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post #31 of 46
Thinking of you and sending many vibes that way
Chumley
post #32 of 46
Hope everything goes smoothly for Chumley today
post #33 of 46
Thread Starter 
He did GREAT! I'm SURE all the vibes helped!

Dental: Took about 15 minutes. Not much plaque build-up, and his teeth are in GREAT shape! He was a "total sweetheart." He didn't complain, struggle, or seem particularly stressed in any way. She saw the ear tip, but assumed he was a stray that was rescued, not a feral kitty. Never would have guessed, he handled so well!

Vet check-up: I have to update his health journal, but he gained an ounce over the month ( I'm not doing something right LOL) - and upping his herbs was what he needed, because his pulses are "great" and his tongue is no longer swollen at all. He looks, sounds, and feels FABULOUS, and she doesn't want to change a thing. He did have some wax build-up in his ears - but it isn't yeast or fungal, so we just have to clean his ears occassionally (same with Flowerbelle). He got his shot of convenia for his gingivitis.

We're heading back in two months for a "look see," and she wants to do the retest of the Western Blot in four months. (He tested transient on the first one).

P.S. The beautiful thing about this is that it cost less than a regular dental. This was $200, and the minimum we've paid for Spook with no extractions was $254. We are SO going with this non-anesthesia dental route. Spook and Chum will need to go every six months - and the rest will just go as needed. But not worrying about the anesthesia, I must say, was GREAT. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
post #34 of 46
I'm glad that it all went so smoothly and Chumley is in good shape! Oh, if he needs his ears cleaned out, I'll send Genever over. She's cleaned out Dot's ears really well since we got her! She had a lot of gunk in them when we adopted her, luckily tested negative for mites or yeast or anything, just gunk. And Genever really cleaned her out. So well that at Dot's last vet appt. when I mentioned the ears, she said we could clean them once in a while, or (laughing a bit) just let Genever keep up with it.

Our vet does the no-anesthesia dental stuff too, though I've yet to have ours go through it. Their teeth are good so far, so it hasn't been recommended yet. The non-anesthesia way is the norm for the office, but I guess not all animals are candidates for it so they do still put some under. I know when I brought Mister in to get scanned for a chip and then checked out, they said if I kept him, he'd need a dental, and the way he was yelling and carrying on , they would probably use anesthesia for him. But it's the exception rather than the rule, which seems pretty cool to me.
post #35 of 46
Super, Super NEWS!!!!! To tell you the truth, I was a bit worried about Chum going through this but now after hearing how great he was, I would consider it as well. I guess Chum was my "guinea pig" But not in a bad way, you know?! Just that I wasn't sure a cat would do so well, especially a previous feral boy, but he proved that theory wrong, GO CHUM!!! Give him a BIG kiss from me, just cause I am so proud of him. What a champ!!!! And it sounds like along with the teeth, his health is in great shape, ALL thanks to you and Gary. Lots of to you both and I bet you are glad this is over, but even more, that it went so darn well!!!!!!!!!!!!
post #36 of 46
I'm so glad things went smoothly and Chumley did great

I'm always floored at the cost everywhere else. Here to have a cleaning done with anesthesia it cost $98. I'm guessing it would be dirt cheap without the drugs.
post #37 of 46
I'm glad everything went well for Chumley
post #38 of 46
Chum is my kitty hero!
Hugs for you momma!
post #39 of 46
Thread Starter 
I did research on non-anesthetic dentals when Chum's holistic vet recommended it last year, when I started this thread. I saw some of the negatives, but my vet's confidence in the process - and our knowledge of how worried WE get about the anesthesia - made me feel this was a good alternative.

IT IS NOT.

THIS year, 2012, I am updated this old thread to say....

I DO NOT RECOMMEND NON-ANESTHETIC DENTALS TO ANYONE. Unless you KNOW it's just a follow-up cleaning, something done intermittently between REGULAR dentals with anesthesia.

We scheduled Chum (and Spooky) for regular dentals today. The vet just called. Chumley had to have three teeth extracted. He had lesions where the tooth had been eaten away up under the gum. Yes - a PAINFUL condition. bawling.gifbawling.gifbawling.gif THIS COULD HAVE BEEN TREATED LAST YEAR. And Chumley would not have had to suffer for a year. angryfire.gifcrying.gifcrying.gif

The good news was there was only very minor gingivitis - this, at the sites of the teeth with problems. He had a shot of convenia last year to treat his gingivitis then. I know some cats have very bad reactions to convenia. But that was the 2nd time he'd had an injection, so apparently he's not a kitty that has a problem with it. (KNOCK WOOD! cross.gif1087.gif ). He is going to receive one today. He was given rimadal (sp?) - a 72-hour pain killer. Hopefully he won't need another shot, but if he does, we'll take him back. hearthrob.gifrub.gif

Chumley, we are SO SO SO SO SO sorry, sweet baby boy! bawling.gif

Oh - FYI, Carolina found this at DVM newsmagazine: "The perils of anesthesia-free dentistry in pets" http://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/dvm/Medicine/The-perils-of-anesthesia-free-dentistry/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/742257
Edited by LDG - 4/2/12 at 1:32pm
post #40 of 46

Good grief!  If nothing else I would have thought the vet was in great peril!  Surely the cat has to be sedated for dentals without anasthetic?

post #41 of 46
Thread Starter 
No, Chum was sedated - under anesthesia today. The teeth were not extracted while he was awake or aware, and he did not feel pain during this procedure today. This was a regular dental. He has been given a pain killer that lasts 72 hours (rimadal), and if he needs another shot, he'll get it (but hopefully he won't need it).

No, I am KICKING MYSELF because he had his first dental after being rescued last year. THAT was a "non-anesthetic dental." This was supposedly a great alternative to the stress on his system (FIV+) from being put under anesthesia. Non-anesthetic dentals are for a check-up and cleaning. If further work needs to be done, as determined by the check-up, then a regular dental would need to be scheduled.

But I am kicking myself because his holistic vet recommended the non-anesthetic dental. I was aware of the risks - the MAIN complaint is that they do not find problems located up under the gum. She assured me that was not the case.

And she was WRONG.

Today's REGULAR dental found lesions on three teeth up under the gum - so bad the teeth needed to be pulled. His non-anesthetic dental was just 10 months ago. He has been in UN-NECESSARY PAIN for 10 MONTHS because we opted for the non-anesthetic dental last year, when I started this thread. bawling.gif

Well, the complaints about non-anesthetic dentals are correct. They do not necessarily catch problems up under the gum. And poor Chum paid for this choice.

So I end this thread with a warning this year: do NOT opt for a non-anesthetic dental if your vet's practice offers them!
post #42 of 46
Oh hun, he is now all fixed up and those disease teeth are no longer causing him pain...... hugs.gifhugs.gifhugs.gifhugs.gifhugs.gifhugs.gifhugs.gifhugs.gif
vibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif For a quick recovery for Chum Chum now, I am sure he will be all better in no time cross.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif
post #43 of 46
AWWW sweetie... hugs.gif I know you must feel bad, but how were you to know last year. It is alright alright.gif GOSH - how many other cat's are there out there that get non-anesthetic dentals that are having problems like that too dontknow.gif At least those teeth are GONE!!!! AND he will be feeling SO much better now. Chumley will be just fine, better than ever !!!!! clap.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gif Thank's to you bringing him in for that regular dental biggrin.gifagree.gif Rimadyl... yep - wilbur has had that from time to time. Very safe, the Rimadyl. Give both Spooky and Chumley a loving scritch from me rub.gifrub.gifheartpump.gifvibes.gifvibes.gifvibes.gif
post #44 of 46

Okay, I don't know why I read this because I just knew my blood pressure would go through the roof!  I'm getting a ladder so I can get down.

 

Laurie - don't kick yourselves too hard - we all seem to be in a constant learning curve - but, because of others willing to share on this website we can learn from the experience they've had and be just a little ahead of the curve. So, thanks for posting the warning.  :)

 

post #45 of 46
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Originally Posted by GloriaJH View Post


Laurie - don't kick yourselves too hard - we all seem to be in a constant learning curve - but, because of others willing to share on this website we can learn from the experience they've had and be just a little ahead of the curve. So, thanks for posting the warning.  :)

 


Exactly so!  alright.gif

 

post #46 of 46
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Originally Posted by mrsgreenjeens View Post



Exactly so!  alright.gif

The good news is that Chum is doing great today. smile.gif He was so loopy and out of it last night, the poor boy didn't know what to do when we first came home. I carried him into the bedroom and lay down with him. I couldn't believe it - he curled up with me and went to sleep! I didn't give him dinner, but I did give him 1/2 a meal at the late night meal. He kept that down. And then he came back into the bedroom, and slept on my pillow the entire night. heartpump.gif He was good to go this morning. biggrin.gif

cross.gif there are no complications!
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