientifically proofed and there has been many situations where the new owner has had to give the cat back/away because they are allergic after all.

(The colorpoint debate ended up dividing the Siberian club into 2 different clubs.. The other welcomes Neva Masquerades too, the other club doesn't want anything to do with it.
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Originally Posted by NorthernGlow

I don't know much about the breed, but they are very popular here (probably because we're located next to Russia) so I've seen lots of them and discussed with many owners and breeders.
I love how you say you don't know much about the breed but you are probably one of the the best informed on the forums on the matter.


I love your posts around the forums. Please post pictures of your cats soon! (Especially Kuura, I love Kuura!!!
)

PS: To the OP elmonster- Sorry for hijacking your thread to make my comment!
 

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Originally Posted by NorthernGlow

I don't know much about the breed, but they are very popular here (probably because we're located next to Russia) so I've seen lots of them and discussed with many owners and breeders. The breed club also has advised breeders not to sell kittens to allergic people who have chosen the breed only because they think Siberians are hypoallergenic, because this has never been scientifically proofed and there has been many situations where the new owner has had to give the cat back/away because they are allergic after all.

(The colorpoint debate ended up dividing the Siberian club into 2 different clubs.. The other welcomes Neva Masquerades too, the other club doesn't want anything to do with it.
)
This is the only thing I can find that does not seem like complete _ _ _ _ (fill in the blank
): http://www.siberian-cat-breeder.com/...genic_cat.html . Let me know what you think.

Originally Posted by aprilyim

I love how you say you don't know much about the breed but you are probably the best informed on the forums on the matter.


I love your posts around the forums. Please post pictures of your cats soon! (Especially Kuura, I love Kuura!!!
)

PS: To the OP elmonster- Sorry for hijacking your thread to make my comment!
I agree with you about Northern Glow knowing a lot about this breed of cat
. If you ask me they need to give themselves more credit
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