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post #61 of 83
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Originally Posted by leanansidhex View Post
Sorry I haven't responded. I'm so new to the internet as a whole, and forums completely, that I Just found a way to retrace my earlier postings on all sites.

I mentioned wikipedia as "a place to start". It gave me an idea where to begin digging into a product. I also used the Brand website as a cross reference to create an initial profile.

I then looked for details that may have been incorrect or pertinent information that was not included in those initial sources. Look way beyond the first results and first pages, as it is easy enough to have complimentary results come up on the first pages.

With every search it became easier to find connections that could not be made from reading product labels, watching commercials, visiting pet food brand websites, pet food retailers, or even reading mainstream magazines about pet ownership.

Many of "veterinarian?" websites I found had information on nutrition that tended to skew toward the whatever they were suggesting/selling.

Many of those sites where very convincing and sophisticated in their presentation. Many sites echoed and repeated results from the consumer research results companies.

There was one vet site that "felt" more wrong, seemed more wrong, than the other sites, but I couldn't figure out why.
Since I am the target consumer, YES, my impressions are entirely relevant.

It took almost an hour of reading glowing testimonials, cutesy pet stories and endless pictures of animal dressed up for the holidays to find the important incongruity in their Holistic message.

They advocated the use of SLENDEROL, by Pfizer and COVENIA.

Attempts to corroborate the initial wiki and brand site info, has led to new found, useful information that has come from many diverse sources.

These sources include, but are not limited to, industry insider websites for investment companies, pet food manufacturers, professional recall specialists catering to corporate clients, the Canadian equivalent to the U.S. FDA, marketing companies used by pet food companies, Consumer research done for pet food companies in regards to public perception of brands and how to best use this information to create a favorable impression of their brands, nutrition results on various ingredients and possible non favorable outcomes of using those ingredients ....

I could go on but that is a good overview for anyone else wishing to do deeper analysis of for-profit companies that they trust their pets lives to.

One more thing that I think is important, if you want to follow up, Veterinary Care (big picture) is being bought into by "investment firms" that leverage the value of the business or hospital and then sell their interest in the business, reaping HUGE profits.

That information came from THE companys' site under their presentation for future investors.

I contacted the investment company for further information on their relationships with individual pet related "acquisitions" but never heard back from them.

I also contacted the acquired companies directly and heard back in replies that varied little from each other. I was assured nothing had changed, everything was well and would remain status quo.

Interesting to me, because that would mean a reversal of past, documented, management of "acquired targets".

All of my "proof" for my posts have been written (and parsed) ad nauseam in another community, under the same username. Best located under my posts (inclusive), rather than just my threads.
I refer anyone interested to them first because I a Am Tired, and I think it's all been covered.

If after reading my responses, Sincere questions remain, or anything not addressed that is important to you I will happily discuss on this site.

Also, I'm sure most of you can understand when I say I'm also done "discussing" this with the 1% that are are stuck on some random aspect, but won't read further or educate themselves relative to the actual discussion, but still think they have something relevant to say.

None of Us of course! [smiley face] I don't know how to use the icons

My intent was to inform any other owners that had not heard of did the under-the-radar Voluntary Recall that might still have a chance.

When you say [Wellness] "did reveal their recall so the pet stores should have pulled the batches" I think I understand your reasoning. Unfortunately, in my situation, "timing was everything".

I am not alone in my lack of fortunate timing regarding this recall. Search the Results for Wellness recall 2011.


Wellness choice of a voluntary recall kept the FDA from listing Wellness, on FDA recall website (I have e-mail updates sent) kept the info off the evening news and out of newspapers.

Good for Wellness image and Wellness business---(text book damage control) not so good for getting the word out to owners of at risk cats.

I wasn't aware that checking the Wellness website everyday would be necessary. I wasn't aware of TruthAboutPetFoods.com then. Those are the only places I have found that the Voluntary Recall was Initially disseminated.

I had purchased 2 cases of Wellness just before the recall.

The Irony? They swiped my buyer card, or loyalty card that day.

When the Wellness cans I had purchased that day were recalled, the Pet Store could have contacted me to inform me that My Boy could be adversely affected, Wellness was the only brand on the receipt.

They did not. Seems the "Loyalty" aspect of their card does not apply to them.

Sorry I took so long to respond. I'm not as adept at navigating forum sites and their usage as I am at compiling and extrapolating Data.

Thank You for the heads up on the Weruva thread.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to undermine your unfortunate experience. My purpose was to inform people that many internet sites, especially wikil, are not totally trustworthy. Obviously, you have done your research. The pet food industry, let alone the human food industry, is wrought with questionable practices to say the least. I'm truly sorry about your cat. My post was not intended to focus on some random aspect of a post, just to make people wary of believing everything on the internet.
post #62 of 83
Let's see. We've got three boys in my house. Marcus and Galen are mine, and James is my roommate's. But they're all our boys these days
James is a dry food fiend, he won't touch the wet. he's sniffed and licked at it but ultimately ignored it.

For dry, we feed Natural Balance alpha, but I'm adding in some dry Evo and considering switching them over to that for their dry. I've heard nothing but good things about Evo so it's worth a try. I've also heard great things about Orijen but there's nowhere near me that carries it if the Evo doesn't work out, I'm probably going to try TOTW next.

For wet food, Marcus and Galen get it in the morning and at night. Marcus will eat anything (thank goodness, since he's my struvite kitty!) but Galen only eats things with fish in it. they usually get Soulistic (affordable), tiki cat, or BFF. I'll throw in miscellaneous grain-free cans (like TOTW, once I tried weruva but it's hard to find, NB, Blue Buffalo shredded, NB pouches). I don't feed wellness canned because I've heard stories of cats getting struvites on wellness.
post #63 of 83
'specially since I am so new to the internet, the warning about Wiki was definitely a wise idea. Thank you.

It may be that when I read it there was a residue of "random aspect of a post focus" from another site I had just come from.

Not only had the POs in the other forum not done any research on their own,
They were indiscriminately handing out scientifically unsubstantiated "facts" about nutrition.

Yet they were seriously offended when I innocently (for a change lol) asked them how I could access their sources.

No one here has any history with me, and they are smart to question, and ask for my process.

Always do your own homework, regardless of the source.

The POs in the other forum said they didn't have time to look up all this stuff, yet my research into how much time they spent in that forum, and what they replied to suggested to me that they simply had other priorities.

Pictures of cats in holiday outfits, and funny cat videos.
post #64 of 83
My kitties are 6 and 9 years old and have been on raw since they got here.

When boarding, they get canned, grain-less Wellness or Merricks along with Wysong Dentatreat and C.E.T chews.
post #65 of 83
I feed Evo Chicken and Turkey dry mixed with TOTW dry to my F3 Savannah. He has done great on it.

My domestics get all types of dry foods as one of them is one of the pickiest cats I have ever met in my life . Some examples are: Nature's Instinct Rabbit, Wellness Core Salmon, Blue Buffalo and such. Yes I get sample bags for her .

The domestics also get Purina One Dry food as well.
post #66 of 83
Mine are on 100% canned, which changes brands every so often. Right now, though, it's the Chicken formula of Wellness. Maybe in a couple of months I'll switch to Innova.

I kind of want to add in dry food again, because it's cheaper and I can leave it out all day (maybe), and then give a can or a half-can to each of the girls later in the day. However, one of my girls, Molly, loves food far too much for that. She'd spend all day in front of the bowl of kibble, helping herself. One of my other girls, Willow, seems to have issues with UTIs. She hasn't had one in years, though, which just so happens to be about the last time they had kibble. I'd rather keep Willow on 100% wet food for this reason. I can put up with Molly being obese, but not Willow having a bladder infection.
post #67 of 83
I tried Blue Buffalo and Wellness, then Taste of the Wild. He likes the TOTW the best. I am going to try some wet, once he gets used to the TOTW. When I put the TOTW in his feeder,he dove right in. The other two, he just picked at.
post #68 of 83
Switched to TOTW Salmon about a year ago.
Cats love it and my two older cats have lost 2lbs each on it. Which is a good thing...they were a bit overweight!
post #69 of 83
My boys eat dry & wet. Dry is Acana and wet brands Bozita (a.k.a Mjau), Animonda (Carny & Vom Feinsten), sometimes Miamor.
They also get some raw meat every now and then, like hearts (pig), horse, turkey wings (with bones) etc.

Luna is quite picky, she doesn't like any wet food so she eats dry. At the moment Acana mixed with Applaws kitten.
post #70 of 83
My kitten eats Wellness brand dry & wet
post #71 of 83
Switched from Science Diet to TOTW dry. Unless Woody tells me different, he will stay on it. His coat is soft and lush, he doesn't cough up hairballs, and doesn't lick himself near as much. Also his poo doesn't smell.
post #72 of 83
50/50 Wet Dry

I was giving her Wellness and Royal Canin but she recently has quit eating the Wellness. She turns her nose at anything that isnt Royal Canin now. I liked the Wellness because it was a little cheaper then the Royal Canin. Anyone have any suggestions for a cheaper high quality food for kittens. Is Avoderm any good for kittens.
post #73 of 83
Kairi is fed moistened Blue Buffalo Kitten growth all day, and he get a half a can of premium canned at night. (I have tried giving him canned in the morning-he fluffs his tail and walks away.) The canned I've tried so far...

Blue Buffalo-Tempting tuna-hated it
Natural Balance-LOVED the Salmon flavor, likes the venison and peas.
Science diet-likes the turkey and giblets

Why do they only make the pate type? It's hard for him to get it into his mouth I think. He likes to grab food, and you can't grab flat mush.
post #74 of 83
Wet about 70% to about 30% dry.

Wet - Natural Choice Complete Care and Nutro Max along with several other brands.

Dry - Nutro Max Indoor Roasted Chicken

Treats = Greenies
post #75 of 83
Thread Starter 
I can't believe how many responses this has gotten!! I've been wanting to do some stats on this, wet v dry, grain v no-grain, brands, but it got really difficult and I had to stop. I want to carve out a couple hours and try again! I know it would be REALLY interesting!
post #76 of 83
Right now I feed my kitten the Wellness dry & wet kitten food. She always has dry out to snack on and I feed her a can throughout the day of the wet.
post #77 of 83
Using up the dry chicken soup I have and have made the switch to raw. I have a case of Innova canned (large cans $1.79!) yet to go through and may just keep some around the house for variety. (+2 nu-cat vits per cat per day)

So canned prob 25% and raw 75%. My kibble junkie is finally transitioning!
post #78 of 83
Orijen and Wellness Core dry and for wet food a variety of grain free canned, mostly Wellness Core canned and their pouches.
post #79 of 83
Dry: (free-feed) Started with Wellness (regular & CORE), but at least one of the cats would constantly throw it up. Tried Before Grain, they didn't like it, and gave my one cat chin pimples. I'm now on Taste of the Wild and all are doing fine, and mix a bit of Petsmart's Authority(grain free version) in as well.


Wet: Started with Wellness canned, then switched to packets (one cat refuses ANY pate). Then switched to Petco's Soulistic pouches & cans. They also loved Simply Nourish, but it seemed to be pretty much the same as Soulistic, content wise, with a higher price tag. I'm now also trying Petsmart's Authority, which is well received (has many non-pate types), and quite a bit cheaper than others. Also do a little DIY chicken recipes here & there.


Raw: Tried NV medallions, they liked at first, but became more & more disinterested. Of course, at around the same time they started to lose interest is when I switched my wet offerings to Soulistic. Haven't explored much else with this yet.


PetSmart's annual friends & family sale was a great way to sample various foods, although now I have a bunch of cans I gotta get rid of as I couldn't tell if they were pate/chunks/etc... (ended up being pate).
post #80 of 83
This reply is going to get a lot of "ughs" but it works for my cat. I had tried a lot of grain free premium dry foods. The kibble was too small, he was eating too fast. I finally put Woody on Nutro Max Indoor dry and Nutro Natural Choice Complete Indoor canned. Since the Nutro dry is bigger kibble, he chews it and I mix water with the canned and he laps it right up. I know most people here don't like Nutro, but Woody loves it. As a matter of fact he likes it better than the premium rich dry foods. I realize cats should have a grain free food, but some cats don't do well on it. Woody likes the dry better than the canned, but at least with water mixed with it, he will lap it up. I say feed your cat what he/she will eat.
post #81 of 83
Now that I finally got her off the shelter Cat Chow crack and onto wet food (phew!): Purina ProPlan (1st wet food she actually liked) and Nutro Max. Trying to ditch the Purina & meat by products. She seems to like Nature's Variety Prairie (nearly any flavor); also some Weruva pouches, Life's Abundance and PetGuard. The more the merrier.
post #82 of 83
one is on all wellness grain free wet. The other is on mostly blue buffalo wilderness, i'd say about 70%. I've decided to be a little bit more persistent in getting him to eat wet though because the dry just has too many fillers
post #83 of 83
my 12 week old cynder gets about 90% blue buffalo wilderness canned food and 10% blue buffalo dry kitten food. up until 3 days ago he was eating only the canned food and i would leave a bowl of the dry out but he never ate it. went to work and came home 7 hrs later and noticed he had eaten quite a bit of the dry and didn't want his wet so i took it away and will only put down a little before i go to work..
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