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post #1 of 18
4/23/11 at 4:39am
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My female cat is around 1 year 2 months old. her body weight is around 2 Kg. Till now she has come in heat for 3 times. Can my cat successfully deliver in this condition.

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post #2 of 18
4/23/11 at 5:34am
Is she pregnant? If she is, how far along? If she's not about to deliver soon, I'd get her spayed (unless she is a breeding quality queen and part of a real breeding program).
She sounds very small, is she too thin or just small cat in general? (For example my British Longhair female weighs 4kg and is 1 year 8months old). If she is thin, she is not in condition to have kittens without seriously dangering her life.
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post #3 of 18
4/23/11 at 5:52am
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No she is not pregnant. I have plan to breed her. I got a male cat. She is not thin she is just small. May be her breed is small dont know actually. Is her age correct for pregnancy?
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post #4 of 18
4/23/11 at 6:09am
Please have your kitty spayed. Pregnancy is a great risk and can have all sorts of complications. And there are certainly already more than enough kittens in the world.

Just have her spayed and enjoy her for who she is. And get the male neutered too.
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post #5 of 18
4/23/11 at 6:22am
As others have said, please get your cat spayed. There are too many stray cats in this world to just randomly allow cats to breed.

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2. Please make sure to spay and neuter your cats. Unless you are a professional breeder and your cat is part of a professional breeding program, please educate yourself to the importance of spaying and neutering by the time your cat is 4-6 months old. If you take care of a feral colony, please make sure to do so responsibly by practicing TNR (Trap, Neuter, Release) protocols within the colony. By spaying and neutering, you enhance a cat's quality of life and improve their longterm health. You are also proving your love for cats because in acting as a responsible pet owner/caregiver you are minimizing the problem of cat overpopulation.
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post #6 of 18
4/23/11 at 6:28am
skmdmasud - I remember all the trouble you went through to get your kitten. Since most of the people on here may not remember this is a purebred kitten and automatically assume you mean a non-breed, you may have gotten better answers asking in the breeder section.

Though I agree, she does sound rather small and the past pictures (though she was younger, then) of her she seemed to be so, too.
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post #7 of 18
4/23/11 at 7:49am
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skmdmasud - I remember all the trouble you went through to get your kitten. Since most of the people on here may not remember this is a purebred kitten and automatically assume you mean a non-breed, you may have gotten better answers asking in the breeder section.

Though I agree, she does sound rather small and the past pictures (though she was younger, then) of her she seemed to be so, too.
I did a search and the cat is not a purebred (the lilac "Persian"). If it would be, it wouldn't look like she does or be so small unless she's underweight or a runt. Brits and Persians are about the same size, so his female should be almost double in weight or at least 1+ kg heavier.
If the OP is planning on mating this female with his sick 5kg domestic longhair male and says it's not possible to take even the simplest health tests (blood tests for FeLV&FIV), I cannot encourage this.

I'm fairly sure he will breed them anyway, so all I can say is that the age is fine, but the size really bothers me and I think it would be dangerous for the female to have a litter at this stage.
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post #8 of 18
4/24/11 at 9:28pm
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Hi
i did a very accurate measurement and found out my female is exactly 6 pounds. She is a red shell cameo look alike

(SHELL CAMEO (red chinchilla) undercoat white, the coat on the back, flanks, head and tail to be lightly tipped with red. Face and legs may be lightly shaded with tipping. Frill, ear tufts, stomach and chest, white. Nose leather, rim of eyes and paw pads rose pink. Eye color, brilliant copper.) this description matched 90% with my fifi.

bye.
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post #9 of 18
4/25/11 at 2:26am
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Originally Posted by skmdmasud View Post
Hi
i did a very accurate measurement and found out my female is exactly 6 pounds. She is a red shell cameo look alike

(SHELL CAMEO (red chinchilla) undercoat white, the coat on the back, flanks, head and tail to be lightly tipped with red. Face and legs may be lightly shaded with tipping. Frill, ear tufts, stomach and chest, white. Nose leather, rim of eyes and paw pads rose pink. Eye color, brilliant copper.) this description matched 90% with my fifi.

bye.
I do know what a shell cameo is, I am a silver addict (and breeder) after all as you can probably see from my kitty pictures.
I only found the pics you had posted of a lilac longhaired cat called Cosmos/Fifi. Didn't find any chinchilla pics, I must have missed them.

6 pounds (2,7kg?) sounds a lot better than 2kg but she is very small.
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post #10 of 18
4/25/11 at 2:41am
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I only found the pics you had posted of a lilac long haired cat called Cosmos/Fifi. Didn't find any chinchilla pics, I must have missed them.
you did not miss the picture, i have some other picture where its a bit more visible.

undercoat white -> not fully white its much lighter
coat on the back, flanks, head and tail to be lightly tipped with red -> true inner coat is close to white 1/4 of a the fur is red.
Face and legs may be lightly shaded with tipping.
Frill, ear tufts, stomach and chest, white. -> not fully white its much lighter
Nose leather, rim of eyes and paw pads rose pink. -> true
Eye color, brilliant copper. -> true.

At first i thought the inner white was due to color burn on the outside.
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post #11 of 18
4/25/11 at 3:03am
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Originally Posted by skmdmasud View Post
you did not miss the picture, i have some other picture where its a bit more visible.

undercoat white -> not fully white its much lighter
coat on the back, flanks, head and tail to be lightly tipped with red -> true inner coat is close to white 1/4 of a the fur is red.
Face and legs may be lightly shaded with tipping.
Frill, ear tufts, stomach and chest, white. -> not fully white its much lighter
Nose leather, rim of eyes and paw pads rose pink. -> true
Eye color, brilliant copper. -> true.

At first i thought the inner white was due to color burn on the outside.
Oh, okay. But then I must correct you that the cat is not a chinchilla/shell/any kind of silver. If she is the same cat as in the kitten pics I found (like this), she is a solid lilac cat. You will notice this if you breed her (if you are familiar with color genetics?). Not that you probably are trying to breed for certain colors but it does help to know what will come out if you mix different colors, helps to determine the sex of the kittens for example. To me she looks to be like this color: pic
*edit* I looked at the other pics too, she could be cream too but the color seems a bit dark for it. What kind of shampoo do you wash her with and how often?
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post #12 of 18
4/25/11 at 3:09am
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Hello NorthernGlow
ok.. so what i dont understand is how come she has darker shade on the outside of her fur. The hair/fur (1 single long hair) i can see see clearly the light with and dark tip strand.

Thanks and Regards.
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post #13 of 18
4/25/11 at 3:17am
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Hello NorthernGlow
ok.. so what i dont understand is how come she has darker shade on the outside of her fur. The hair/fur (1 single long hair) i can see see clearly the light with and dark tip strand.

Thanks and Regards.
It is very possible to have that happen if the cat in question isn't from a line that has been bred for a certain color thus making the color strong and perfect. With silver (like chinchilla/shell) the undercoat is clearly pure white, not a hint of any other shade in it. Specially when talking about chinchilla colors the amount of "white" is so large that it should be clearly visible in pictures. If you click the picture of the green eyed kitty next to my name, you'll see a shaded silver cat which is a darker version of a chinchilla, having a bit more color in the tips of the hairs, but as you may see, the "white" is very obvious in him, even if he is darker than a chinchilla.
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post #14 of 18
4/25/11 at 3:31am
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Specially when talking about chinchilla colors the amount of "white" is so large that it should be clearly visible in pictures.
I see it has to be fully white. True she dosent have any milk white any where in her fur. Thanks that explains few things.

What happens if i breed her with a fully white DLH, will the kittens go towards a chinchilla or will they have mixed fur color like white in the head and lilac in the tail etc.
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post #15 of 18
4/25/11 at 3:37am
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Originally Posted by skmdmasud View Post
I see it has to be fully white. True she dosent have any milk white any where in her fur. Thanks that explains few things.

What happens if i breed her with a fully white DLH, will the kittens go towards a chinchilla or will they have mixed fur color like white in the head and lilac in the tail etc.
You will need a chinchilla cat to produce chinchilla offspring (in some cases shaded cats can produce chinchillas too). If you'd mate her with a white cat, you'd most likely get bi-colors (the mixed, having color blotches) and maybe some solid whites/other colors depending on what colors the cats are carrying. But you always need a silver parent to produce a silver kitten, the "white" in chinchillas is actually silver.
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post #16 of 18
4/25/11 at 3:45am
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Just wondering, Is chinchilla a wild cat breed or is it man made. I couldnt find any info in google.
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post #17 of 18
4/25/11 at 3:58am
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Funny thing the seller (mysterious guy from nowhere lol) showed a book to first owner(original purchaser) as reference to prove it was a chinchilla.lol.
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post #18 of 18
4/25/11 at 4:11am
Chinchilla is a color/pattern, not a breed. Not only Persians have chinchilla colors, some other breeds have it too. The color has been intentionally made by breeding lighter shaded silvers together until the result was pale enough to look and be called different than the bit darker shaded color pattern. The only difference between chinchilla and shaded is the amount of color in the tip of the hair, shaded has more color (and both have the silver "white" undercoat, or golden in some cases).
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