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post #31 of 47
5/31/11 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by Rosiemac View Post
He just recently turned 4.
Then he is past the point I was thinking of. It definitely sounds like redirected aggression though what started it sounds like a total mystery. I've heard that the offending incident could have happened hours before the aggression.

The only way I've heard to address it is to do reintroductions again. I would sequester Jack somewhere and let Rosie have the run of the house. Then do the exercises of feeding them on both sides of a door and swapping scents. I have found that playing with Carly has helped her gain confidence and she isn't as skittish around the kittens so maybe play time with Rosie would help her become more confident.
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post #32 of 47
5/31/11 at 2:45pm
Was it Rosie or Sophie that was recently under the weather? And when was her last annual check up?

I'm wondering if it isn't worth taking her in for a check up - just to make sure! Then maybe reconsider reintroducing them?

Also, Jana's thoughts make sense to me. Billy seemed like SUCH a submissive kitty when he was first here. He was about 2 when rescued. that means he's almost 4 now. It took him about a year to get completely comfortable here. ...and for the past few months, he's really focused his attention on Lazlo (usually the alpha, though it's a bit flexible) - and he no longer backs down, and definitely swipes out at other kitties - especially Shelly or Ming Loy when they get in his space and he isn't into it.

It's just really odd!!!!!

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post #33 of 47
5/31/11 at 2:49pm
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I've heard that the offending incident could have happened hours before the aggression.

The only way I've heard to address it is to do reintroductions again.
Oh really?!. They were fast asleep together with me all that night on the sofa, then not long after being in bed that's when Jack changed so suddenly?.

I will leave him in the conservatory at bedtime, then when i'm at work and do the blanket swap again as well as the feeding. I've been brushing Jack, then Rosie etc..

Poor Sophie, she's one of the most laid back cats, and in the midst of all this she just carries on throwing her knitted ball up in the air that the cats protection gave them like nothings happening
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post #34 of 47
5/31/11 at 2:52pm
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Was it Rosie or Sophie that was recently under the weather? And when was her last annual check up?
It was Jack first, then Rosie, but that was weeks ago and their fine now?. Rosie and Sophie are due their checkups in the next month though so i'll have a word with their vet
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post #35 of 47
6/1/11 at 12:07pm
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
I'm no expert at introducing animals, but it sounds like you need to go back to the beginning and separate them for a period of time and slowly start the reintroductions as you would if they were just coming home to live with you. Also, try that vanilla extract on the base of the tail. Apparently that masks that cat smell and it might help with the aggressiveness.

Lots and lots of vibes that they will all be best friends again
I feel really badly for Rosie with all this commotion going on. I was going to suggest exactly the same thing Natalie. I think maybe starting over might be the way to go. And here I thought things had gotten better ;(
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post #36 of 47
6/2/11 at 1:41am
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I know, and this is why l have to put Jack in the room on his own because l don't want her thinking it's something she's done?

I hope i'm not tempting fate by saying things are improving, but there wasn't any growls or hissing from either of them last night.

Rosie was curled up by my side on the sofa, and Jack was curled up on my lap. Then l started scritching Rosie's ears, then thought i'd gently rub all over the sides of her face where their scent glands are?.

After doing that for about 10 seconds, l rubbed her scent all over Jacks face and body, then did the same to him, then back to Rosie etc... I did that for about 10 minutes, then 15 minutes later, Rosie stood up and put her front paws on my chest so l started stroking her, then Jack raised his head back towards Rosie, she leant forward and they nose kissed without any hissing for at least several seconds before she curled up at my side again!!

He went to see her upstairs this morning and she hissed at him, but l didn't see what happened and he came straight downstairs.

I think this is going to be a long process, but i'll do the scent transfer every day.
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post #37 of 47
7/11/11 at 2:05am
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It's took just over 2 month's but it looks like their finally back to normal!

Rosie stayed on my bed the entire time because she was obviously scared incase Jack jumped on her again when she was walking around, but she was fine with him on the bed and she still groomed him?.

She refused to walk on the floor, so at breakfast l would put her on the litterbox in the spare room, come in from work in the afternoon put her on the litterbox again, then carry her downstairs to the sofa where she stuck to me like glue, then carry her upstairs again at bedtime, put her on the litterbox, then onto my bed. I didn't want her on her own because l was worried incase she got depressed

I got the bubbles out one day and that made her jump down, then Jack and Sophie started to interact, so l got them out every afternoon.

Last week was the first time she came downstairs on her own, but she was cautious because her back was low when she walked fast from room to room and her eyes were everywhere Jack still stalked her but l think he was just wondering why she was being like that still?.

Anyway, patience paid off and they seem back to normal now, apart from one thing?. Rosie won't go on their tree anymore since this all happened, so l think that's probably where it started. I've sprayed it with Feliway and she looks at it, but no way will she go near it so i'll have to get another tree for them.

Here's the snuggle buns a couple of nights ago

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post #38 of 47
7/11/11 at 6:17am
Yea for Rosie and Jack
I know you put a lot of effort and a lot of patience with helping them work things out and it looks like all that effort paid off. Patience is certainly the key

That pic is too sweet
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post #39 of 47
7/11/11 at 4:07pm
Hooray!

So glad they are best friends again, and certainly hope it stays that way furever . Sorry you have to buy a new tree, but it's worth it to have them together again, right? And I guess Sophie has been spared any anxiety from all this?
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post #40 of 47
7/11/11 at 5:14pm
Happy to hear things are returning to, well semi normal. Poor Rosie, how could such a sweet kitty become an innocent target? I'm sure both of you want to know! I hope Jack is sorry for his misdirected aggression and makes it up to her
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post #41 of 47
7/11/11 at 6:59pm
Wow, this whole thing is just so strange! But as Pami said, you put so much effort into making it right, and thank goodness it paid off!

Sounds like the new tree will be money well spent!
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post #42 of 47
7/12/11 at 2:48am
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Sorry you have to buy a new tree, but it's worth it to have them together again, right?
Oh definitely!. Anything to make sure it's a calm household
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And I guess Sophie has been spared any anxiety from all this?
Sophie's just carried on throwing her toys in the air like she hasn't got a care in the world!. As much as Sophie is very laid back she doesn't take any nonsense from Jack. He knows where he stands with her, because if she's not interested she bops him on the head a couple of times and runs off leaving Jack with a "What did l do?!" expression
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I hope Jack is sorry for his misdirected aggression and makes it up to her
I think he is?. For the past few weeks now he's been walking up to her making little "meep" sounds, then he lies beside her so she can give him a face bath
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post #43 of 47
7/12/11 at 4:46am
I'm so happy that they are buddies again!
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post #44 of 47
7/12/11 at 4:55am
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I'm so happy that they are buddies again!
So am l Linda. I hate having an unsettled house
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post #45 of 47
7/12/11 at 7:51am
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So am l Linda. I hate having an unsettled house
Of course, every time we bring home a foster, we have an unsettled house for a week or so, at least.
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post #46 of 47
7/13/11 at 2:29am
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Of course, every time we bring home a foster, we have an unsettled house for a week or so, at least.
I bet the Feliway is on constantly in your house then?. Once again l think it's helped my kids
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post #47 of 47
9/23/11 at 1:17pm
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Originally Posted by Rosiemac View Post
I bet the Feliway is on constantly in your house then?. Once again l think it's helped my kids
Nope, we've never used the stuff.

When we bring home a kitten, we put it in the spare bathroom. The door has enough space under it that our cats can smell and hear what's in the room. Pretty quickly, Sterling and Flambe are sticking their paws under the door, and usually the foster is doing the same.

Then, when we let them out, after the first few initial hisses, Sterling is mothering on the kittens, and Flambe is playing with them. Punkin just watches them, and Ella runs away from them, at first.
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