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post #31 of 39
6/2/11 at 7:10am
Clean up that couch corner with a good strong enzymatic cleaner right away, or you may have trouble with repeat spraying on that spot, not just from Oreo but the other three too.

Your signature is wonderful, what a gorgeous bunch of cats!

The feliway will help him adjust to staying inside. It won't hurt the other cats to be inside either. Safer for them.
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post #32 of 39
6/2/11 at 3:22pm
WOW!!!! Love you siggy and all of your cats are gorgeous. I love OREO, what a cute face he has. Everything is going quite well it seems . I am going to agree with Otto too, you MUST clean that couch with an good product, enzyme urine cleaner that will kill the smell and bacteria. Otherwise, there will be more marking in that same spot. It is such a rewarding feeling to see these cats come around and make progress day by day. This is going very well IMO.
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post #33 of 39
6/12/11 at 12:36am
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Things are beginning to go wrong. Oreos timidness and apprehension started giving way to being comfortable which made me happy, but now that he is more comfortable he's being more agressive, and the Tom is coming out in him. He follows me everywhere meowing and if I start to give any of my other cats attention, he starts meowing loudly and walks fast towards us, making them hiss and go away...I can't do any of the things I normally do with my other cats because he bullies in even when Ive just given him treats if I go to pour one my other cats some treats he meows loud and bullies in to eat them making my kitties go away :/:/ It ticks me off. When they do anything more than walk, if they trot or run up the stairs, he makes his noise and goes after them, making them hiss and scared. No one is comfortable in the house now.....we are all on eggshells as to how he's going act. Ever since I let him out if his room into the house, he hates being put in there at all....he still has low guttural meowing and his neutering was on May 16th. Just now I walked him to his room and went to pour him some treats and he went after my leg..just with his paws not biting, but it startled me. He has had to live a street life and I don't know how social he can be or if this will work with my other cats...they are starting to behave differently and more aggressive with each other and I am very upset at how it is changing them...I never wanted anything to change my babies....I loved how we were and everything is different now....
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I just don't know what to do.....I can't have things like this and the life we had changed for the worse like this....can every Tomcat be domesticated with lifelong housecats?????
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post #34 of 39
6/12/11 at 1:28am
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Originally Posted by EY5150 View Post
Oreos timidness and apprehension started giving way to being comfortable which made me happy, but now that he is more comfortable he's being more agressive,....and he went after my leg..just with his paws not biting, but it startled me.
What did he do, did he clawed you, or did he smacked you with soft paw, like they do when "teaching" their friends, or even playing?

Some of what you describe was probably waited. Ie when they begin to feel comfortable, they also want to step up the ladder some.

But he seems to overdo it... Not contend to be an equal among equals, but wants to be the master cat...
A problem very common with dogs, but luckily not so pronounced with cats.

How is it, do you use Feliway diffuser? This time, it is not he who shall have this Feliway in first hand, but your residents....

Second, I think you must begin to work with his unwished dominancy. Easiest by establishing YOUR being the alpha in the house.
You can look at some dog site or dog book for ideas, because - this problem isnt very common with cats... although it does happen now and then

We ourselves curbed our friendly studs and residents, simply by forbidding them to walk on the kitchen table. If a NO wasnt not enough, we hissing vigorously and even pushing them down with the arm... Our boys were always friendly and usually well behaving, so this was more than enough.
He will probly need more...

But I think that is the way. You establish firmly your Alpha position. When it is done, you can easily be the police, him accepting this.

During this time, the Feliway diffuser. In first hand, where your residents are, but not wrong he also has some...

Such are my thoughts as now.


(Lesson for me as advisor? If they toms arent verry friendly and cat sociale, dont let them out and meet residents before at least 2 weeks after neutering. If they are dominant - no one day less than 4 weeks, prob longer)

Good luck!


ps. Another hypothesis may be, he living in essence a solitary cat, being a tom, isnt good at the social connections with cats. He cant the rules of normal behaviour. This is entirely possible. But I think my recipe will work anyway - you being his educator. A mom usually is in the cat world.
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post #35 of 39
6/12/11 at 2:36pm
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Thank you for the advice. I will try. I will get some feliway. It seems to come from his wanting my attention and being starved for love more than dominance. He has not raised a paw to any of my kitties....he's even passive when they swat him in the head He has been without love his whole life and craves it. The humane society person I talk to says if he grabbed my leg it means he knew I was going to close the door and leave and he didnt want me to go and he was stimulated so he grabbed my ankle. He did it without claws

I do need to flex my dominance a little and be firm to reinforce good behaviors and curb bad ones....I think once Oreo has gotten enough attention/love from me he will start to relax and loosen his grip on me a little He loves to play and hopefully his loud short bursts of "purr meow"..... don't know how else to describe it.....will subside because it startles me and my other babies sometimes

I just need to not overreact to things and know this is the progression and be calm and have patience.....thank you all SO much for your help and guidance.
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post #36 of 39
6/12/11 at 2:41pm
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Re: You have received a Gift from otto
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Originally Posted by otto
The User otto has just sent you a Gift of medalofhonor.

Reason: For rescuing Oreo


Thank you SO much Otto. It is very rewarding. I think my cats deserve the medal more than I. Oreo especially for surviving out there for so long.
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post #37 of 39
6/12/11 at 2:45pm
Oh dear, he is definitely taking charge of the household and it must be very upsetting to the other cats and you as well. It definitely is not fair to your other cats. It is hard to say whether Oreo will be able to adjust to your home and sharing you with other cats. We had a black/white tomcat at a horse barn where I worked and I got him neutered/shots. My girlfriend loved him and named him Charley. Well, she took Charley home (she has two other cats) and kept him in a room for a whole month with little interaction with the other cats until after that time. Charley was very demanding of my friend's time, and did the same thing Oreo is doing, chasing the other cats away from her. She tried for a couple of months but things just went from bad to worse and her own two cats were not the same anymore. So, she brought him back to the barn and there was another older lady who had NO other cats and decided to try Charley. That was two years ago, and he couldn't be happier with his new mommy all to himself. Some cats just need to be the only cat. Not saying Oreo is this way, but it is possible. It might just take more time, but that is only if you are willing and it takes alot of patience on your part. Sometimes the adjustment could take many months before things calm down and order is set in the home. Oreo has not had the greatest life before you and probably is in heaven and just wants you all to himself. In time he could learn to relax and accept the other cats. For right now, if you are petting one of your other cats and he starts his bulleying behavior, pick him up and put him in his room until you are done giving your resident cats their attention. It is extra work, but when we bring in another adult cat into our home with an already established "clowder", there is bound to be some problems/issues to overcome. Usually in time things do work themselves out and a peaceful order just comes about naturally. Much luck and I am sorry you are going through this as I can tell you really like Oreo
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post #38 of 39
6/12/11 at 2:46pm
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Oreo and Frank relaxing and "Chillin out"


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post #39 of 39
6/12/11 at 2:53pm
Well, that's look pretty darn good to me and you say he does take being batted by your resident cats too. I really have a good feeling about this situation, he just NEEDS more time. He is still adjusting and figuring out the rules/regulations in the home and just needs you to tell him. He really does love you lots. I am praying that this works itself out
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