Have you done the Atkins diet?

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Also, I've been on atkins for I believe a little over two months. I wish I wrote down the day I started, but anyhow... I've lost a good 40 lbs myself. But also, I never really quit the induction phase. If I go over 20 grams of carbs, that's a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE day for me. I'm planning on losing an additional at least 20 lbs to get down to 185. I'm thinking of losing at least an additional 10 incase I gain some back. Where I am now is the most I want to weigh ever really 205. I've been much slimmer for most of my life, but college put it on, now that college is over, its time to take it back off!
 

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I did not know I was on a diet until quite recently when I was at the supermarket waiting at the checkout when I saw this magazine cover talking mentioning Prince Charles and his diet.

Apparently, I am on the "Des O'Connor diet" which is where a person eats only a meal a day. Basically I started eating a meal a day a few years back simply as a time saving measure. Once in a while I still eat two meals but generally I am a one meal a day person. It is quite good, as weight has not been my concern. I am the type who make a point NOT to buy any product with low fat, etc.
 

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I've never tried it, but have a friend who's a theatre nurse who has.

She used to go to the same weight watchers class with me but was finding it hard to shift the last few pounds so she went on the Atkins diet for a week.

She lost 5lb that week, but when she started back on the weight watchers programme put 4lb back on!.
 

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http://www.atkinsdietalert.org/

PLEASE LOOK AT THIS SITE. Atkins really is very unhealthy for you.

I couldn't help laughing at an article about low-carb dieters being, ahem, irregular, and how they were a new market for fiber supplements. Poor gullible folks, but still...

If you're really fond of meat, just check out several brands of faux meats. When I moved to the US from Korea, I thought I was in heaven, because I'd always loved the taste and texture of flesh, but couldn't eat it after I realized I shouldn't be eating sentient animals. Now I can be vegan and eat all the chicken, steak, burgers, bacon, etc that I want


So, good carbs and bad carbs! Good carbs are "complex" carbs, such as whole wheat and brown rice. Bad carbs are stuff like refined sugar and white flour. That's it in a nutshell ^^
 

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I follow a modified atkins diet plan for maintenance. (Modified becausae I'm big to begin with so I'm allowed more carbs than the average bear.
I'm healthy and no side effects.
Oh, I've been on this way of life/diet for 20 years.
I eat steak, chicken, pork chops, veal, ham and anydamthing else I want to and will continue to do so despite the continued protestations of a few in the world.
I refuse to eat Faux anything. If I were meant to graze my eyes would point to the side and not forward.
Just because someone says it's bad doesn't mean it is. Common sense and moderation in all things.



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Originally Posted by Weatherlight

http://www.atkinsdietalert.org/

PLEASE LOOK AT THIS SITE. Atkins really is very unhealthy for you.

I couldn't help laughing at an article about low-carb dieters being, ahem, irregular, and how they were a new market for fiber supplements. Poor gullible folks, but still...

If you're really fond of meat, just check out several brands of faux meats. When I moved to the US from Korea, I thought I was in heaven, because I'd always loved the taste and texture of flesh, but couldn't eat it after I realized I shouldn't be eating sentient animals. Now I can be vegan and eat all the chicken, steak, burgers, bacon, etc that I want


So, good carbs and bad carbs! Good carbs are "complex" carbs, such as whole wheat and brown rice. Bad carbs are stuff like refined sugar and white flour. That's it in a nutshell ^^
By the way that website is supported by the PCRM, Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, which is closely linked to PETA and that 95% of its members did not graduate from medical school. Furthermore, they support those spate of obesity lawsuits against McDonald and other fast food. They are also released a 'sue your doctor' advertisement for people who have been prescribed the Atkins diet.

Furthermore, the American Medical Association (AMA) have censured the PCRM for being neither responsible nor are they physicians. And they have campaign against organisations supporting research in AIDS and heart disease using animal research.

Of course there is nothing wrong with having a motive or agenda but to counter any perception of conflict of interest, there is always a need for 1) disclosure (which the PCRM does not do as it claims not to be an animal rights organisation) 2) Peer review of research materials, which the PCRM does not do too.

As a final point, there recently is some new research on the Atkins diet although (disclosure) it is funded by the Atkins foundation.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3722221.stm
 

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Well my husband is on that diet and lost so far 33 pounds in 2 or 3 month now . But he is eating normal on one day of the week to get more carb in . I personal think this diet is not healthy at all and also think that this diet caused my hubby to have a kiddney stone . Of course I can not proof it , but he did not had a stone before he start that diet . Then I also need to say that he almost did not had any carps at all and that was not good at all . So he over did it big time , at least that what I think . Now he has changed a little , due to the stone in the kiddney . The diet works for sure , but you have to be careful with it .
 

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Well my basic diet outline for the summer is 4400 calories total in 6 meals a day on a 40/40/20 Carb/Protein/Fat split. Oh and 100 grams pure dextrose with 30g protein directly after I work out. This is my muscle gaining diet though! My cutting diet will be devised around december
Just posting for fun, I love the entire world of nutrition and things.

Good Luck to all of you,

Brandon
 

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Hi-

Just wanted to add my 2 cents...

I tried Atkins a couple of years ago & found that just one small cookie would throw off the ketosis for 2-3 days. For me, a diet that can be set back 2 whole days by a single oreo just isn't do-able.

I'd like to recommend Dr. Phil's book, which I think is great. It really has helped me understand why I overeat, which makes it easier to fix, of course. There is also tons of good info informing you of what you must know to maximize your efforts.

My "diet" is simply 1200 or fewer cal at 3 separate meals + 30 min.of aerobic exercise : daily. One book I have says that this can burn 250 cal. each day. Not sure if that's true, but I can see a huge difference in the weight loss if I go wo/the excercise, but I am over 40.

Right now the 3 meals are whatever I want, even a 240 cal. package of M&M's. But I am gradually switching over to what Dr. Phil refers to as " high return" foods.

Sorry for such a long post - I hope it is helpful
 

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My cousin has been on it (Atkins diet) for a while, not sure how long (sorry), but he's lost a lot of weight. He looks so much healthier than the last time I saw him.
 

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Calorie restriction isn't healthy. You'd need to keep starving yourself for the rest of your life to avoid putting the pounds back on. Please, just don't do it.
 

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I agree Kiwideus. Having been on several variants of the Atkins maintenance diet for over 20 years with no health problems, the naysayers protestations fall on deaf ears. Common sense and all things in moderation.
 

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My sister swears by it. I can't do it...my willpower against carbs is weak. I simply cut my calorie intake to 5-700 a day and the weight keeps coming off. It's not the healthiest plan, but it works.
 

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I went on South Beach back in July, and I lost my first 10 pounds within 2 weeks. I went back to eating almost thing that I wanted. Right after Christmas, I went back on it and I lost another 20. Well, I eat a lot healthier and a lot less than what I use to eat...which is great...so I would recommend this and eating a balanced meal every 3-4 hours to maintain your insulin because Type 2 diabetes is a very high epidemic! I see a dietician and she taught me how to manage it and therefore, I have a much better lifestyle.
 

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Abby, it's not just temporarily unhealthy...the second you achieve an "ideal weight" and eat enough to keep yourself alive, the weight will come back. Your body goes into "starvation mode" when you restrict calories to below healthy levels and uses every calorie as efficiently as possible; this means that when your body's like that and you start eating better, each one of those calories is going to be squeezed for as much as your body can get out of it.

Are you going to keep eating 700 or less calories for the rest of your life?

Just eat a lot of complex carbs, don't worry about protein either way (2.5 - 8% of daily calories as protein is plenty for humans--excessive protein is wasted, excessive animal protein is most certainly harmful, and it's impossible to get too litlte unless you really are starving or you eat nothing but apples), keep the fats and refined carbs to a minimum, and exercise. You'll be fine.

As for eating often, that's really a plus. It's much healthier for you and helps you avoid eating excessively. "Grazing" on complex carbs is especially helpful for people with conditions like hypoglycemia.
 

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700 calories a day!?!?!? I dont know how you even survive on that.

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Originally Posted by Weatherlight

So, good carbs and bad carbs! Good carbs are "complex" carbs, such as whole wheat and brown rice. Bad carbs are stuff like refined sugar and white flour. That's it in a nutshell ^^
What makes them so good or so bad as far as how your body processes them and weight gain/loss is concerned?
 
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