Rapture- this Saturday? - Page 3

There are any number of churches today that started or got a big boost predicting an end of the world. Look up "Millerites," just as an example. The Jehovah's Witnesses set a date. Came and went.

People should believe what they want to, as long as it doesn't lead them to make very foolish decisions. You know, the old "Live as if the world is ending today, but plan as if it will last forever."

Here's a clue, however. Unless we get hit by a previously unseen asteroid, we will all be here tomorrow, discussing this still.

Yeah, I'm wondering what time zone heaven runs on. Jerusalem time? I just checked, and it's currently 10:37 pm there.

then fasten your seatbelts (or not) for the next hour and 23 minutes ?

Yep - you can read all about the different predictions here:
http://www.allgov.com/Unusual_News/V...t_Didnt_110520

Actually, we ARE partying--but not for that reason. This the day we treat the neighborhood "detectives" (the sweet kids who helped us find our cat last week) to an ice cream and cake party.

Awww, that's awesome hun, good for you!

6:10PM and I'm still here, woot! With a belly full of garlic fingers and pizza at that mmmmmm...

In guessing we are all fine

Just aside i have been watching doctor who and I believe him the world ends in 5 billion so I'll be long gone then

I did not say that Kaile. Don't put words in my mouth, people who are partying for the rapture are only mocking God and you all know the world cannot last forever.

I am sorry this person made this prediction. Maybe he was sincere in his heart, but he is sincerely wrong. It is 6:54 where I live and everything is unchanged. My son just called to make certain we are still here.

Inevitably what I believe you'll see happen is a lot of false association as well.

Imagine if the Japan earthquake occurred today or tomorrow instead of March. Disasters occur somewhat frequently all around the globe, but instead of coincidence, it would be seen as the burning bush. Ultimately, if you want to see something enough, you'll see shadows of it everywhere. Heck, just travel down South and ask around how many people have seen Jesus manifest his image on a piece of toast...

Well that is rude.

I know, personally, some of the people that are followers of Harold Camping. He is not an ordained pastor, just a civilian that is part owner of a radio station.

Altho' I do not subscribe to Mr. Camping's teachings, I do have compassion for those that so whole-heartedly believed what he was teaching.

Most of them, I dare say, haven't really studied for themselves, but just chose to sit under his teaching - not really able or willing to check the Scriptures for themselves.

That they decided to go "all out" in following him, and believing that they need to be active in proclaiming what they believed to be true, shows they were willing to act out what they believed - so, you kind of have to give them credit for being willing to stick out their necks for what they believe.

I am now very concerned for the people that I know personally - for most of them this is the second time they believed H. Camping, and found it to be a a false belief - and I imagine they will be in hiding for quite some time, and I hope they don't find negative avenues to deal with the embarrassment, pain, and disappointment they must be feeling right now.

The Ripple Affect continues with the relatives and friends of these Followers. They have to figure out how to help the Followers heal through this time of ridicule and scoffing that they are going to experience - to say nothing of the financial and material losses that they have now experienced.

This is all very sad.

It is 6:22 here and just as I thought, nothing has happened. Another false prophet is revealed. Anyone who has studied the Bible knows that no one knows the date or time of the return of Jesus, not the angels, not Jesus Himself, but only God knows. I feel sorry for those who were duped into believing that this would happen. And I mean no offense to you Miagi's_Mommy.

In Matthew 24:36, Jesus spoke of this very incident. "But of that day and hour, no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only". This is why Mr. Camping has been proven to be a false prophet.

I am a southerner. I have never even heard of what you are talking about here. That was rude.

That is based on the Mayan calendar, which has nothing to do with Biblical prophesies. But I've heard that this is just referring to a major change. Or that they miscalculated how they interpreted the Mayan calendar to ours and it either already happened or won't happen for 100 or so years.

There have been end of the world predictions for centuries based on the same book. And 100% of them have been wrong thus far.

Actually, that most commonly happens in heavily Catholic areas, and it's almost always the Virgin Mary.

There is a significant portion of the population everywhere that believes entirely illogical things. Something like 10% of all Americans still believe Elvis is alive, John Kennedy is alive, 9/11 was an inside job, Americans never landed on the moon, Lee Harvey Oswald was innocent, airplanes are spreading poisons in their contrails, the UN is about to take over the US, President Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya, George W. Bush deserted from the National Guard, cats cause schizophrenia, vaccines cause autism, Michael Moore cares about the average guy, Rush Limbaugh was framed by the DEA, Arnold Schwarzenegger is a typical Republican, Donald Trump knows how to run a business, Roswell had a real flying saucer, Osama Bin Laden was actually killed years ago, Osama Bin Laden is still alive and working for the CIA...well, you get my point, people are irrational and illogical by nature and it's not hard getting them to believe almost anything, especially if it partially agrees with what they already thought.

Agreed, even though I am not a southerner that was really uncalled for.

Plus, even though it isn't happeneing NOW, it will happen at some time or another. 6 PM was only an approximate time. Doesn't make Harold wrong.

How long is Harold asking for people to wait this time?

He has said be patient. He is not a false prophet or whatever- he is speaking the truth. People need to have faith in God, Harold is only a teacher; just because he was wrong before doesn't mean he is wrong this time and I do not think he will be wrong this time. Even though it has not happened YET, it will happen.. I have faith in that and God.

I am a Southerner, from Texas, I meant South of Texas as in predominantly Catholic South America where so many claim to see divinity in things like pieces of toast simply because that's what they want to see. If you love cats and look at the clouds, you're bound to see cat shaped clouds from time to time.

Its mocked so frequently for being silly, I thought most knew what I was referencing. Google "Jesus Toast" or an image search for example.

Yeah well it was in poor taste and I don't find it silly or one bit funny.

It's good that you have faith, but, to most people, he looks exactly like a false prophet, and the "Be patient, it's coming" line is one that is frequently used by those whose predictions don't come true.

Mock him if you will. Others are doing it, but it the day isn't even over yet in some areas including mine!

I'm not taking sides or defending anyone's global generalizations.

But there are people who have seen religious faces in their toast.

Here is a link to a piece of toast that a woman from South Carolina believes shows the face of Jesus Christ.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/rchemel/face...heese-toast-4c

http://www.goupstate.com/article/200...image-of-Jesus

It's quite common for people to see "religious imagery" in stuff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percept...ural_phenomena

No different really than going outside and looking at clouds and seeing pictures of ducks, dragons, faces etc.

Here is one from a Dallas Texas man. He sees Michael Jackson. I have to admit that I even see MJ's face in that! LOL

http://www.pynkcelebrity.com/wp-cont...cko-toast1.jpg

You have no clue what you are talking about... First of, south of Texas is still NORTH America, not South America. By the time you get to South America, you have a very long way to go.
BTW - I am a South American and I grew up Catholic, and we see no divinity in peace of toast.
This, (divinity in a piece of toast) I have seen, on a very AMERICAN, and silly episode of GLEE. So, I advise you stopping using TV shows lines to talk about what you don't know... You sound rude to say the least.

It doesn't make him right either.

Say something often enough and it will eventually come to pass. For example: "The maple tree at the corner of the street will lose all of it's leaves on October 1, 2011" October 1, 2011 comes and goes, the tree still has it's leaves. Ok, so now it's October 2nd. Nope. Still has it's leaves. Predict it day by day until finally on November 22nd, the tree drops it's leaves. Does that make whomever predicted the tree losing it's leaves right? No, of course not. They predicted the event for October 1, 2011. And since it didn't happen that day, they were wrong!!

We know for sure that the world will end in approximately 5 billion years, when our sun dies. Life here might end earlier if we are hit with a large asteroid, comet, or planet, and a collision with the Earth would be extremely loud and would cause fires. The world could also end if there is a black hole "nearby" that we don't know about yet.

The Bible says the end of the world will come like a thief in the night, and there will be great noise and fire. It says no person or even angels will know the date, so it's a pretty sure thing it won't be on a date specified in the news, so we are all safe for 2012, too.

If I ever admit to watching GLEE, I give you full authorization to use lethal force to deter me from ever doing so again, lol. And yes, most Catholics make fun of those that see holy figures in a piece of toast or cinnamon bun, but it is commonplace enough have entered mainstream pop-culture. We had a whole thread on another forum I frequent in fact where we had a photoshop contest with variations on the 'jesus toast' meme, such as Elvis Toast and the like. Traveling South of of the US (or Texas specifically where I am) enters the predominantly Catholic region from which most of these stories stem. People are getting far too defensive here rashly jumping to wrong conclusions based on a single misunderstood comment. Breath. Relax.

Well, Let me quote you again:
Sorry,but this, again, is simply not true, and again, being South American myself, and raised Catholic, I can say you do not know what you are talking about.
Before telling me to breath and chill, be careful yourself with things you write not to offend others.

Secondly, I am also in Texas, and Hello... South America is way....... way...... way....... South of here. Or do you even know that Mexico (which is what you are probably referring to, "South of the border") is still North America?

If you want to insist that there aren't many Catholics that see Jesus and Mary in toast (and various other every day things from building reflections to coffee swirls), very well, I don't see any value in arguing with you. If you thought I was saying that represents every Catholic or everyone down South, that is not what I meant, and I apologize if I wasn't specific enough. In any case, this is now so very off topic from the point I was making in that "if you want to see something, you will see it" with regard to people seeing any natural disasters anywhere in the world as proof the doom&gloom prophecy is coming true. Crystal?
South America is South of the US and of Texas. Do we really need to get into an argument of how far South it is, or argue imaginary statement that were never made and completely irrelevant to the point? And why are you putting "South of the border" in quotes? I didn't say that, so who are you arguing with? I am quite content w/ my geographic knowledge, there is no reason for you to get so bent out of shape over a misunderstanding, and my intent was not to offend you.