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What Does A Government Shut-Down Mean?
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That is... a very good question. I'll be staying tuned to this thread as well!
The newspaper said it would impact driver's license renewals, road repair, and home loans. I'm not sure what else would happen. Last time they did it, when my dad was still in the Navy, he didn't get his paycheck (that week; he still was paid for all the work he did, but not until the next payday) because the payroll people weren't working. . .
Well I heard that people that did their income taxes might not get a refund check back from the government
. And also some tourist sites like Alcatraz in san fransisco might have to shut down.
Oh, yeah, they also said all the state parks would be closed. Including Rushmore, which is a huge tourist draw. Seems like a bad fiscal decision to me.
my friend, who works for the fire lab here said all national parks will be closed, all the rangerstations will shut down, if your trying to get an FHA loan you're out of luck. there's more but that's all i can remember right now
What it means is that all federal employees not deemed "essential" will be sent home until a certain blasted political party stops demanding more and more and more every time we think we have a deal.
So they'll keep the military functioning, and the federal prison system, and the air traffic controllers... everything that pertains to national security or public safety. But the national parks will shut down, passport-processing will cease, and even the IRS will stop working (but we'll still be expected to send our tax returns on time).
Contrary to common fears, Social Security checks will still go out (at least for a month or two). And all government paychecks not sent on time will be included as back pay once things start up again -- but that's small consolation for families living on the edge, who cannot afford a delay.
And lest you be concerned for the welfare of the Congress, fear not -- they get paid, in full and on time, no matter what havoc they wreak on our lives.
So they'll keep the military functioning, and the federal prison system, and the air traffic controllers... everything that pertains to national security or public safety. But the national parks will shut down, passport-processing will cease, and even the IRS will stop working (but we'll still be expected to send our tax returns on time).
Contrary to common fears, Social Security checks will still go out (at least for a month or two). And all government paychecks not sent on time will be included as back pay once things start up again -- but that's small consolation for families living on the edge, who cannot afford a delay.
And lest you be concerned for the welfare of the Congress, fear not -- they get paid, in full and on time, no matter what havoc they wreak on our lives.
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I don't even know what to say to all of that, exceptOriginally Posted by CarolPetunia
What it means is that all federal employees not deemed "essential" will be sent home until a certain blasted political party stops demanding more and more and more every time we think we have a deal.
So they'll keep the military functioning, and the federal prison system, and the air traffic controllers... everything that pertains to national security or public safety. But the national parks will shut down, passport-processing will cease, and even the IRS will stop working (but we'll still be expected to send our tax returns on time).
Contrary to common fears, Social Security checks will still go out (at least for a month or two). And all government paychecks not sent on time will be included as back pay once things start up again -- but that's small consolation for families living on the edge, who cannot afford a delay.
And lest you be concerned for the welfare of the Congress, fear not -- they get paid, in full and on time, no matter what havoc they wreak on our lives.
As if the country isn't already in enough bad shape..
Thanks for explaining all that, Carol.
The country continues to be run by elitist morons...and that applies to the whole stinking lot of politicians in D.C. on both sides of the aisle. I'm convinced there isn't a decent one in the bunch.
I just heard that for us where I work, if we are working on Federal projects and get a "stop work" order, we go home and use our vacation! I don't think it will affect me, because most of my projects are private industry, but I do have some Federal and others in the office are strictly Federal, so we'll see what happens.
i wish the Tea Party would quit trying to push their ideology on us and just get on with passing a budget! Worry about defunding planned parenthood later if that's what they're hell bent on doing. I really think people are going to regret voting these idiots into office in the last election.
i wish the Tea Party would quit trying to push their ideology on us and just get on with passing a budget! Worry about defunding planned parenthood later if that's what they're hell bent on doing. I really think people are going to regret voting these idiots into office in the last election.
Actually it is NOT a certain political party. It's everybody there. EVERYBODY!
Originally Posted by KittKatt
I apologize if I sound ignorant, but I really don't know.I've been hearing about it on the news, and I'm curious to know exactly what it entails because it sounds really serious.
Any input?
Well, they reached a last minute compromise, so we won't have to find out what it means.
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Do you know what the compromise is, Laurie? I heard bits & pieces about it last night on MSNBC, but not enough to know what the impact will be.Originally Posted by LDG
Well, they reached a last minute compromise, so we won't have to find out what it means.
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Cuts were conceded at… 38.5 billion, wasn't it? Planned Parenthood kept it's funding, thankfully. And I don't know what they did with the EPA.
I think I heard the EPA business was taken out of it too.
I say Tea Party because they are the ones holding out for Ideology (Planned Parenthood - which makes very little sense other than a gesture to make their base think they're doing something. It also has absolutely nothing to do with cutting costs because its so minute compared to stuff they could be targeting). The Democrats apparently did much more compromising than the Republicans. Not saying any of them are anything wonderful, but if I had to point a finger of blame, it would be toward the Republicans / new Tea Party members.
I am against Planned Parenthood providing abortions. I think that is a huge issue. I don't want my tax payer dollars going to that. Education and birth control yes...abortions..no.
I just wonder when people will take personal responsibility. You screw up...don't ask the government to fix it for you or to provide a cheap way out.
Sorry, my dime should not provide abortions.
Banking is another issue. Regulating how many overdraft fees and the amounts is ridiculous. If someone overdraws their account they should get a fee. For every single time.
I just wonder when people will take personal responsibility. You screw up...don't ask the government to fix it for you or to provide a cheap way out.
Sorry, my dime should not provide abortions.
Banking is another issue. Regulating how many overdraft fees and the amounts is ridiculous. If someone overdraws their account they should get a fee. For every single time.
Don't feel bad. I tuned into the news for the first time yesterday in about 3 weeks. I didn't even know there was a problem with the government in the USA shutting down. I watched CNN for about 1 hour yesterday evening when they were counting down at the 3 hour mark before "shut down".Originally Posted by KittKatt
I apologize if I sound ignorant, but I really don't know.I've been hearing about it on the news, and I'm curious to know exactly what it entails because it sounds really serious.
Any input?
I never did hear what the problem was behind this whole thing.
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Then don't pay for it. PP abortions are privately funded, not paid for by tax money - federal law already prohibits this.
What the Republican party was pushing for was not to stop tax payer money going to abortions (as this doesn't happen but in extreme cases), but to completely defund PP altogether - that means stopping all the services they provide, from providing birth control, STD screening, to cancer screening for women( The ~97% of everything else they do) merely because they also provide abortions.
(For those that don't know: Start with looking up Hyde Amendment and go from there)
