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Hello, I've read many threads for help with my Buddy but never posted before. This time he seems to have many possible problems and I have no idea where to begin. I'm sorry if this is too long but he has a lot of history for the year and a half that I have had him.

Buddy showed up in my front yard in November of 2009, I'd never seen him in the neighborhood before that day. I was driving my dad to the V.A. hospital for his last set of stints. He showed up every morning on the back porch for breakfast, I fed a feral cat at the time, but Buddy wanted love as much as food. In December I spent 3 weeks away from home caring for my father and helping my mother with his care. When I came home Buddy showed up with a green discharge from his right nose and eye. He was living under the house next door during one of the coldest winters in a long time with a week of freezing temperatures.

Even though I was loosing my home, traveled 200 miles each weekend to care for my father and had no money I couldn't turn my back on this sick boy. I brought him inside in January and he became an indoor only cat. I
got some antibiotic tablets from the feral rescue lady and followed her directions carefully. Unfortunately, they didn't work and I had to take him to the vet the feral rescue used as he was a little cheaper. He gave an exam and said that Buddy was about 5 years old. He gave me a liquid antibiotic, but again it did not kick the infections. Our next step was a large shot of antibiotics and eye ointment that lasted 30 days each. These seemed to do the trick. The vet said he had chronic respiratory infection and would always have it. Buddy seemed to get better though he had a very picky palate, usually going off a food, wet or dry, after a week. Finally found one he would eat, Evo high protein. After the infection was cleared up I took him with me to my parents and found out that he had worms. We got wormers for my parents cats and Buddy and all was better. This is the trip in which my father named my cat after I left him there with them for the week; Buddy hates the car. I subjected him to a couple more trips with me to my parents as I had no one to stay with him at home and he is a "needy" child. He had to have been someone's lap companion as he is miserable when he is alone. All was well with Buddy outside of a horrible habit of biting me when he wanted love and attention or if I stopped loving him up.

In May of 2010 my father passed away and then in June I lost my home. Buddy and I moved into a friends home and have a room upstairs. Buddy developed a raspy or wheezy sound in his chest. As he hates the car I chose a vet closer to home. This vet said that Buddy was at least 9 and he would put him closer to 11. The wheezing was probably an allergy not the respiratory infection and gave directions for an over the counter benadril remedy that would help. I never gave him the benadril as I couldn't stand the thought of drugging him up like that not to mention the risk of falling down the stairs in a semi-sleepy state. He seemed to get over it. The vet also noted that the chip that Buddy had on his right canine would need to be removed at some point, but not this time. We seemed to do well until January when he got stressed out and had a relapse of the URI. It didn't go away but secondary infections didn't seem to pop up too badly until later in February. Another trip to the same office but a different vet and she said that she thought the runny eye and nose where more likely from the tooth that was now a bit loose. She prescribed a liquid antibiotic with hopes that it would work long enough for me to save up the money for an extraction. About this time I remember he was a little wobbly footed on the bed and I thought it was the cushy mattress. I didn't think much of it. In April buddy had his tooth removed and seemed to do alright but the clear nose and eye fluid though not excessive, have not gone away. I am not sure about the date but around this time he snuck outside and I quickly brought him back inside. He jumped out of my arms and landed on a tile floor with wet paws. His legs seemed to go out from under him. I watched him for several days and he seemed to not be injured from the "fall".

About 3 weeks ago I began noticing Buddy was not able to jump all the way up on the bed, his hind legs missing the mark by about 3 inches. About a week and a half ago I changed the height of the bed and put a chair next to it and this seemed to help him. I figured it was probably arthritis. About a week ago I began noticing Buddy was slightly wobbly on his back legs on the floor not just on the bed. This seems to have slowly progressed this last week to his hind legs looking like the "knees" are week. They look almost like they may give out on him but they don't. During this week I have noticed that has lost weight. He eats and drinks about his usual amount maybe a little less food but other wise he seems hungry as normal. About two months ago I switched from Evo, California Natural and Organix wet foods to Tiki Cat because of the contents. Buddy likes it and he has begun eating tuna. He uses the litter box and buries his business.

Buddy seems to have feeling in his feet and tail and doesn't seem to be in any pain when I check his body and extremities.

As I am on an extremely fixed budget I am worried about having unecesary tests and procedures done at the vets. I am a bit leary about trusting the vet we have but I don't have a lot of reason to distrust them either as well as the fact that Buddy doesn't like the car. I do want to take him to the vet but can't until next week when I get paid.

Does anyone have any ideas about what this might be, or have any of you experienced this before? Any suggestions about what I should have the vet look for and what may be useful for them to know?

I feel so badly watching him and feel like I am such a poor mom that I can't afford to take him now. Thank you for any help you can offer.
 

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Welcome to TCS.

Has Buddy ever had any bloodwork? That is the best advice I can give you. You need to start where the answers may be. Has be been tested for FIV and FLV? With FIV infections are difficult to manage.

Back legs could be diabetes connected. Have him tested for that too. Diabetes gone untreated is not a good thing. Especially if the legs become involved. Watch for increased water and weight loss.

So you see, until you have a full panel of bloods done, it will be hard to know what you are dealing with. He is neutered, right?

Many vets accept Care Credit. You can apply online, over the phone or right at the participating vets office. It can be used the day you get it. I applied at the vets office and used it that same day. It has enabled me to take better care of my guys. Yes, you have to pay it back, but usually get a few months to do so.

So, knowledge is power. Have the bloods done and start there. None of my kitties like the car, but, unfortunately it is for their own good to get to the vets.

Seeing that he has problems with his legs, I would get to the vets asap.

I have a cat, Buddy, who like your guy just showed up at my door. I know someone else will come along with more info.
 

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Is Buddy very overweight?

Do you notice a lot of pee in the litterbox, compared to poop? That is, is the bottom of the litter really wet?

Does Buddy seem to be at the water bowl all the time?

Those would be some signs of diabetes.

Buddy may just be getting old, like many of us. Cats slow down, just like people, and they get arthritis, etc.

Something you might try is adding some l-lysine to Buddy's food. If he eats soft food, you can put it in that and he should eat it just fine; it doesn't seem to affect the taste of food. You can get a pretty-good-sized bottle of 500 mg lysine tablets at WalMart for not much money. I've seen lysine help with long-term respiritory and eye infections, many of which are feline herpes related.

I've been in your shoes. When we found our first cat, we were walking to the grocery store (our car was in the shop) with just the money we had dug out of the couch, where we bought milk and eggs. Snoopy's first meal with us was scrambled eggs!
 
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Thanks for the welcome farlyv.

Yes he had blood work when he went to the first Dr. for the green eyes and nose. I believe the results were negative for FIV and FLV. Or else I donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t think I would have taken up to my parents and exposed their cats. Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]ll check my papers to see if they gave me results. I donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t think they did. When he had his tooth extracted they did blood work to see if he could tolerate the procedure and drugs.

I didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t think diabetes because he wasnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t really drinking tons of water, I know someone who said her cat would drink anything in sight including beer, buddy isnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t doing that at all. That being said I didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t sleep much last night trying to keep an eye on his up and down off the bed and it seems he peed 2 or 3 times last night. More than I thought he would be doing. Not a lot of liquid intake but some hunger and dry and wet food consumption. I will be trying some chicken water from a boiled chicken breast from yesterday, no spices or salt added, and see if he is interested. Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]m worried about dehydration this morning. Probably over worrying.

My sister is blessed with two dachshunds that have pancreas issues and she has been turned down for the Care Credit. I fear that with the foreclosure and lack of income I too will be turned down. I will look into it though.

I did look up a vet that is 25 min away that is a cat only vet and wonder if that is a good way to go. I was trying to think about why I donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t feel good about the current vet and have narrowed it down to dirty office, one vet says respiratory infection and one says not the problem, and a really snotty head receptionist who made it a point of talking about owners in front of other patients owners and complaining about a homeless man who asked about free care for his sick animals. I realize she isnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t the doctor but she is still is a part of the practice and I feel sometimes like the homeless man must have.

As far as his weight mrblanche, Buddy has never looked overweight. The vet said he was a big cat cat 14 lbs but not over weight just big. When I first brought him in he was too skinny. He is now showing more of his ribs and waist than is usual for him. He eats a 6 oz can of Tiki Cat a day and a couple of ounces of dry food. Since I have had him he has always been a free feeder and has never over eaten. I will look into the L-Lysine.

When he first began showing signs of the wobbly legs I thought it was arthritis but the weakness has just showed up practically over night and so I donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t think it is simply old age. He had lumbar, hip and pelvic bones out of alignment that my chiropractor adjusted a few days ago. She said he was really out of place. He immediately began walking more smoothly and fluidly but the weakness has not subsided. She felt he may have some muscle atrophy.

I have since I have owned Buddy tried to make sure he was fed good wet and dry food and clean filtered water each day. He has wheat pellet and fiber litter to help keep dust to a minimum for his respiratory system. It seems just when he is over some issue for a month or so something new pops up. I love him and feel he found me just when I needed some companionship because I was living alone with no TV, radio or friends around when my dad was dying. Buddy was a great comfort. I eat peanut butter and jelly so he can have good food sometimes.

Any ideas about blood clots? His feet are warm and he has sensation in both feet and tail.

Thanks to you both for your responses.
 

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As I am on an extremely fixed budget I am worried about having unecesary tests and procedures done at the vets.
Understandable. One solution would be a partial chemistry profile (they can pick and choose the values they test) where they could check the following if you handed this list to your vet
calcium
phosphorus
glucose
BUN
creatinine
ALT
sodium
potassium
And instead of a complete CBC they would just look at
WBC
RBC

The results of these tests would be enough to go by for starters and your vet could recommend follow up tests if any of the values showed a serious reason for concern.

Checking for arthritis might require an X-ray, I'm not sure how much your vet could tell just from the physical exam.
But anyway, if there is reason to believe Buddy has arthritis, putting him on Cosequin might be worth a try.
Adding some l-lysine as mrblanche has suggested would also be a very good idea.

I don't think what you're seeing has anything to do with blood clots.
 

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You say you switched to Tiki Cat - did the issue with his legs start before or after that? My understanding is that Tiki Cat is heavy on fish, which can cause multiple issues including metal and other toxin overloads, as well as thiamine deficiency. Thiamine deficiency can cause both muscle weakness and wobbly walking.

<<<Hugs>>> and many vibes to you and Buddy! I hope you are able to get him to the vet for a solid (and easy-to-fix) diagnosis soon!

Speaking of vets, I would try the cat hospital. All else being equal, at least your poor little guy won't have to deal with any dogs or dog scent in the waiting area. At best, they'll be able to fix Buddy up right away. I use a cat-only clinic, myself.

Best regards!

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Good evening everyone,

Buddy has been depressed today, his water intake has gone down a bit but he is still drinking if I give him the chicken broth. He has eaten half a can of Tiki Cat chicken and egg. I gave him the other half tonight Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]m sure heâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]ll eat a bit more.

FarleyV, yes, his previous owner(s) neutered him.

Violet I am glad you donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t think it is a clot, I didnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t think so but I wasnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t sure what not to think. Thank you for the list of tests, I also went on line and got a complete list of blood tests and their meanings and normal range results. Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]ll take that with me to the vet as well tomorrow. Hoping the cat only vet will get us in.

Auntie Crazy, the unsure footedness began in April though it really was minimal, and I only noticed it on the head of the bed so I thought it was the mattress and pillows. Now that I think about it, he began getting the Tiki Cat sometime in May and only a can or two to see how he did with it AND only the chicken types as he had never liked fish products before. I bought a can of chicken with tuna as a fluke and he seemed to enjoy it. It probably wasnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t until the middle of May that I began feeding him Tiki Cat predominantly and that was gradually mostly the fish kind as he loved it so much. So I am guessing that he has been mostly fish for approximately 5 to 7 weeks. Buddy started having difficulty making it all the way up on the bed (which was on a pedestal and high) about 4 or 5 weeks ago and that was what I thought was the beginning of arthritis. Therefore, it would not be unreasonable for deficiency or overloads to become present in that time.

How horrible to think that I was feeding him a food because I thought that the lack of unnecessary ingredients and grain was better for him and that this may be what is what caused this situation. If feel terrible!

Thank you all for the vibes and good wishes it really helps knowing there are people who can care so much for a little guy they donâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t know. It is also comforting and helpful to be able to get feedback and ideas to help put together this “puzzleâ€.

If anyone has any other ideas please let me know I keep looking up stuff and hope that it all helps the vet figure it all out so Buddy can be O.K...Thanks again!

If someone can tell me how to post a picture I'll do so...
 

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Please keep us posted on our friend Buddy. He has a lot of people out here sending good thoughts your way.

If you scroll down the reply page to "manage attachments" and click on there, you should be able to get into your pictures and attach one. I just learned myself and it was easy.
 
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Morning everyone,

Buddy slept well last night, so well I couldn't because I kept wondering if I was going to find a cold baby next to me.

He has an appointment at 10:30 am West Coast time and I am not looking forward to 25 min in the car with a freaked out cat, but I am glad to be going to a cat only vet.I'll fill you in when we get home and settled. I sure pray that it is only a deficiency that is fixable.

Thank you everybody and Happy Birthday to MrBlanche.

Janice and Buddy

Oh, FarleyV, I don't seem to be able to find a "manage attachment" to click on. I maybe in the wrong place...?
 

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When you start to type your replys, just scroll down to "additional options" just below where you hit "submit reply". There you will see just below that "manage attachments". click there.

Then you will see "upload file from your computer". Hit "browse" and your pics should come up, assuming you have your pics stored in your computer. Find a pic you want and click on it. It will then say "load" I think and it should come up on your post. Hit "preview post" to be sure.

I hope that helps. Will be interested to hear what the vet says!!
 
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FarleyV,
All I have under the submit reply is the no flaming and negative site feedback, spam,etc. I don't see a upload file from computer option. Maybe I'm too new to have that ability.
 

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Oh maybe you are, but I don't know for sure.

Why don't you go to the TCS Support forum and ask. i was searching to find the rules, but couldn't. I know they are there....somewhere!

We sure would like to see Buddy!
 
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I don't know what to feel...

Buddy hated the car ride but was very much more at ease in a cat only vet office, even wanted to explore. And it was much cleaner than the old vet too!

The owner was the Dr. who saw us, he took a urine sample by cystocentesis, and found no sugar in the urine...it's not diabetes. He didn't believe it was thiamine deficiency as he said that the neck and cervical spine are usually affected and he didn't see that in Buddy.

He didn't do any blood work, but wanted to do a 2 view x-ray panel because after checking for reflex of his legs and knees and examining the legs and hips he felt that it was spinal related. He left and came back with and estimate of what he would like to do and costs. This is when I told him that although I didn't want money to be a factor I was unemployed and money does factor into it but I don't want to just put him to sleep because he has an issue of some sort. The doctor eliminated a couple of tests (thyroid and fiv/flv) and said he would do only one x-ray shot if I wanted. It was only 20 dollars difference and I wanted the extra shot so that's what he did. Turns out he took 3 views (charged for 2) and what he thinks the problem is either a sacral/lumbar problem or a tumor. He didn't suggest an MRI but I do know that that is how you check for those and I know they are expensive.

Long and short of it is it's a wait and see game...still. He said that if it was a tumor I would see continued deterioration of his walking and control of hind legs in the next couple of weeks and that Buddy would most likely show signs of he progression..(maybe pain? he doesn't appear to be in any right now) And if not then it is probably a degenerative or slipped disc and I could bring him back for the thyroid test. I asked about chondroitin if that would help if it is the spine and not a tumor and he said it couldn't hurt so I bought a bottle of cosequin for cats to sprinkle on his wet food.

I feel a bit numb, either he has cancer or a messed up spine that won't repair. Asked for a copy of the x-ray views, bu I'm not sure why yet...My chiropractor adjusted the spot on Buddy's spine where the problem is so maybe I'll show them to her and see what she thinks. All I can do is cry...where do I go from here?
 

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I wish I had some magic words to say to make things better for you and Buddy. Just listen to what all these great people here are telling you. They sure know their stuff. I will be keeping you and Buddy in my prayers. Just try and hang in there. I know that waiting is hard but know that you have lots of people thinking of you guys and doing lots of praying and sending good thoughts. Take care you two..
 

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Hi, have you ruled out inflammation? I wonder if a shot of Depo-medrol would help - or mix of a short and a long acting steroid... IMHO, worth a shot discussing since you are waiting for these two weeks anyways
I am so sorry you both are going through this
 

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Oh goodness, I know how awful this waiting must be.....it's like being in limbo. You go to the vet and expect to have answers and then nothing gets resolved. ugh.

You guys are in my prayers and thoughts. I wish I had more experience with this. I wish I could be of more help. I do have a thyroid kitty, my second.

Watch his body language. Is he washing? A kitty that feels poorly won't be as fussy with cleaning. Whenever I am worried about one of my gang, I watch what they are doing. When they start to wash, I always feel better.

As usual, continued for you and our new buddy, Buddy.
 

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Caramelblond, - with apologies - I have to say this. I'm extremely disappointed that this vet didn't do any blood work.
For this and other reasons it is now vitally important for you to read up on things and start helping your kitty in earnest without delay. When you read the relevant information you'll see that you can't afford the wait and see approach.

To keep this short, please go to Google and type in these two searches with the exact words
1. sacral/lumbar problems in cats
2. cat has weak hind legs

You will find a tremendous amount of important information that you desperately need.

Also, Carolina has written a very important post for you. I urge you to follow up on it.
 
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Hi everyone,

just a quick line to tell you that I got some information about buddy today that has me relieved and I Will write more about buddy tomorrow but looks like it's not cancer and not a disc disease but subluxation of several parts of his lumbar skeletal frame.

the dork probably flew down the stairs and had a bad landing. I have been without sleep for 2 nights now and i am ready to drop. (boyfriend had a serious accident last night and shattered his spleen)

God bless each of you for your vibes, good wishes and advice, it goes without saying that you all have helped so much and I can't thank each of you enough

good night,
Janice and Buddy
 

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Originally Posted by Caramelblond

Hi everyone,

just a quick line to tell you that I got some information about buddy today that has me relieved and I Will write more about buddy tomorrow but looks like it's not cancer and not a disc disease but subluxation of several parts of his lumbar skeletal frame.

the dork probably flew down the stairs and had a bad landing. I have been without sleep for 2 nights now and i am ready to drop. (boyfriend had a serious accident last night and shattered his spleen)

God bless each of you for your vibes, good wishes and advice, it goes without saying that you all have helped so much and I can't thank each of you enough

good night,
Janice and Buddy
Glad to hear he is ok! That's why I was thinking about inflammation issues... Sometimes we freak out and think about the worst.... and isn't.... Hope he gets better with the adjustments!
 
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Hello everyone,

I'm sorry it has taken me so long to get back. My boyfriend is in the hospital, according to the DR. he should have died because of his injuries. I have been busy between him and Buddy. Seems both of my hairy men are in bad shape.

Buddy is hanging in there. After taking the x-rays from the vet to my chiropractor she was able to determine that he does not have a tumor. She didn't see anything to indicate that he had one. She said all his vertibrate look good and the spacing between is good as well. She did find that his hips and sacral/lumbar areas had several bones that were not aligned, so she really got in there and moved him around. He doesn't like it but doesn't try to get away, he knows she's helping him. I could really see a difference immediately after the adjustment. His gait and spinal movements looked much more smooth and strong. He is less depressed and is even feeling a little "cocky". The day after he was even looking to jump off of and onto the bed without the chair, which I wouldn't let him do. I'm sure he does things when I'm not looking. He seems to be better and at the same time not better. That is, he appears to have a little more stability when he is walking, less wobbly, but when he is just getting up from laying down for a while he seems really weak and even falls over in back.

He has an appointment on Friday for another adjustment and I keep hoping that his muscles get stronger. My biggest concern is the weight loss, it doesn't look like he is loosing any more weight just not putting any back on. Buddy's appetite is not as big as usual, he is eating, just not as much, yet still having bm's and urinating. I baked a chicken breast and shredded it up tonight. He ate a couple of tablespoons worth and drank up the broth. I'll be buying some different wet food, stuff I don't usually buy for him, in hopes that he feels like eating the "junk" food. I was thinking thyroid issues but I"m not sure, he isn't over eating or drinking, not wired, and over urinating or bm's. His bm's are a little soft but not watery. Any ideas?

That's all I can think of for now, Thank you all again for the support and help. I am grateful to and for you all. Oh and I think I figured out how to attach some pictures, let me know if I was successful.

Janice and Buddy



 
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