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post #61 of 205
6/19/11 at 4:08pm
http://health.discovery.com/tv-schedules/weekly.html


The channel's name has changed, apparently.
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post #62 of 205
6/21/11 at 11:02am
So did Baez really say to the prosecution (I'm paraphrasing)
I know you gave me the hard drive, but I didn't know what data you were going to use.
LOL!
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post #63 of 205
6/21/11 at 10:22pm
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Originally Posted by MargeCat View Post
http://health.discovery.com/tv-schedules/weekly.html


The channel's name has changed, apparently.
Is it kind of bad of me to say you've made my day? She is so fascinating! I certainly couldn't do what she does, but I love watching her talk about it. She really has a passion for speaking for those who can no longer speak for themselves. I admire her a lot.
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post #64 of 205
6/22/11 at 9:28am
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Looks like a woman incarcerated in a cell next to Casey Anthony for five days lost her toddler who drowned in their pool, and was found by the grandfather. Wow, that's a familiar story.

Why doesn't she just tell what happened already! Casey Anthony is the only person who would benefit from her daughter's death. She's also the only person who was "caring" for the little girl, and the last to see her alive. All roads of evidence lead to Casey Anthony.

She won't get the death penalty, though, mothers who kill their kids almost never do.
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post #65 of 205
6/22/11 at 3:04pm
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Is it kind of bad of me to say you've made my day? She is so fascinating! I certainly couldn't do what she does, but I love watching her talk about it. She really has a passion for speaking for those who can no longer speak for themselves. I admire her a lot.
Not at all! I admire Dr. G. myself. I also enjoy watching forensics and true crime shows (Discovery I.D. Channel is great. Hubby says, "Are you watching the Dead People Channel AGAIN?!?). Thank God we have people who have an interest in this--as you said, they can speak for the dead, and help to obtain justice for the dead who met their end as crime victims.
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post #66 of 205
6/22/11 at 11:05pm
Even her parents think she's guilty-

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/22...cent/?iref=NS1

What a mess this is. I wanted to hold back my own opinion until I heard more, but as the trial progresses... I do think she murdered that sweet little girl. I just hope justice is served as it should be in this lifetime, because it certainly will be afterwards.
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post #67 of 205
6/23/11 at 1:51pm
A few shockers have come into view. First of all the attorney for the parents and brother of Casey said that they said they don't believe their daughter is innocent. Also today Casey's Mom said that it was she who made a search for chloroform (sp) and a couple of other searches. She also said the stain in the trunk of the car was there when they bought the car. Huge points for the defense. Who the heck is lying here, what a screwed up family.
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post #68 of 205
6/23/11 at 6:33pm
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Originally Posted by LaRussa View Post
lso today Casey's Mom said that it was she who made a search for chloroform (sp) and a couple of other searches. She also said the stain in the trunk of the car was there when they bought the car. Huge points for the defense. Who the heck is lying here, what a screwed up family.
That didn't come to light in all of the months before now?!

Based on the fact that she is just saying this now, 3 years later, the Mom is definitely lying so that her daughter doesn't get the death penalty. She's already stated that she doesn't think her daughter is innocent, but she doesn't want her to get the death penalty either.
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post #69 of 205
6/24/11 at 4:44am
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That didn't come to light in all of the months before now?!

Based on the fact that she is just saying this now, 3 years later, the Mom is definitely lying so that her daughter doesn't get the death penalty. She's already stated that she doesn't think her daughter is innocent, but she doesn't want her to get the death penalty either.
I'm glad you posted this--I was thinking about it a few minutes ago. I wasn't into the case in the beginning, so I personally didn't know about Cindy Anthony's supposed chloroform search from 3 years ago, so I heard it for the first time yesterday, while listening to the trial. I thought she was lying, too:

1. If she was searching for common household chemicals (because of hearing that hand sanitizer was unsafe around kids--duh!), why chloroform? Is that a common chemical?

2. She's a nurse. You'd think she'd know how to spell chlorophil and chloroform (she said she also was searching for chlorophil, which is what makes plants green).

3. How does the defense explain the proven presence of chloroform in Caylee's bones????
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post #70 of 205
6/24/11 at 10:02am
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I think Cindy is lying to try to keep her daughter alive. Evidently, only seconds after the search for chloroform was done, the user switched to facebook (84 times). Cindy didn't have a facebook account until a few months later. Also, it was done at ~1:30 in the afternoon, so it's easy enough to look up if Cindy was at home or work that day.

She's never admitted to doing the chloroform search until today.

Also, the computer's history was NEVER cleared for years, except for the chloroform and neck-breaking searches. And who searched for internal bleeding, chest trauma, head injury, etc.?
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post #71 of 205
6/24/11 at 10:49am
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Cindy said "she believed her dogs may have been eating bamboo leaves containing chlorophyll."

I'm having trouble envisioning the dogs running out to the bamboo plants and munching on the leaves together! And wouldn't you look up "bamboo leaves" to check for toxicity for dogs? Looking up "chlorophyll" which is in all green plants, would be a useless gesture.

Is lying under oath okay if it's to try to save your daughter's life?
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post #72 of 205
6/24/11 at 1:42pm
I think the whole family is now lying to protect Casey as some of you agree with. My problem is still why didn't they call 911 if Calee did indeed drown in the pool accidentally and why was she found close by in a wooded area. WHO put her there and what about those 31 days that Casey lied about. Did that ever really happen or did all of them know where Calee was the whole time. This is one hell of a cover-up and is going completely bad. The whole family should be locked up except for Lee, he seems not to have much to do with his sick family.
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post #73 of 205
6/25/11 at 7:37am
LaRussa, I'm starting to agree with you regarding the family, but not with the parents being odd--I think there's something about Lee we don't know about. Yesterday's testimony was weird. Why would the family exclude him so rudely from Casey's pregnancy experience? DNA has proven that he's not the dad, nor is George Anthony, but I wonder if he did try to come on to Casey at some point (up until yesterday, I thought he hadn't). But then again, if he had, why would they allow him to live in the same house? Why could Casey allow it, especially with a baby on the way? Did you hear the part, when asked about discovering her pregnancy, and discussing it with his Mom, he said,"Well, that's not mine! [Laugh]" Maybe it's just a guy thing to brush a pregnancy off that way, but your SISTER'S pregnancy? That's kind of weird to say, even in jest.

The new shocker: court has been recessed until Monday, as of about 1 hour ago. I wonder if they're going to plea bargain for a lesser charge? I've been wondering that for about 2 weeks now. If she's smart, she will.
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post #74 of 205
6/25/11 at 7:50am
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The new shocker: court has been recessed until Monday, as of about 1 hour ago. I wonder if they're going to plea bargain for a lesser charge? I've been wondering that for about 2 weeks now. If she's smart, she will.
I like that theory better than the one I was guessing.

There was a witness who works for the department of defense. He risked losing his job if he testified. Baez accused Ashton of calling his boss. Ashton claims the boss saw him on tv. I hope Ashton was telling the truth. Otherwise he could be guilty of prosecution misconduct. If so... possible mistrial.
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post #75 of 205
6/25/11 at 11:14am
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I like that theory better than the one I was guessing.

There was a witness who works for the department of defense. He risked losing his job if he testified. Baez accused Ashton of calling his boss. Ashton claims the boss saw him on tv. I hope Ashton was telling the truth. Otherwise he could be guilty of prosecution misconduct. If so... possible mistrial.
It would be terrible to have to go thru another trial from scratch but I would rather see a mistrial than have a hung jury cuz then she will walk and Calee's justice will never come to fruition. Someone has to pay for her death. Maybe Casey will plea bargain but I hope it will be up to the jury and they come back with a guility charge for at least manslaughter, I want to see her serve many years behind bars.
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post #76 of 205
6/26/11 at 7:40am
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Originally Posted by LaRussa View Post
It would be terrible to have to go thru another trial from scratch but I would rather see a mistrial than have a hung jury cuz then she will walk and Calee's justice will never come to fruition. Someone has to pay for her death. Maybe Casey will plea bargain but I hope it will be up to the jury and they come back with a guility charge for at least manslaughter, I want to see her serve many years behind bars.
I'm thinking manslaughter too.
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post #77 of 205
6/28/11 at 4:36pm
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I'm thinking manslaughter too.
No way!

She is guilty as sin. I think she will be found guilty of either first degree murder or felony murder. I'm hoping that she will get to spend the rest of her years behind bars. I've followed this case closely since the beginning and am spending a lot of time on a crime forum where the discussion is continuous! That's why I haven't been here in awhile! Once the trial is over, I'll be back!
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post #78 of 205
6/29/11 at 5:18am
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No way!

She is guilty as sin. I think she will be found guilty of either first degree murder or felony murder. I'm hoping that she will get to spend the rest of her years behind bars. I've followed this case closely since the beginning and am spending a lot of time on a crime forum where the discussion is continuous! That's why I haven't been here in awhile! Once the trial is over, I'll be back!
Whether or not she is guilty of murder, I don't think she will be convicted of it.
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post #79 of 205
6/29/11 at 11:51am
I do believe Casey is guilty also, of what I don't know for sure. Whether she actually did the murder or not, I'm not as sure as I used to be. Her whole family are liars so it's so hard to know who is telling the truth. Cindy Anthony is definitely a liar as we heard when she was trying to cover up for her daughter. As I've said before I do hope someone pays for this baby's death.
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post #80 of 205
6/29/11 at 11:52am
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Whether or not she is guilty of murder, I don't think she will be convicted of it.
Unfortunately I think you are correct.
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post #81 of 205
6/30/11 at 6:58pm
The defense rested without having Casey testify. It probably was wise given the disaster of lies during the investigations.

But looking at the prosecution's case, I don't think it is very strong at all. No clear cause of death, weak forensics to prove that Caylee's body was in the trunk and nothing to prove that Casey had custody of the car during the days immediately after Caylee went missing.
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post #82 of 205
6/30/11 at 7:10pm
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But looking at the prosecution's case, I don't think it is very strong at all. No clear cause of death, weak forensics to prove that Caylee's body was in the trunk and nothing to prove that Casey had custody of the car during the days immediately after Caylee went missing.

I am surprised many people just fail to accept this.. There is very little concrete evidence against her. Like with the smell of her car, what something smelled like can only be an opinion of the person testifying, not anything concrete at all..
The google searches for choloroform don't even close to prove she killed Caylee, and that's if they can prove it was Casey who made the search in the first place.
All the evidence against her seems really, really weak. Even though the whole story makes no sense and we just don't know what happened, there is still nothing there to prove without a doubt that she killed Caylee.
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post #83 of 205
7/1/11 at 4:45am
As this trial winds down, I'd like to take a moment to remember little Caylee:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS648...eature=related

She was dead fewer than 24 hours after this video was filmed.


What a precious little angel. When the prosecution does their summation tomorrow, I hope they play that video.

Caylee, may God find justice for you in the next 2 days.
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post #84 of 205
7/1/11 at 7:10am
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I am surprised many people just fail to accept this.. There is very little concrete evidence against her. Like with the smell of her car, what something smelled like can only be an opinion of the person testifying, not anything concrete at all..
The google searches for choloroform don't even close to prove she killed Caylee, and that's if they can prove it was Casey who made the search in the first place.
All the evidence against her seems really, really weak. Even though the whole story makes no sense and we just don't know what happened, there is still nothing there to prove without a doubt that she killed Caylee.
This b---- may not have actually murdered her baby but she was very much involved and was the probable cause of Caylee's death. I hope she is found guilty of at least manslaughter and spends most of her life behind bars. Most people do hate her as the talking heads agree, she is just a hateful looking person and that is what I see sitting there with her stone face. I do believe just by her personality that she could do all those horrible things the prosecution says and hopefully proved she did, I have no doubt of that and I pray she pays for all of it.
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post #85 of 205
7/1/11 at 9:59am
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...But looking at the prosecution's case, I don't think it is very strong at all. No clear cause of death, weak forensics to prove that Caylee's body was in the trunk and nothing to prove that Casey had custody of the car during the days immediately after Caylee went missing.
All true, but they do have the facts:
a child is dead, either foul play or made to look like it
the mother is the only one with a motive
she was the primary caretaker at that time
she the last person to see the child alive
she's lied about everything

All fingers point to Casey. But maybe there has to be a smoking gun.



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...Like with the smell of her car, what something smelled like can only be an opinion of the person testifying, not anything concrete at all...
Maybe it seems that way if you've never smelled it, but anyone who has smelled human decomposition knows it's an very distinct, very strong and unforgettable smell, and this fact was brought out in court. Ask anybody who has survived a natural disaster.
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post #86 of 205
7/1/11 at 11:38am
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she was the primary caretaker at that time
This is basically the only thing that in my eyes holds her accountable for what happened to Caylee. If Caylee had died by an accident, or went missing, it was still Casey's responsibility to make sure the authorities know of it, and she simply didn't do that. So, I am not sure what that makes her guilty of, neglect? child abuse? In any case it can't be murder. Just having a motive and proven yourself to be a liar doesn't make you guilty of murder. While I agree that all fingers point to her, maybe that's only because of the lack of other hard evidence? We simply don't know what happened to Caylee. Casey most likely knows, but I think it's possible she was too wasted and doesn't remember if she or anyone else did something to hurt the child.
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post #87 of 205
7/2/11 at 7:52am
There isn't enough evidence to convict her of murder. If the jury applies common sense along with the circumstantial evidence, she will be convicted of manslaughter, IMO.
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post #88 of 205
7/2/11 at 11:15am
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There isn't enough evidence to convict her of murder. If the jury applies common sense along with the circumstantial evidence, she will be convicted of manslaughter, IMO.
Agreed. I can't wait to see the closing statements tomorrow. I hope the prosecution gets his point across and the jury convicts. I know she won't get murder 1 but I hope she gets at least manslaughter and she rots in jail like she had her daughter rotting when she was out partying. This girl has many people hating her and I can see why. She is a stone cold b----. She is not likable at all and that's what people see. She certainly looks like she would do something like this. Keep her locked up for a very long time.
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post #89 of 205
7/2/11 at 10:13pm
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How did she expect anyone to believe that her father, a former police officer, would cover up an accidental death and make it look like a homicide? There's no way - that doesn't make any sense, he would automatically call it in, that would be second nature. And what could he gain by making his granddaughter's death look like murder? Ridiculous. Seems everybody but Casey is responsible for her child's death.
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post #90 of 205
7/3/11 at 9:29am
I just watched the prosecution's closing arguments and I think Ashton could have been a bit better. As some said, he should have taken more time. Jose on the other hand will take longer as he said and right now they are at lunch. The defense will continue his arguments after lunch. Then the prosecution can come back again for their rebuttal. I have not missed a minute of it. It's a rainy day here anyway so it's best to stay indoors. Russ and I are both very interested in this case.
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