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Hello everyone, long-time viewer, first-time poster. I'm hoping to get some advice with regard to my new cat, Kensi.

I adopted Kensi from a shelter just after New Year's, and at the time she was about five months old. She is a black DSH, and was spayed immediately before I brought her home.

In late October when she arrived at the shelter she had a URI and was prescribed Doxycycline for two weeks; about a week later they started her on another 10-day dose. I am assuming that her condition didn't improve, because in early December she was given Clavamox for 10 days. When I visited the shelter she seemed fine, and I was told about the URI, but the shelter said that the problem had cleared up.

At any rate, immediately after I brought her home I noticed that while she was exploring my new apartment (and smelling everything she could reach) I could actually hear her sniffing. It sounded a little like her nose was congested, so I kept an eye on her. That night I heard her sneeze, and yellow snot went flying. I had an appointment with my vet for a general wellness exam scheduled for five days later, and each day until then she continued the cycle; she would be fine, then suddenly she sounded congested, she would sneeze, and then would appear to be fine again.

I brought her to my vet for the checkup and other than the sneezing/mucus she was given a clean bill of health. Because she was pretty young and had already gotten quite a lot of antibiotics my vet told me to keep an eye on her for a while and bring her back in if things got any worse.

Over the next seven or eight weeks she started to sneeze less and less often, lessening to perhaps every 36 hours at first, then about every other day. The mucus continued, but it changed in a couple of different ways: the color became paler (resembling what I would say is normal human "snot", like when you need to blow your nose), and the mucus started to become dryer, in that when she sneezed a long, dried "booger" (for lack of a better word) would go flying. I also started to notice that after she sneezed and there was mucus residue on her nose it was always inside the left nostril.

At any rate, about a month ago I suddenly realized that the sneezing had stopped completely at some point. I have only heard her sneeze once over the last four to six weeks, and there was no nasal discharge. The disappearance of the problem roughly coincided with when the weather here in the Chicago area started to change, with temperatures at night staying above freezing and humidity levels starting to rise. At that point I decided to plan on buying a humidifier for next winter in case the air in my apartment was too dry over the colder months; I figure it can't hurt either Kensi or myself.

So anyway, all was great for about a month. Then one day a week or so ago I was sitting on the couch and Kensi joined me for a nap. I looked at her and her left eye was watering, with some of the tears starting to run out of the corner of her eye down the side of her nose. At the time I thought perhaps she had scratched her eye, or gotten some fur in there, so I didn't really worry about it that much. I kept an eye on it (no pun intended) and the next day all seemed fine.

Later that evening, I noticed her eye watering again. It seemed to last a little longer than the previous day, but she wasn't pawing at it at all and wasn't blinking excessively. The fluid was also perfectly clear, so it appeared to simply be tears.

Anyway, the problem seemed to get a little worse each day until the point a few days ago where her eye was watering almost nonstop. I called my local cat clinic and was able to get her in to be seen that afternoon. The vet put dye in her eyes and used a black light to see if there were any scratches or abnormalities, and found nothing. The only thing that was somewhat unusual was that the dye in her left eye did not seem to be flowing freely through her tear ducts like the right eye; in her right nostril you could see the dye that had flowed into her nose, but there was very little dye in her left nostril.

The vet thought that perhaps her tear duct was blocked, or that it didn't develop at the right angle, preventing the tears from leaving her eye. I questioned the latter explanation, since the problem just recently appeared, but he said it could still be a possibility. At any rate, he prescribed Terramycin twice a day for 12 days, and I have been applying a small amount to the corner of her eye where the tear duct is as per my vet's instructions. Including the first application at the vet's office, I have been applying it in the morning and at night since Wednesday (it is now Saturday).

My vet said that I should notice an improvement within two to three days. As of today it appears that her eye is watering a little less often, but when it does water it still waters quite a bit.

Now to my point: has anyone else experienced anything similar? I'm trying to get a handle on this. I know one possibility is that the left side of her face hasn't developed normally, although from the outside it looks symmetrical. I also considered feline herpes, but she was vaccinated while at the shelter and the fact that the sneezing mucus--and now the eye--have both occurred only on the left side of her face seems odd.

Sorry for the extremely long post, but I'm looking forward to hearing your responses. Thanks in advance.
 

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The first thing that jumps to mind is a herpes infection, very common and often noticed first in the eyes. I'm sure your vet considered that, but a supplement of lysine might be a good idea.
 

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Welcome to TCS
I second what MrBlanche just said. I know on this site we are constantly recommending the L-Lysine. But, it really does work and I have my cats on a maintenance dose all the time because I volunteer at a shelter and I worry about bringing germs home. You can also get L-Lysine at any health/vitamin store but if it is a tablet then you have to grind it up.

Anyway, alot of us order L-Lysine powder from amazon. It is called NOW and we get the powdered form. To start I would dose your cat 500mg. which is equivalent to 1/4 tsp. for two weeks since this has been an on-going prob. for a few months. Then you can go to 250mg. 1/8 tsp. once daily. See if this helps Kensi and I bet it will. Alot of the herpes viruses do cause eye drainage that is clear.
Hope Kensi feels better soon, and I love that name
 
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Thanks for the advice guys. I'm expecting my vet to call me on Monday to check in on Kensi's progress and I will mention it to him. I'm curious to see what he says.

If I go ahead with the L-Lysine I'll probably go with the powdered form, I'll be able to mix it in with her canned food.

Also, glad you like the name. I didn't choose it--someone at the shelter did--but after I got home with her I looked it up online to see if it had any meaning. Turns out that Kensi is a Scottish name, meaning "light skinned".





I'll keep checking the thread for new responses, but thank you both for the info.
 

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Welcome to TCS and bless you for adopting Kensi! She's so fortunate to have you to love and care for her!! She's gorgeous, too!

I have nothing new to add except to third the herpes probability. There's a test that can be done by IDEXX labs that's very accurate in diagnosing herpes. She may also be dealing with a secondary infection with the discolored snot. Sneezing with clear discharge is okay. Sneezing with any type of colored discharge (yellow, green, or yellowish-green) is not and warrants a trip to the vet, especially if it's thick and sticking to whiskers or anything else. I call it projectile sneezing.


One other thing to consider is changing her diet to a grain-free diet, especially if you think she does have herpes. The grain-free will help contain the herpes virus and keep it from replicating. It won't make the herpes go away or cure it, but it will help cut down on the flare ups of it.

If you think airborne allergens trigger the flare ups, then you can give your kitty an antihistamine, but you should talk to your vet about that. Something else I give my herpes kitty to help decrease the sneezes is Evening Primrose Oil, just 1/8 t a day. That really helps clear up those lingering little sneezes for her.
 
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Originally Posted by stephanietx

One other thing to consider is changing her diet to a grain-free diet, especially if you think she does have herpes. The grain-free will help contain the herpes virus and keep it from replicating. It won't make the herpes go away or cure it, but it will help cut down on the flare ups of it.
Thanks Stephanie, Kensi's been on a totally grain-free diet since January. After my last cat died of acute kidney failure at six years old (and after eating Iams dry for all of her abbreviated life) I did quite a bit of research on cat food on this site and others.

My vet just called to check in on Kensi's progress with the Terramycin ointment (the watering has decreased, though not totally) and I asked him about L-Lysine supplements. He said to go ahead and try it, and that some of his clients do see improvement in Herpes symptoms after being on it for a few weeks. He also said that sometimes cats with the Herpes virus will have symptoms diminish substantially when they reach a year old or so.

He recommended giving Kensi 1,000mg a day to start, and that it should start working in about three weeks; at that point I can start giving her a lower maintenance amount. Then at her first birthday (early July) I should discontinue the Lysine and see if she still has symptoms. Additionally, he said that if the symptoms subside before the initial three weeks of 1,000mg a day are completed that I should stop giving it to her at that point.

1,000mg a day seemed like a lot to me, after reading the replies to this thread, but he was adamant at the end of the call that 500mg wouldn't be enough. I'm curious as to what you all think. He also said that there was some new research coming out that Lysine was not good for cats, but that he had never seen a cat with problems caused by supplementing it into their diets so he wasn't sure about their validity. Has anyone read anything about studies such as these?
 

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Originally Posted by CatMan74

Thanks Stephanie, Kensi's been on a totally grain-free diet since January. After my last cat died of acute kidney failure at six years old (and after eating Iams dry for all of her abbreviated life) I did quite a bit of research on cat food on this site and others.

My vet just called to check in on Kensi's progress with the Terramycin ointment (the watering has decreased, though not totally) and I asked him about L-Lysine supplements. He said to go ahead and try it, and that some of his clients do see improvement in Herpes symptoms after being on it for a few weeks. He also said that sometimes cats with the Herpes virus will have symptoms diminish substantially when they reach a year old or so.

He recommended giving Kensi 1,000mg a day to start, and that it should start working in about three weeks; at that point I can start giving her a lower maintenance amount. Then at her first birthday (early July) I should discontinue the Lysine and see if she still has symptoms. Additionally, he said that if the symptoms subside before the initial three weeks of 1,000mg a day are completed that I should stop giving it to her at that point.

1,000mg a day seemed like a lot to me, after reading the replies to this thread, but he was adamant at the end of the call that 500mg wouldn't be enough. I'm curious as to what you all think. He also said that there was some new research coming out that Lysine was not good for cats, but that he had never seen a cat with problems caused by supplementing it into their diets so he wasn't sure about their validity. Has anyone read anything about studies such as these?
Oh no, I have not heard any reports about Lysine being detrimental to cats!! I use it all the time and it works so well with my two Herpes kitties. I have never given 1000 mg. though. The most I give is 500mg per day. I think at 1000mg. it might cause gastric probs. and that is the last thing I need with Pipsqueak. I will be checking this thread to see if anyone has anything to add about Lysine and any negative effects on cats.

Hope Kensi is doing much better
 

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April Joy had the same problem when she was a kitten. The Clavamox helped temporarily but the condition would flare up again. I agree with everyone who suggests L-Lysine. It works (it takes a few weeks). I gave her 500 mg twice a day.

Stress also makes it worse, so giving her a quiet atmowsphere, lots of love and lots of playtime will help, too. Lots of vibes for beautiful Miss Kensi!
 
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Originally Posted by ConsumerKitty

April Joy had the same problem when she was a kitten. The Clavamox helped temporarily but the condition would flare up again. I agree with everyone who suggests L-Lysine. It works (it takes a few weeks). I gave her 500 mg twice a day.

Stress also makes it worse, so giving her a quiet atmowsphere, lots of love and lots of playtime will help, too. Lots of vibes for beautiful Miss Kensi!
Thanks, good to know that someone had luck with giving 1,000mg per day. I just ordered some NOW Lysine powder from Amazon and should have it in a few days. Hopefully it will clear things up with Kensi; if it doesn't work I have no idea what the heck is wrong with her.

My vet also mentioned that stress can bring about Herpes symptoms, and that in their first year things as simple as major weight gain can be stressful (Kensi has more than doubled her weight in the last three and a half months). She doesn't appear to be stressed otherwise, I take pretty good care of her.


I'll try to remember to post an update down the road. Thanks everyone.
 

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My six month kitten, Cookie< has Herpes and has had a persistant eye infection plus an inflamed eye. I too give her a pump L-Lysene which is 1ml twice a day. I also give her some antibiotic eye drops three times a day which I also got from the vet. The eye had a greenish yellow greasy discharge that seems to come and go. Lately, it has not been tha noticable. I was informed that the Herpes is responsible for the redness of the edges of the eye and the bacteria infection is responsible for the discharge. Cookie has been squinting and the eye is open partially.
 
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