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How many cats are too many?

post #1 of 35
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I've been on other forums where people who have more than a few cats are being accused of being hoarders. I've been called a crazy cat lady for having several cats, especially by my husband's family. Since I foster the amount varies but I currently have ten cats. At the most I had 17 at one time when I had two litters of kittens. Our place is not that big but we have two spare bedrooms that have been made into cat rooms so they have a decent amount of space.
I'm wondering what people think is too many cats for one home though? Is ten cats too many? Is 15 or 20 too many or does it depend on the situation? What do you think?
post #2 of 35
I think that the number that is too many depends on the situation. I have heard that a good rule of thumb is 200 sq ft per cat but I don't think that would apply to a litter of small kittens. Even that rule of thumb is just a real general idea. Fostering is a temporary situation that is a better situation than a shelter. If the cats are well cared for including vet care and are given the attention they need and the house is kept reasonably clean than it isn't too many cats. Hoarding is something that is currently on a lot of people's minds because of TV series about it and some people are just being really quick to label a situation as hoarding even when it isn't.
post #3 of 35
I think it definitely depends on the situation. If all of the animals needs are being met and the caretaker is not neglecting themselves in order to provide for their animals, that is the right number of animals for the caretaker.

"Animal hoarding involves keeping larger than usual numbers of animals as pets without having the ability to properly house or care for them, while at the same time denying this inability."
post #4 of 35
On a cat forum, the correct answer is "more than you can properly care for".

For society at large to avoid the "cat person" label, the correct answer is anything over three.
post #5 of 35
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Originally Posted by Denice View Post
I think that the number that is too many depends on the situation. I have heard that a good rule of thumb is 200 sq ft per cat but I don't think that would apply to a litter of small kittens. Even that rule of thumb is just a real general idea. Fostering is a temporary situation that is a better situation than a shelter. If the cats are well cared for including vet care and are given the attention they need and the house is kept reasonably clean than it isn't too many cats. Hoarding is something that is currently on a lot of people's minds because of TV series about it and some people are just being really quick to label a situation as hoarding even when it isn't.
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Originally Posted by aprilyim View Post
I think it definitely depends on the situation. If all of the animals needs are being met and the caretaker is not neglecting themselves in order to provide for their animals, that is the right number of animals for the caretaker.

"Animal hoarding involves keeping larger than usual numbers of animals as pets without having the ability to properly house or care for them, while at the same time denying this inability."

As long as they're being properly taken care of with an adequate amount of space, I don't think having a lot of cats means you're necessarily a hoarder.
post #6 of 35
2 would be too many for me.
post #7 of 35
I think it depends on the person and whats going on-I am stay at home mom to these guys so I feel its a bit different then anyone who works a ft job. I have had a vet over my house to examine a cat who was staying for medical treatment(my friends cat who it would have been a strain for her to medicate the cat due to her life situation at this point with her health and job situation) she saw about 10 of my cats hanging around.

When we got married had 19 cats and 4 were recovering from neuters(2 were 2-3 months 2 were 5-6 months as hectic as it was even my brother made the comment 19 in here-seems alot less, IT DONT SMELL. My brother is known to be to honest.

I guess I should not wander far from TCS or I may be in serious trouble if I say ever 1/4 of what I have!!!
post #8 of 35
personally: 4
post #9 of 35
Cleo and Maggie think 3 is too many (Lola.) Lola also thinks 3 is too many (Cleo & Maggie.) I always say that I'm at my emotional and financial limit with three.
post #10 of 35
I think it all depends on the amount of time you have for them and your financial means so you can properly care for them. A hoarder IMO would be someone that is very sellfish (sp?) Someone who has too many to give them the care they need. You yourself know how much you can handle
post #11 of 35
Geronimo would say any are too many. He's such a jealous thing!

Winchester would let them ALL in if he had his way! He's such a lover-boy!
post #12 of 35
Agree with everyone who said as much as you can properly care for.

The word hoarder is one of those words that gets incorrectly thrown around without people understanding the definition.

Some people never had a life with animals. They'll call you crazy even if you only have one My point being you have to look at who you're talking to..
post #13 of 35
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Originally Posted by Tink80 View Post
Some people never had a life with animals. They'll call you crazy even if you only have one My point being you have to look at who you're talking to..
You're right about that. I have three, and I know I have friends who think that's too many (they're too polite to say so, but I've seen their faces when I say "three"!).
post #14 of 35
When people hear that we have 10 cats, as well as having 2 rooms in which we foster cats, they often insinuate hoarding and NOTHING upsets me more. My cats are cared for better than most children. Do they really think the shelter would ALLOW us to foster if we were hoarders? Not to mention we have numerous people in and out of here all the time who are potential adopters and constantly comment on how well cared for our cats are and how clean our home is.

Bottom line is you have too many when you can no longer provide the proper amount of care for your pets including food, vet care, AND attention.
post #15 of 35
It doesn't matter how many cats a person has, all that matters is if they take good care of their cats.
post #16 of 35
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Originally Posted by My4LLMA View Post
It doesn't matter how many cats a person has, all that matters is if they take good care of their cats.
This topic comes up often - how many is too many? I can guarantee I've had many looks & have heard comments from people calling me a "hoarder". I have 12 permanent indoor cats, plus one foster kitty. I also have 5 outdoor/farm cats.

Honestly - I wouldn't have the time for that many if there weren't other members of my household. I also have three indoors who rarely, if ever, care for me to touch them. In fact one would be happiest if I would quit trying to be her friend!

My cats have had many health issues (just select few), expensive surgeries, etc. I can't say I'd ever have this many again, but my house is clean, their boxes were just scooped, they're all fully vetted....I guess I'd say I'm far from a hoarder (although I will admit I suck at letting fosters get adopted, then again several fosters I had no interest from anyone to adopt for 6+ months).
post #17 of 35
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Originally Posted by Ducman69 View Post
On a cat forum, the correct answer is "more than you can properly care for".

For society at large to avoid the "cat person" label, the correct answer is anything over three.


Yep.
post #18 of 35
I definitely got some stares and "wow"s when I said we had five. I did bow to social convention by quickly adding, "They live outside, though," which generally calmed the listener down.

Frankly, two or three dogs (or even ONE dog in some cases) stink waaaay more than a whole passel of cats, even when well-cared for in both instances. Walking into a "dog-person" house is like walking into a snowglobe of fur, in my experience, lol. Anytime it's disturbed a bunch of hair goes floating around the room.

But then, I'm a cat person.
post #19 of 35
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Originally Posted by Ducman69 View Post
On a cat forum, the correct answer is "more than you can properly care for".

For society at large to avoid the "cat person" label, the correct answer is anything over three.
I like this answer best. There's cat people standard and society's.

I have one cat. Since I am the sole caretaker, I wouldn't be able to handle more than 2 cats.
post #20 of 35
I have 3, and think 3 is a perfect number. For me. Four would be my maximum. It all depends on the situation and how many you are comfortable with and can properly care for.
post #21 of 35
i have 9 furbabies
post #22 of 35
Growing up, my family typically had 9 cats, all rescues, strays or ones people dumped (that we would immediately get fixed, of course).
Now that I'm an adult with a house, we only have 2, but are currently fostering a mom cat and her 4 babies.

I am a lot more content having the mom cat and her babies in the house. My own cats are seldom seen and rarely want attention. Everyone is taken care of though. I am a 'housewife' so I have plenty of time for them. So I would also agree with 'as many as you can properly care for' and fosters don't count towards the amount since they will be re-homed (allegedly. I really want to keep my foster kittens )

For some reason in Norway it's often seen as lunacy to have more than two cats. And even my husband is really adamant about not having more than 2, but I'll just never understand that because I was raised with so many.
I love having a lot of lives in the house and I'd much prefer to have cats over human children.
I just think a house feels so empty without a lot of pets.
post #23 of 35
It definitely depends on the situation. I currently have 7 cats and 4 kittens who will be leaving within the next 5 weeks and that is too many for me financially. 6 is a good number for me and one or two litters over Summer.
post #24 of 35
Like everybody else here, I think it depends on the person and on the situation. We have six cats and will not take anymore because, financially, we can handle six. One more just might break the bank; I know how silly that sounds, but it is what it is. DH and I have agreed, too, that as these cats pass on, we will not be bringing more into the house. He agreed to Mollipop, but I think that was because I was grieving so terribly after Banshee passed on. He knew how badly I was hurting and when I talked to him about Mollipop, he wasn't real happy, but he agreed to make her the youngest RugCat. (And you should hear how he coos to her and lays with her....he loves that little girl.) People have looked at us when we mention that we have six cats, but we're so used to it that we don't care anymore. Now that our son is grown with his own family, those cats are our kids and we take care of them. All of them (even the little brat who wants breakfast at 4:00 in the morning!)

I've heard about people who have so many cats that they can't take care of them properly. I've heard about people whose children were sent home from school because they stank so badly of cat urine. People who have gone on vacation, come home to piles of feces all over the house, evidently because they didn't have a cat sitter....and were too tired to clean everything up before they went to bed that night. A friend told me one time of a woman whose cat pooped in her hair braids.....she just cleaned them as best she could and left them go. Now THAT'S too many cats combined with a definite lack of housekeeping. If you have cats, you need to keep after them. Every single day. It's a law or something (being facitious here . But you know what I mean.) When your kids are sent home from school b/c of pee odor, there's a problem.

OTOH, there's a lady in town who lives in a gorgeous three-story house. The top floor is completely devoted to her 14 cats. Cat trees, toys, beds, litterboxes, the whole bit. Those babies lack for nothing. She'll come home from work, make dinner for her furkids, make her own dinner and go up to the cat's floor and spend the night with them. The cats are allowed to roam the house and they do from time to time. But, for the most part, they're perfectly content to stay on their floor with their comforts. It's amazing to see that floor and everything that's there strictly for the furkids!

When I was the Zoning Officer in town, people would call the office to speak with me about a project they were working on at the time. They would say, "You know, I don't know her name, but she's a cat lady and she drives a red Cruiser!"
post #25 of 35
There is a difference between responsible animal care and people who are overwhelmed. Having many animals requires time, money, space and knowledge.

I work for http://www.animalhoardingproject.com

We consider anyone who tries to care for more animals than they have money, space and time for to be a potential animal hoarder who needs help.

Many people in the early stages of hoarding will put their pets before their own needs. Their animals might be healthy and even over-fed, but this comes at the cost of their own physical and mental well being.

Usually it is their relationships with friends and family that suffer the most.

If you or someone you know is concerned about the welfare of the animals and the people who care for them check out the site and give our team a call. We can help.
post #26 of 35
For me, 3 is the absolute top limit! Not only emotionally, but also physically. Some days I find it difficult to care for 3. Who knew kittens used the litter box so darn much!!

I would love to have dozens of cats and kittens because so many need homes. But I know physically I couldn't manage. Plus I wouldn't know how to divide my time among them all. Even with 3 I sometimes feel I'm neglecting one at times.
post #27 of 35
To me the bottom line is if you have the time each day to spend with each cat, as individuals and as a group, having the financial means to provide proper medical attention at all times, and physically be able to keep up with the cleaning. I also have a foster room. To me a foster or fosters are better off in a small room than living in a cage in the shelter. Vertical space is more important than square footage to cats. I just think a person has to know their emotional and physical limit when it comes to the amount of cats you have. I don't know if I have a limit but I certainly would know if I had too many. I have had at one time six cats of my own, plus a couple fosters. Yes, it was work, but to me it is a labor of love.
post #28 of 35
Nobody who has actually been to my home, and seen my cats has ever called or insinuated I was a hoarder...but multiple people on animal forums who have NEVER met me or seen my animals in person, or been to my house have. Those people clearly have a number in their head, and if someone goes over that number they are automatically a hoarder. (And its a dog forum where I have been called a hoarder or had something said about my number of cats, not even dogs but cats).

I have 9 permanent house cats,1 feral outside, 1 foster adult cat (though she is probably a permanent), and 11 foster kittens (5 being little ferals, and 2 who are going to be adopted this weekend). (Plus random neighborhood cats/ferals we feed)

But I also have 10 dogs, and 1 foster dog. I don't live alone, and I don't deal with the animal related issues alone. I am not the only one who deals with the financials with all our pets. But somehow people automatically assume I am not taking care of them properly because THEY couldn't!! I take my animals to the vet for every little thing! Actually a few days ago had a foxtail removed from my dogs eye. I have a huge box filled with vet bills and vet records from over the past few years.

My house isn't spotless....Doesn't matter how often I sweep there is always cat hair and cat litter on the floor! (And I sweep two times a day on days I work, and probably 4 on my days off!) I am very anal about cleanliness! I clean the cat boxes everyday (And we have 4 big litterbox, and 3 randomly placed ones in areas kittens have had "accidents".

One of my most hated pet peeves is people who don't even know you, who tell you that you must be a hoarder because they couldn't possibly take care of more than 3 cats, so you must not be able to!

And I foster for THE largest cat rescue in California (And actually i think in the US.). And they wouldn't allow me to foster if I was a hoarder. Tell all the other foster parents who have 10+ cats they are hoarders. I don't know anyone who is heavily involved in cat rescue/fostering who don't have atleast 5-8 cats, and usually more!
post #29 of 35
Thread Starter 
I've been called a hoarder too on the internet. I once mentioned on a site that I had taken in a mom and her litter and everyone thought I had stepped over the limit of hoarding and had now become a hoarder. My permanent crew is actually not that big. I have two dogs and 4 cats. The rest are fosters though. I have my three semi-ferals that I don't count towards my foster amount since they are not adoptable and then I have the four adoptable fosters which is the max allowed by Illinois law for a licensed foster home unless they are a litter.

"Many people in the early stages of hoarding will put their pets before their own needs. Their animals might be healthy and even over-fed, but this comes at the cost of their own physical and mental well being.

Usually it is their relationships with friends and family that suffer the most."

Hoarding is a mental disorder which is believed to be a version of OCD. Having more cats than you can care for well is definitely not good but I'm not so sure that that's the definition of hoarding. Having many cats and not a lot of money doesn't mean that you have a mental illness.

I think a lot of animal people, especially rescuers, will put the animals' needs before their own to some extent. I could use some more clothes but I think taking my sick cat to the vet is more important. I have several dents in my car that I've needed to fix for a couple of years but the cats are more important than my car.
My house isn't the cleanest especially now that my dogs are shedding like crazy. It's impossible not to smell the litterboxes even though they are cleaned daily. But that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make to ensure that the cats I have taken in didn't have to suffer on the street or be killed at some pound.

My family and especially my husband's family thinks I'm nuts so I guess in that sense it has caused problems with family but I don't think I should stop doing rescue because some people think it's crazy to have more than a couple of cats. My husband's family thinks that cats are a nuisance and the only good cat is a dead cat. I don't think these things make me a hoarder, just someone with different priorities than most people.
post #30 of 35
I think it's up to each of us my limit is 2 I can feed them keep them healthy and clean and give them plenty of love if you can do that and have a hundred cats I say go for it there are so many out there that need love (100 cat don't think so lol )

The mad cat lady now theres one I've heard lol my family said that when I had 1 cat imagine what they say now I have 2 lol my daughter tells me I'm going to turn into the old cat lady off of the Simpsons lol ( mind due it is said in fun ) if you love them hun who cares what others think our kittys love us can't beat that
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