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post #1 of 12
7/10/11 at 12:54pm
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I saw this on the way home yesterday and had to do a double take. Yup, that's really what it says...



Open for discussion.
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post #2 of 12
7/10/11 at 1:44pm
One of my favorite authors, Terry Pratchett, has Alzheimers and is a leader in that organization.
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post #3 of 12
7/10/11 at 1:53pm
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
One of my favorite authors, Terry Pratchett, has Alzheimers and is a leader in that organization.
I was so sad when I heard that. He is such a clever, brilliant writer.

I do think we need to have more discussion about the end of life. I have dealt with 3 deaths of close relatives over the last three years. There is a point where heroics don't do anything but destroy the quality of life left. We need to talk about the cure vs the comfort. Is it really in one's best interest to aggressively fight a disease for an additional 2 or 3 months?

I've seen more loving discussions about treating our feline companions at the end of life than I've heard about treating our elderly and terminally ill.
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post #4 of 12
7/10/11 at 1:59pm
Yes, it seems wrong to me that what we consider a kindness for our pets is considered murder by the criminal code in most states.
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post #5 of 12
7/10/11 at 2:13pm
What I don't want to see are Futurama style suicide booths.

Some people are simply depressed or mentally unfit and may resort to suicide as a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

However, if there were a means where someone could demonstrate that they have a diagnosed terminal illness that is known to significantly degrade their quality of life, or have two doctors that can testify that they are of sound mind, after a short waiting period to think it over and say goodbyes then we should have mercy and allow them to go with dignity as it is their life and their decision.

I would expect no less for myself and my loved ones.
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post #6 of 12
7/10/11 at 2:16pm
Nothing against the organization or what they do, but huge skyline billboards for advertising just seems a tiny bit strange.
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post #7 of 12
7/10/11 at 9:48pm
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Originally Posted by Skippymjp View Post
Nothing against the organization or what they do, but huge skyline billboards for advertising just seems a tiny bit strange.
That's exactly what I thought, Mike. It isn't what they are saying, but where and how.

It reminded me of an episode of Law & Order: SVU where a similar type of "network" ended up on trial for the deaths of multiple people who were in a car v train "accident" (car parked on the tracks at night...).

Obviously that was fiction and this is reality. And this was on a big billboard in a Denver suburb.
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post #8 of 12
7/10/11 at 11:13pm
How else do you get the message out?

Television commercials in between the Daily Show?

Radio advertisements in between rock songs?

Banners on AARP.com?

Billboards are just as good as any other medium I can think of and they only used text.

Every single one of us has an expiration date, so I don't see why something so common and natural and affects all of us is a taboo topic to be swept under the carpet.
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post #9 of 12
7/11/11 at 7:36am
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Originally Posted by Ducman69 View Post
How else do you get the message out?

Television commercials in between the Daily Show?

Radio advertisements in between rock songs?

Banners on AARP.com?

Billboards are just as good as any other medium I can think of and they only used text.

Every single one of us has an expiration date, so I don't see why something so common and natural and affects all of us is a taboo topic to be swept under the carpet.
Well, for one, it's in Denver. Colorado is one of the 47 states where assisted suicide is illegal. Two, this organization claims to "assist" people who would not qualify under the law in the places where it is legal. And the subject is still highly controversial everywhere, so even if it were in a locale where it's legal, it's still in very bad form. Prostitution is also illegal in 49.9 states, victimless and controversial, and you don't see billboards advertising brothels.
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post #10 of 12
7/11/11 at 1:27pm
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
That's exactly what I thought, Mike. It isn't what they are saying, but where and how.

It reminded me of an episode of Law & Order: SVU where a similar type of "network" ended up on trial for the deaths of multiple people who were in a car v train "accident" (car parked on the tracks at night...).

Obviously that was fiction and this is reality. And this was on a big billboard in a Denver suburb.
I thought about that episode too, actually- it was called "Catching the Train" or something like that. I believe the woman in charge was found guilty of helping the victim commit suicide, but she herself had a debilitating illness and ended up walking / getting treatment. I remember Munch talking to her at the very end.

Insofar as the billboard and idea go, I think it's pretty morbid, but... to each their own. I believe in the right to make your own decisions.
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post #11 of 12
7/12/11 at 2:43pm
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Originally Posted by Skippymjp View Post
Well, for one, it's in Denver. Colorado is one of the 47 states where assisted suicide is illegal. Two, this organization claims to "assist" people who would not qualify under the law in the places where it is legal. And the subject is still highly controversial everywhere, so even if it were in a locale where it's legal, it's still in very bad form. Prostitution is also illegal in 49.9 states, victimless and controversial, and you don't see billboards advertising brothels.
Laws are just rules written by people and can be changed at any time. Slavery was once legal in all states, it was once illegal for women to vote, and homosexual behavior is still illegal in many states. Laws have to be obeyed within reason, but nothing is set in stone or inherently right or just because its written in a law book. Billboards are not illegal, and I wouldn't complain about a "legalize marijuana" billboard either. You can't change hearts and minds without first raising awareness, and people do not have the right to not be offended by a message. Some may also choose to travel to another state if they are able.

And before being selfish and saying, "well that text sign bummed me out this morning, boooo", consider weighing that against someone truly writing in pain every day waiting to die. I'd prefer being greeted by rainbows, blueberry pancakes, and fluffy kittens every day too, but I wouldn't feel right trying to brush anything unpleasant under the carpet so I don't have to think about it.
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post #12 of 12
7/12/11 at 3:15pm
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Originally Posted by Ducman69 View Post
Laws are just rules written by people and can be changed at any time. Slavery was once legal in all states, it was once illegal for women to vote, and homosexual behavior is still illegal in many states. Laws have to be obeyed within reason, but nothing is set in stone or inherently right or just because its written in a law book. Billboards are not illegal, and I wouldn't complain about a "legalize marijuana" billboard either. You can't change hearts and minds without first raising awareness, and people do not have the right to not be offended by a message. Some may also choose to travel to another state if they are able.

And before being selfish and saying, "well that text sign bummed me out this morning, boooo", consider weighing that against someone truly writing in pain every day waiting to die. I'd prefer being greeted by rainbows, blueberry pancakes, and fluffy kittens every day too, but I wouldn't feel right trying to brush anything unpleasant under the carpet so I don't have to think about it.
Haven't looked into this organization, have you? They have no intention of changing any laws, they do not lobby, they do not petition; they readily admit they have no plans to try to change anything...they simply break the law. The pride themselves in accepting people that would be unqualified in the places that it is legal. They are, in fact, an outlaw operation.

So you're saying that if, say, and english only law was passed in the US, people could ignore it, because it's simply a law written in a law book?
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