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post #181 of 205
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Originally Posted by Ducman69 View Post
Our legal system merely requires the scientifically selected and weeded jurors that remain after the specialists are done with them to agree on a verdict of guilty. Their job is to think for themselves, consider the evidence provided, connect the dots, and use their judgement to determine whether or not the party in question is innocent or guilty of the charges. They failed to do so in spite of overwhelming evidence, just like in the OJ Simpson case.
I disagree. There was not overwhelming evidence in this case and it was based on unproven science. There was nothing to prove how Caylee died or where. For all we know, someone else may have killed the child accidentally and Casey may have known about it.

All we really were left with was a child missing and found dead while the mother behaved inappropriately according to our society's standards.
post #182 of 205
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Originally Posted by katachtig View Post
All we really were left with was a child missing and found dead while the mother behaved inappropriately according to our society's standards.
You're absolutely right.

There was no other evidence, EXCEPT for the forensics showing the death was a homicide, her blatant lies, the heart stickers, the matching duct tape and trash bags from what she had at home, the hair in the trunk, the 400 chemicals in the trunk consistent with human decomposition, her computer cache search of "how to make chloroform" and "neck breaking" and the chloroform found in the trunk or the unreported "lost" vehicle, the missing Winnie the Pooh blanket from the room that was found with the body, the diary, the failure to report her child missing, the hot body contest four days after her daughters disappearance, the questionable testimony of her parents, the "good life" tattoo, and more.

But definitely, if you disregard all circumstantial evidence, then there is reasonable doubt that she was only somewhat involved in her daughter's death.
post #183 of 205
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Originally Posted by Ducman69 View Post
You're absolutely right.

There was no other evidence, EXCEPT for the forensics showing the death was a homicide, her blatant lies, the heart stickers, the matching duct tape and trash bags from what she had at home, the hair in the trunk, the 400 chemicals in the trunk consistent with human decomposition, her computer cache search of "how to make chloroform" and "neck breaking" and the chloroform found in the trunk, the missing Winnie the Pooh blanket from the room that was found with the body, the diary, the failure to report her child missing, the hot body contest four days after her daughters disappearance, the questionable testimony of her parents, the "good life" tattoo, unreported "lost" vehicle, and more.

But definitely, if you disregard all circumstantial evidence, then there is reasonable doubt that she was only somewhat involved in her daughter's death.
But the process to prove the 400 chemicals is new and doesn't have the science yet to make it reliable.

The hair in the trunk was tested for mitochondrial DNA which could mean it could have been any member of her mother's family.

Kids travel with blankets all of the time. Of course, it is possible that whoever removed Caylee from the home, removed the blanket. We just don't know who.

The stickers were from the home, but the phantom sticker imprint from the duct tape was only seen by one technician and no one else.

All that is left is the searches which Cindy Anthony put into doubt as to who did them and Casey's behavior.
post #184 of 205
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Originally Posted by katachtig View Post
All that is left is the searches which Cindy Anthony put into doubt as to who did them and Casey's behavior.
You know, don't you, that Cindy Anthony was proved to be lying about those searches and could be charged with perjury, but that rarely happens to lying family members.

Casey removed the body from wherever it was. There is no other credible explanation.
post #185 of 205
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
You know, don't you, that Cindy Anthony was proved to be lying about those searches and could be charged with perjury, but that rarely happens to lying family members.

Casey removed the body from wherever it was. There is no other credible explanation.
But is that something the jury was allowed to consider?
post #186 of 205
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Originally Posted by katachtig View Post
But is that something the jury was allowed to consider?
Yes, they heard Cindy's testimony, and they heard her boss's testimony that work and computer records showed she was at work when those searches were done on the home computer.
post #187 of 205
It now looks like data presented for the chloroform search was faulty. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43807133...ew_york_times/
post #188 of 205
You may find that a lot of "faulty" information will suddenly appear. That jury did an awesome job on this case - they should be applauded for what they did under the pressure of all the emotional nay-sayers in this case.
post #189 of 205
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Originally Posted by katachtig View Post
It now looks like data presented for the chloroform search was faulty. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43807133...ew_york_times/
Saw that - can we say prosecutorial misconduct?
post #190 of 205
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
Saw that - can we say prosecutorial misconduct?
Unless the prosecution has an excellent "rebuttal" I have to agree!
post #191 of 205
Once or 84 times...it was still Casey.

I was disturbed that the jurors said they were suspicious of George and Lee. But no evidence was presented to give them those doubts. In fact, I would have to say that Lee appears to be the person in the family with the strongest moral compass, and George had every right to be incensed by statements by the defense.

The jurors needed to hear and understand that what lawyers say in court is NOT evidence.
post #192 of 205
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
Once or 84 times...it was still Casey.

I was disturbed that the jurors said they were suspicious of George and Lee. But no evidence was presented to give them those doubts. In fact, I would have to say that Lee appears to be the person in the family with the strongest moral compass, and George had every right to be incensed by statements by the defense.

The jurors needed to hear and understand that what lawyers say in court is NOT evidence.
It bothered me too that the jurors said they were suspicious of George and Lee.

Not only is what lawyers say in court NOT evidence. They are not even obligated to tell the truth.
post #193 of 205
As they were unable to actually establish a cause of death, the subject of the internet searches leaves me wondering "so what?". I think of some of the things I've searched for over the years.
post #194 of 205
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Originally Posted by Skippymjp View Post
I think of some of the things I've searched for over the years.
Oh my - if that were a prime reason to find someone guilty of murder I would likely have been convicted 100 times over!
post #195 of 205
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
Oh my - if that were a prime reason to find someone guilty of murder I would likely have been convicted 100 times over!
Me too.

THERE'S A FEW THINGS I'VE GOT TO GET OFF MY CHEST. No, it isn't hair. But there are things for that.

I'm still bewildered by the actions of supposedly rational people like Vinnie Politan (who I've enjoyed on other cases), and Jane Valez Mitchell. I swear, watching the tapes of Casey leaving the jail, and watching JVM out in the parking lot stirring the pot with the onlookers, just turned me off to any degree of her journalistic credibility.

The way she excitedly gave a blow by blow of how Casey and Jose Baez walked out of the building...step by step. Commenting on their expressions. Then to pointing to any moving vehicle and carry on about whether it's THE ONE with Casey. Childish grandstanding IMO. She could describe a cat leaving a litter box turning it into a spectacular event, worthy of re-runs (no pun) every 2 minutes...and in slow motion.

And the other thing bugging me is that since there is no double jeopardy, could Casey come out and say she did it without repercussion? The question still is how did Caylee die? If it was an accident, Casey had to realize that admitting to it would be better than dancing around a bunch of lies. It's still hard for me to believe from what I've seen of her interaction with Caylee that she could have the mindset to kill her on purpose.

So, I guess that her life here on will carry the stigma of the unsettled truth, which is likely worse than the accident theory.

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post #196 of 205
Slightly OT, but here's a little piece on Headline News and Nancy Grace:
Rutten: The threat of Nancy Grace
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Her own zealousness as an Atlanta prosecutor was such that the appellate courts three times cited her for failing to meet her ethical responsibilities. In 2005, the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals wrote that it agreed with a lower-court magistrate that Grace had " 'played fast and loose' with her ethical duties" as a prosecutor.

Precisely the same can be said of her conduct as a television journalist.

Anyone who had occasion to watch her relentless coverage of the recently completed Casey Anthony murder trial witnessed something quite new to the American news media: a mainstream news organization giving one of its commentators a nightly forum from which to campaign for the conviction of a criminal defendant. It was a campaign that continued after Anthony's acquittal with virtually nonstop on-air abuse of the jurors and defense attorneys.
post #197 of 205
A bit off topic, but I just read that Larry Flynt has offered $500000 to Casey Anthony if she poses naked for Hustler.. Casey says this isn't true, but Flynt claims he has made an offer.
post #198 of 205
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Originally Posted by NorthernGlow View Post
A bit off topic, but I just read that Larry Flynt has offered $500000 to Casey Anthony if she poses naked for Hustler.. Casey says this isn't true, but Flynt claims he has made an offer.
I think most of us have seen the naked truth when it comes to Casey Anthony.
post #199 of 205
The Judge ordered that she return to Florida for her cheque fraud probation.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44118994.../#.TkXMc1vVFCg

In the video she's crying crocodile tears and is all snotty nosed. Yet there wasn't a single tear, only laughter, from her during the trial of her daughters murder!
post #200 of 205
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Originally Posted by cheylink View Post
I think most of us have seen the naked truth when it comes to Casey Anthony.
Now THAT is a good line!
post #201 of 205
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
The Judge ordered that she return to Florida for her cheque fraud probation.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44118994.../#.TkXMc1vVFCg

In the video she's crying crocodile tears and is all snotty nosed. Yet there wasn't a single tear, only laughter, from her during the trial of her daughters murder!
Crying because she's now stuck in the place she wants to be least... poor, poor her. It'll cramp her new lifestyle!
post #202 of 205
Casey Anthony ordered to pay nearly $100,000 in costs
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Judge Belvin Perry ruled that Anthony must reimburse $97,676.98 in investigative costs incurred between July 15, 2008, when Anthony first told detectives that her daughter had been kidnapped by a nanny, and September 29, 2008, when detectives determined Caylee likely was dead rather than missing.
post #203 of 205
As a Florida taxpayer, I agree with the verdict, but I don't think we will see a penny.
post #204 of 205
I imagine she'll be doing interviews at some point, and her fees could be garnished.
post #205 of 205
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
I imagine she'll be doing interviews at some point, and her fees could be garnished.
I kind of doubt she will. She has not accepted any offers yet. Then, again, there's been a lot of surprises. I didn't expect her parents to be on Dr. Phil.
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