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Awww... so sad.... Vibes for this little guy please ....

post #1 of 29
5/27/11 at 8:53am
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This sweet little guys has been hanging out by my door for a little while.... Today he was screaming and crying so I decided to check it out... As soon as I stepped out, he came right up to me and started rubbing on my legs ... I petted his head, sat on the floor and he jumped right on my lap and shwed me his belly for love
He is an unfixed tom, so skinny....
He has a gash on his nose, very small, but looks like he was in a fight last night. He also has what looks to be engine oil or melted asphalt on his legs

I came back home and he wanted in so badly....
I have 4 cats already in a 1br apartment, and no safe room to keep him apart from the others for now... There is no way I can bring him in and keep the others safe.

I called Kelly and she already called in a rescue; he is SO friendly, he would make a wonderful inside kitty - this guy just wants to be loved
I want to feed him so if the rescue takes him in he will be around by then, but at the same time if I feed him, I can't take the responsibility of TNR and can't feed him forever....

I am just a thorn as I can be....
Can I just have some vibes for this little one to be taken by this rescue please?

LL
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post #2 of 29
5/27/11 at 9:00am
many for the little guy
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post #3 of 29
5/27/11 at 9:02am
I'm sending many good for this beautiful kitty to be rescued and given lots of love. I can imagine how much you are hurting to see him right outside your door and can't bring him in. I understand tho that you have to protect your kitties. Just give him continued lovin' till the rescue comes and I hope that's soon so that he can be checked and put up for adoption.
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post #4 of 29
5/27/11 at 9:19am
Can you at least have him tested for felv fiv and neutered(maybe board for the night at the vet so he can go back out the next day). At least that will help them place him and get out the hormones so when a slot opens up he will be ready to go as opposed to needing a few days/weeks of their time/cage space to recover.
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post #5 of 29
5/27/11 at 9:21am
I would have to feed him
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post #6 of 29
5/27/11 at 9:22am
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I would have to feed him
I think I will Susan... It is breaking my heart... He is still by my door....
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post #7 of 29
5/27/11 at 9:42am
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I think I will Susan... It is breaking my heart... He is still by my door....
Awwwww A good meal, and hopefully they can find him a home
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post #8 of 29
5/27/11 at 9:48am
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I fed him a pouch of wellness... the poor thing licked the plate clean in a couple of seconds... Then he started screaming... I thing another tom got to the food and scared him away - don't know
I hope he comes back if the rescue calls... Poor baby would make a wonderful inside kitty.

As far as neutering him: I can't leave my home today for a low cost clinic - my work is nuts. My vet wants to charge me $150 which I can't spare from Bugsy's vet bills.... Sorry, but it is true - he has put me on a pay-check to pay-check situation.

I don't have a minute to leave the house to take him and find a place to go, and today is Friday. Maybe tomorrow I can find a place... I will see... But I really don't know - this guy does belong in a rescue, not on the streets - he needs to be loved - he is a total lap cat . For him to come to a total stranger and jump on my lap.... imagine how he would be in a house?
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post #9 of 29
5/27/11 at 9:49am
Lots of for this little one. I'd have to feed him, too.

If that rescue can't take him, there are 50 no kill shelters and rescues listed for Texas on nokillnetwork.com.

Robin
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post #10 of 29
5/27/11 at 9:51am
Poor thing. Manythe rescue comes through to help out.
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post #11 of 29
5/27/11 at 9:51am
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Lots of for this little one. I'd have to feed him, too.

If that rescue can't take him, there are 50 no kill shelters and rescues listed for Texas on nokillnetwork.com.

Robin
Hum....... wouldn't trust that much.... the no-kill shelters in texas, at least near Dallas are very much kill.... I rather neuter him and leave him out. Trust me - I am 100% against cats out, but the shelters here..... are..... kill kill
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post #12 of 29
5/27/11 at 9:53am
So, are you saying the info on that website is unreliable?
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post #13 of 29
5/27/11 at 9:55am
A-aw, he looks like my Peanut...! I'll take you in and feed you, you precious, sweet boy!

Good luck with him- he's beautiful and I think he definitely will make someone an excellent pet.
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post #14 of 29
5/27/11 at 9:55am
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So, are you saying the info on that website is unreliable?
No, because I don't know that website... What I know is my experience with people who works with rescue in here, in shelters, vets, etc. Dallas, and surroundings is very much kill. No-kill is relative around here.
I am sure there are good ones, but it can be hard to find.
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post #15 of 29
5/27/11 at 10:01am
But finding the no kill places is the mission of this website. If anyone knows first hand that the info regarding a listed organization is not accurate, then they ask it be reported. They make it easy to do so on the site.

Robin
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post #16 of 29
5/27/11 at 1:19pm
............
Waiting for someone can salve this poor boy!..
:vibes...........
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post #17 of 29
5/27/11 at 2:47pm
Aw Carolina, many vibes to you and the little guy!!!!!


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But finding the no kill places is the mission of this website. If anyone knows first hand that the info regarding a listed organization is not accurate, then they ask it be reported. They make it easy to do so on the site.

Robin
Robin, you may be aware of this, but I'm not sure others are. There are different definition of "no kill." Most mean they won't kill adoptable animals (and this little guy might well be deemed "adoptable") for space reasons. I've seen too many people visiting the ferals forum find a "no kill" shelter - only to have to live with the guilt that a healthy animal that didn't meet a shelter's definition of "adoptable" was put down. Technically the shelters are "no kill," but that excludes things like... illness they can't afford to treat, FIV or FeLV positive... that kind of thing. And once they're surrendered, usually there's nothing to do about it. I feel safe in saying that most "no kill" shelters either don't take ferals, feral-acting strays - or they accept them and put them down. I realize this little guy doesn't meet that definition, but for the benefit of other people reading this thread, I think it important to clarify that "no kill" doesn't mean they'll take any animal and not kill it.

An example would be the Humane Society of Atlantic County in NJ. They are a "no kill" shelter, and they take adoptable animals out of other shelters that are in line for euthanisation. They also take owner surrenders. But they state on their website, "The HSAC maintains a no-kill philosophy of never euthanizing for space related reasons. However, if an animal is not adoptable i.e.(age,aggression,health, or behavioral issues) or unable to be accepted by a professional animal rescue organization, we do not keep them caged for the rest of their life." http://www.hsacpet.org/shelter.html So a declawed kitty peeing outside the box, for instance, would be killed.

I think the No Kill Network is a great resource. But IMO it is important to understand that "no kill" is, in fact, a term with a "flexible" definition.
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post #18 of 29
5/27/11 at 6:23pm
Oh is he ever a cute boy . Yes, I would feed him too. I do hope you can find a rescue to take him tomorrow . He should not have a problem finding a home in a shelter near you, especially if he is so friendly and wants to be loved. I will send prayers that you have some luck finding the right shelter for this darling boy. They sure know where the cat loverslive, don't they, these poor strays.....
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post #19 of 29
5/27/11 at 6:31pm
Most "no kill" shelters control their population at the front door, instead of the back door. Less than ideal cat? Sorry, you'll have to take it to a municipal shelter or some such place.
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post #20 of 29
5/27/11 at 6:50pm
Yes, it's a"flexible definition." It has to be. Frankly, I think a totally no-kill shelter is irresponsible. And I think the shelter I am involved with is too "no-kill." Some may think that shocking. But not every animal is redeemable. There are some animals at my shelter, and we are talking about a handful here, out of about 170 in the building at any one time, that I can't see will ever have any life outside the cage. But, the management there keeps holding on to them. So are they really living "a life?" We are talking about animals that cannot be adopted because of severe behavior or health problems. And at this shelter, it means that they cannot even make it as a barn cat or in a feral colony. It is one of the issues I find most depressing. What is going to happen to these cats (and dogs also)? Are we doing them any service? What is the right thing for them?

It is a matter of judgment as what is thought best for the individual animals, and the animal community as a whole, and what one thinks the role of a "shelter" is. A shelter is not the same thing as a "rescue" in my mind. And a "sanctuary" is something else again, and even more rare.

It sounds like the cat Carolina found is quite adoptable. Hopefully the rescue that has been called will take him. If not, nokillnetwork.com is a resource to find another appropriate placement. It is supposed to be a fluid network where people, any people, give input regarding their experiences with shelters and rescues. So, again, if information is not accurate, or is misleading, that should be reported. They say the information is updated daily. Whether it works or not, I don't know. I know the information about two of the shelters in Illinois is accurate.

Robin
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post #21 of 29
5/27/11 at 7:49pm
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Rescue can not take him.
Here is one no one is considering it yet, not even I was considering it until I spoke on the phone about this little guy to a person who has 30+ years of experience in rescuing cats (not in my state): This cat is probably not a stray - this is probably someone's cat who was not neutered, started spraying and was put outside when kitten season arrived and he started yowling and going nuts with all the females around the house.
This is too friendly of a cat to be a stray.... really.... It can also be a lost pet who escaped or something, but I highly doubt this is a stray...
I have never seen a cat this friendly - 3 of my 4 cats house cats are not that friendly with me! And that was out in the open!
He has not been around since I fed him, but I know he will come back - he's been around for the last week or so.... just never so close (to me).
Maybe he is the cat who has been screaming his head outside our windows for a while -I wrote another thread about it.
I live in a u-shaped building with a parking lot on the back, and a trail behind that parking lot. There is quite a space by the time you get to the street, and it is not that busy out here. The building is very VERY animal friendly (obviously); everyone has either cats and/or dogs.
It is definitely a relatively safe area - I need to think about this carefully.
I would love to have the space or the $$$ for him, but I don't, and there is a point you have to be responsible and know what you can deal with it. He broke my heart into a million pieces, but ALL my rooms are taken. Lucky has her own feeding station, and Gracie lives in separate quarters. I would never, ever risk their lives by bringing him in and not isolating him; and for now it is not possible.
My vet charges $$$ That I can't afford now. Low cost clinics? I checked the SPCA -not that low cost when you consider the tests you have to do if you want to get him into an adoptable shape. Oh, to release him to SPCA? $50, plus the cost of vaccinations, plus the cost of the tests - add it all up, pretty much $100. Then you have to bring him to your home (inside) for10 days (which I can't) so their cat's lives won't be in danger. This is the Dallas SPCA. Well...... My cats? Let alone that 'til the end of the year I will not be home for 10 straight days.
The problem here guys, is that right now my expenses with Bugsy are quite high, and I am traveling a LOT - and every day I travel costs me $50 to have the kids looked after. June alone I am traveling 4 times (so far), 2 days minimum each time... not a pretty math.

So, here is the deal: I can only do what I can, and right now, unfortunately, is not much
I will try my hardest to find a place for this boy and to do the best for him - but I will not take from my own to make this happen and I hope you all understand that this is the reality I am dealing with.

So, put all that and the fear I have with all I have heard about the Shelters around here, vs knowing that he is pretty much ok outside..... I am really on a bind here.

It is ok to be judged I guess... this is the cat site after all, and I understand that reading this must be frustrating... But believe me.... My heart breaks ten-folded what yours do to write this.... But unfortunately this is the situation at hand.
I will continue to do whatever I can for him , physically, financially and emotionally.
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post #22 of 29
5/28/11 at 11:05am
I don't think anyone is judging you. No one can save them all, we wouldn't expect you to as well. You can only do your best.
And I think to know your limits is a wise thing to be respected. Surely it's not a good thing for anyone to get in over your head; we've all seen those cases and they are not pretty. So of course no one is holding it against you!
Maybe if you have some extra food or can afford something cheap at the store you can feed him a little. Even that counts for something! A little food and pets on the head would probably be more than he hoped for, in his eyes.
Everyone wants to help other cats but of course you have to put your own babies first. Please don't feel bad about that.
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post #23 of 29
5/28/11 at 2:13pm
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I don't think anyone is judging you. No one can save them all, we wouldn't expect you to as well. You can only do your best.
And I think to know your limits is a wise thing to be respected. Surely it's not a good thing for anyone to get in over your head; we've all seen those cases and they are not pretty. So of course no one is holding it against you!
Maybe if you have some extra food or can afford something cheap at the store you can feed him a little. Even that counts for something! A little food and pets on the head would probably be more than he hoped for, in his eyes.
Everyone wants to help other cats but of course you have to put your own babies first. Please don't feel bad about that.
If you think you might be able to afford having him neutered in the not too far distant future, or be able to work on finding a home, I'd keep putting some food out to keep him coming around so he's there to be helped when it's possible.
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post #24 of 29
5/28/11 at 3:39pm
Just a few things to add. It may not be ideal but the most pressing issue is neutering him not worrying about felv/fiv status(yes a concern but without being fixed hes going to fight and get some serious wounds)

Minus the testing, and since its a boy you really can get away with holding for less time-maybe a day or two(shelter ever asks cat escaped). Just trying to change the angle of thinking so its more about how it may be possible down the road to do something without worry to your cats health(been in a 1 bedroom apartment).

I would call your vet JUST for a price on a neuter and one day overnight hold on a STRAY(dont say feral or they may say no off the bat imagining a cat they will need many tech and glove to hold down for!) Also ask if they know any place else if they give you a super high rate. Worst case they tell you few hundred you tell them it is not possible thats it..no one is going to say much to you not being able to neuter a stray when you all ready have 4 cats all done in the house who get medical care.
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post #25 of 29
5/28/11 at 6:44pm
Aw hun, I totally understand. My vet bills are just piling up between my two old dogs, a feral injury, and now Pipsqueak........ Don't know if you already mentioned or looked into this, and sorry if you already did, But are there any TNR organizations near you? If so, it is usually only about $35.00. I would just keep feeding him and when possible bring him in to get fixed. He sounds so friendly and he would be easy to get into a crate so you won't have to trap him. Much luck with this handsome boy in finding a place for him
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post #26 of 29
5/31/11 at 10:13am
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Thank you guys... Yeah, the idea of contacting a TNR group sounds good....
Something strange happened... When I fed him that day, he was eating happily, I came to my desk to work, then I heard him screaming - a fight. I think another tom showed up for the food and scared him away... That was the last time he was around
I hope he is ok.... I have been looking for him, but he is nowhere to be seen....
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post #27 of 29
5/31/11 at 1:30pm
I'm so sorry he hasn't been around. Other cats will run each other off - especially if they're not sterilized. Before he was neutered, Chumley was a terror to other cats (in fact, so was Tuxedo).
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post #28 of 29
5/31/11 at 1:35pm
I am sure he will be back though....but I am sure the other strays are on to a new food source. that you see him soon.
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post #29 of 29
6/30/11 at 1:55am
If nothing else, maybe you could put a collar on him so that he doesn't get picked up by animal control??

Are you right IN Dallas? I'm finding it hard to say no to that face...
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