QUESTION for the OLD MEN of TCS....Ladies be-aware! enter on your Own risk...

Most vitamins and minerals are fine... but please, Rigel, don't be tempted to take any kind of hormones. When you tamper with the natural hormones your body produces at any stage of your life, you're taking some big risks. Here's the scariest one:

Most of us have a few cancer cells in our bodies at any given time, and our immune systems are able to keep them from multiplying and becoming a problem. But when you take hormones like testosterone and HGH, you're encouraging your body's cells to grow faster and stronger -- and that includes those cancer cells.

Please don't risk it! Eat healthy meals, take a good multivitamin, maybe some extra B-complex, and love yourself just as you are. We sure do!

Originally Posted by CarolPetunia

Most vitamins and minerals are fine... but please, Rigel, don't be tempted to take any kind of hormones. When you tamper with the natural hormones your body produces at any stage of your life, you're taking some big risks. Here's the scariest one:

Most of us have a few cancer cells in our bodies at any given time, and our immune systems are able to keep them from multiplying and becoming a problem. But when you take hormones like testosterone and HGH, you're encouraging your body's cells to grow faster and stronger -- and that includes those cancer cells.

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very well Carol... is a wonderful advice...

Originally Posted by CarolPetunia

Please don't risk it! Eat healthy meals, take a good multivitamin, maybe some extra B-complex, and love yourself just as you are. We sure do!

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awww... .... ... thanks!...

Originally Posted by Feralvr

HEE HEE

I had to come back to take another peek

This thread makes me

Love YA, Rigel, you funny old man

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Meanwhile you do not say me Old pervert man... all is right!


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I was thinking about this thread last night. I am sure the reason you are feeling... is !! That's what I blame it on in my house!!

I have feel some backpains lately my friend... furthermore some others pains that I do not have before... but nothing serious!..

cool participation!...


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where are the "old man" of TCS?...

I admit I looked too. And as Gemlady said, if we ladies did not look, it would be a very, very short thread.

Originally Posted by CarolPetunia

Most of us have a few cancer cells in our bodies at any given time, and our immune systems are able to keep them from multiplying and becoming a problem. But when you take hormones like testosterone and HGH, you're encouraging your body's cells to grow faster and stronger -- and that includes those cancer cells.

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Testosterone has been shown to increase existing cancer growth rates, HOWEVER, it has also been found that some cancers such as the predominant prostate cancer are linked to testosterone deficiency. Thus physicians are now okaying testosterone for cancer free patients following treatment. Also, it is misleading as IGF-1 is linked to cancer, not HGH specifically, and they are not inherently directly linked. It is also important to differentiate between healthy restorative natural levels in replacement therapy, and HGH abuse as done in test animals and seen in some athletes and body builders. Low HGH/testosterone in aging men has also been rather conclusively shown to contribute to tendon, cartilage, and memory loss. So, controversy aside, even if there is mild cancer risk increase, the benefit to muscle tone, fat loss, joints, memory, healing, libido, and more becomes a question of lesser evil. That is why I think its important to discuss it with a physician to get the facts of candidacy and the benefits versus side-effects.

Sylvester Stallone may be overdoing it, but he also wouldn't still have the flexibility, muscle tone, and lean mass w/o the help at the ripe age of 65 IMO.

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All that may be true, and of course I hope it is. It would be wonderful to have something safe and effective that could help us feel younger for longer!

But every doctor I've asked in the past ten years has told me not to do HRT, and a friend who used to work as a cancer specialist has told me a lot of horror stories that involved cancers being apparently triggered by HRT and other hormones, as well as by pregnancy and dietary extremes. So my philosophy is to leave well enough alone.

I'd love it if it turns out I'm being overcautious! But the current level of study on this is not enough to reassure me.

Female anatomy != Male anatomy

I've done no research on females, so it may very well be that ESTROGEN + PROGESTERONE replacements cause all kinds of issues with the female plumbing and breast cancer risks, etc. Could be a nightmare best avoided. But testosterone and HGH have totally different effects on a different type of body than estrogen/prog on a woman though.

OK....I had to peek, too!

DH takes a multi-vitamin every day Monday through Friday. One fish oil gel tab twice a day (1,000 mg each). That's pretty much it for him. He is an epileptic and is taking two different meds to control grand mal seizures; both are pills and are taken three times a day.

He just turned 60 this year and is noticing all kinds of aches and pains that he didn't have when he was younger. He never had a lot of back problems, but his back has been twinging quite the bit the last few years. He tries to be careful and that's difficult sometimes.

The reason we don't take the multi-vitamin on weekends is because we think that we can a lot of these vitamins and minerals from the food we eat. We consume a lot of fresh produce; even though some of them may be cooked, I try not to over-cook veggies.

I take the same multi-vitamin throughout the week, but not on weekends, and I take the fish oil gel tabs, too. I'm also on 1,000 I.U. of Vitamin D3 and 1200 mg of calcium. And a baby aspirin every night.

As for the HRT, I've been on it now for well over ten years. Mine is a compound of estrogen, testosterone, and progesterone and is made at one of the few remaining compound pharmacies in the U.S. I was on Premarin for several years, but breast cancer is rampant in my family on both my parents' sides. Since I had had a hysterectomy at 24 (I'm 56 now), I wasn't ready to go without hormones. I have my blood tested every year and I religiously go for mammograms annually, too.

While HRT may not be the root cause of all breast cancers, I do think that these types of cancer can "feed" off the HRT meds and grow more rapidly than if the patient was not taking HRT.

So that's my two cents, FWIW!

Originally Posted by CoolCat

Meanwhile you do not say me Old pervert man...

all is right!

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Oh never..... In fact, I really don't have a clue HOW old you are . You "could" be a young ....... man. (just a joke, my friend, so that you may have a laugh today )

Originally Posted by Feralvr

Oh never.....

In fact, I really don't have a clue HOW old you are

. You "could" be a young ....... man.

(just a joke, my friend, so that you may have a laugh today

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Well, our lovely Karen can she have the answer my friend... why you don´t ask her....

Originally Posted by Winchester

OK....I had to peek, too!

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bad chick!.. the Curiosity kills the Cat!...

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PAM, thanks for your aportation at the thread!

Originally Posted by Feralvr

Oh never.....

In fact, I really don't have a clue HOW old you are

. You "could" be a young ....... man.

(just a joke, my friend, so that you may have a laugh today

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Well if our dear friend here has listed his birth date correctly on Facebook; then he is old enough to have been my babysitter but is not old enough to be my father and I am 28. Well I guess he COULD have; but it would have raised a few eyebrows...but not unheard of by today's standards either I guess.

wow...did any of that make sense or do I just need another nap?

Originally Posted by MoochNNoodles

Well if our dear friend here has listed his birth date correctly on Facebook; then he is old enough to have been my babysitter but is not old enough to be my father and I am 28. Well I guess he COULD have; but it would have raised a few eyebrows...but not unheard of by today's standards either I guess.

wow...did any of that make sense or do I just need another nap?

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Originally Posted by CoolCat

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Well the inspiration came from another thread here in this same forum BUT just for Ladies.......& I swear!... I didn´t to SNEACK around!....

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Sure you don't

I had the hope that Chris do not came to here... but I was wrong!...

I should to re-name this thread...as...maybe: Welcome to the Gossip club!....

Of course I read it, I don't believe Rigel when he says a thread is for men only anymore

I am in my 20s but I should probably still take multivitamin, and I don't ...and my diet sucks so I think I'm F'd